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skootermc
08-06-2012, 07:31 AM
GET READY FOR SOME GOOD READING.I HAVE GROWN TIRED OF THE LIES BEING PUT OUT ABOUT WSK'S STOMPONATO,MYSELF AND MUCH MORE!
by Ed Faron on Friday, August 3, 2012 at 10:43am ·
SIT BACK AND GET READY TO HEAR THE FACTS REGARDING WHO WROTE THE COMPLETE GAMEDOG WITH ME(THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE WHO BELEIVE I WAS MARRIED TO CHRISTY LYONS AND SHE IS THE CHRIS WHO DID SUCH A GREAT JOB PUTTING TOGETHER THIS BOOK)AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING MS.LYONS(AKA RED ROVER KENNELS,AKA OLD GLORY KENNELS)ACQUIRING WILDSIDE'S STOMPONATO INCLUDING PRICE,AGREEMENT GIVING WILDSIDE FREE BREEDING RIGHTS TILL HE DIED,AS WELL AS ED AND DONNIE'S FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO HELP MS.LYONS PURCHASE THE PROPERTY SHE HAS LIVED ON TO THIS DAY.MY WIFE CHRIS AND I WERE MARRIED 1N 1989.SHE BUILT WILDSIDE KENNELS WITH ME AND DID ALL THE LAYOUT WORK ETC ON THE COMPLETE GAMEDOG BOOK.WE WERE DIVORCED IN 1998 AND TILL THIS DAY I WILL ALWAYS CONSIDER HER ONE OF THE BEST HUMAN BEINGS I WAS BLESSED WITH KNOWING DURING MY ENTIRE LIFETIME.IN 1998 A FEW MONTHS AFTER OUR DIVORCE I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL; FROM A YOUNG LADY WHO SAID HER NAME WAS CHRISTY FROM VENTURA CALIFORNIA AND THAT SHE HAD MOVED TO N.C. AND WAS STAYING WITH HER DAD WHO LIVED ON LAKE NORMAN NORTH OF CHARLOTTE.AFTER TALKING AWHILE I RECALLED HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH HER DURING THE PAST COUPLE YEARS AND HER ORDERING A COPY OF THE COMPLETE GAMEDOG FOR HER AND HER BOYFRIEND.A FEW DAYS LATER SHE CAME OUT TO VISIT ME AND WE GOT ALONG WELL AND I HIRED HER TO HELP ME TAKE CARE OF MY YARD OF AROUND 50 DOGS.WITHIN A COUPLE WEEKS SHE INFORMED ME THAT THE SITUATION WITH HER DAD WAS NOT WORKING OUT AND I INVITED HER TO MOVE UP ON THE MOUNTAIN WITH ME AND MY DAUGHTER GINA.IT WAS REALLY COOL AND GINA AND HER BECAME AS CLOSE AS ANY SISTERS COULD BE UNTIL THE DAY SHE LEFT IN JAN 2007.THOUGH CHRISTY HAD A DEEP LOVE FOR THE DOGS HER KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE BREED WAS LIMITED TO READING THE COMPLETE GAMEDOG BOOK AND OWNING HER DOG HANK(WHO I LOVED ),AN OLD FAMILY RED NOSE DOG WHO WAS BRED DOWN FROM SOME GREAT DUAL REGISTERED ADBA/UKC STOCK LINEBRED ON MARTINS CAESAR.AFTER A FEW MONTHS ON THE MOUNTAIN I FOUND HER A PLACE TO LIVE THAT WOULD ALLOW HER TO KEEP A HALF DOZEN BULLDOGS AND WAS STILL ONLY A 20 MINUTE DRIVE (IN GOOD WEATHER)TO OUR PLACE ON THE MOUNTAIN.I PAID THE RENT AND SECURITY DEPOSIT AS A GIFT TO HER AND HAD CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING INSTALLED AT MY EXPENSE SO HER FIRST LITTER OF PUPS OFF OF WILDSIDE AND LYONS CH VARMIT(A GIFT FROM ME AND GINA) BRED TO WILDSIDE'S MORTICIAN WOULD NOT DIE OF HEAT STROKE.WE SET UP A COOL WHELPING BOX IN THE SPARE BEDROOM.A YEAR OR SO LATER I REFINANCED MY MORTGAGE TO TAKE OUT A $15,000 LOAN TO HAVE A MOBILE HOME WITH A 6 FT FENCED IN YARD SET UP WITH A PRIVATE ROAD ABOUT 100 YARDS FROM MY HOUSE FOR CHRISTY.DURING THE NEXT 7 YEARS I WAS PLAGUED WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS AND HAD AT LEAST 3 MAJOR SURGERIES WHICH LEFT CHRISTY WITH RUNNING WILDSIDE KENNELS FOR PERIODS OF TIME AS LONG AS 6 TO 9 MONTHS ON AT LEAST 2 OF THOSE OCCASIONS.WE WERE BLESSED WITH GOOD FRIENDS LIKE WALT AND BETTY PIERSON,ROBBY COLES,MIKE CRIBB AND HIS FAMILY,RONNIE AND DANA LANE,RUSTY AND DANA SHEETS,FRANKIE REAVIS AND TUESDAY MOORE ,DONNIE AND JASON FRIEND AND THE CASANOVA BOYS AS WELL AS SOME OTHERS THAT WOULD COME OVER AND HELP HER OUT WITH SOME OF THE PHYSICAL WORK AND DOING BREEDINGS.ABOUT 7 YEARS AGO WHEN I HAD A TOTAL KNEE REPLACEMENT ON MY LEFT KNEE A 15 YEAR OLD KID NAMED DON JUAN CASANOVA CAME DOWN TO RELEIVE HIS BROTHER JOHN PAUL(OSCAR)FROM YARD DUTY AND BABYSITTING A GRUMPY OLD MAN RECOVERING FROM SURGERY! AS TIME WENT ON I LET CHRISTY INFLUENCE ME MORE THAN I SHOULD HAVE.LOOKING BACK I BELEIVE I DID THIS MANY TIMES AS A COMBINATION OUT OF APPRECIATION FOR HER KEEPING THE YARD GOING WHEN I WAS LAID UP FROM SURGERIES AND OUT OF SURVIVAL BECAUSE IF I DID NOT AGREE WITH HER SHE WOULD BE MISERABLE AND UNHAPPY AND I REALLY DID NOT FEEL LIKE DEALING WITH THAT.I GREATLY REGRET MY ALLOWING HER TO CONVINCE ME THAT MANY GOOD PEOPLE WHO WERE FRIENDS LONG BEFORE SHE ARRIVED IN 1998 WERE REALLY JUST OUT TO GET FREE PUPS(OR A GOOD DEAL).SHE HAD A WAY OF STEREOTYPING PEOPLE LIKE SHE DID WITH MY LONGTIME FRIENDS MIKE AND JACK OF RIOT SQUAD KENNELS OF NEW YORK CITY AREA WHO I LOST AS FRIENDS AFTER CHRISTY GOT IN A HEATED DEBATE WITH MIKE OVER THE TOPIC OF BABESIA AND I GOT PULLED INTO IT AND PRETTY MUCH INSULTED MIKE WHILE DEFENDING CHRISTY'S POSITION.I REMEMBER WHEN A GOOD FRIEND WHO LIVED IN FLORIDA WOULD TAKE DOGS DOWN THERE TO BREED AND HOW SHE WENT ON AND ON HOW I MADE A BIG MISTAKE DUE TO THE WAY THEY TOOK CARE OF THEIR DOGS.I EVEN LET THEM TAKE MORT AND LIL NICKY BECAUSE OF THE CONFIDENCE I PERSONALLY HAD IN THEM.I FELT TRAPPED OUT OF LOYALTY TO HER AND THE FACT THAT SHE PRETTY MUCH HAD ME CONVINCED THAT I COULD NOT RUN THE YARD WITHOUT HER(WHICH ACTUALLY WAS NOT FAR FROM THE TRUTH DUE TO MY DETERIORATING PHYSICAL HEALTH) AND STRENGTHENED THIS POSITION BY CONSTANTLY CRITICISING TO ME THE GOOD FRIENDS LIKE WALT AND BETTY,RUSTY AND DANA,AND OTHERS WHO WERE HAPPY TO HELP ON THE YARD.WHEN DONNIE MOVED IN A FEW MONTHS AFTER HIS 16TH BIRTHDAY IT REALLY STARTED GETTING WORSE AS IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT SHE FELT THAT HER POSITION OF CONTROL WAS BEING THREATENED BY HIS PRESENCE.SHE WOULD CONSTANTLY CRITICIZE EVERYTHING HE DID ON THE YARD (BEHIND HIS BACK TO ME )AND REALLY STARTED MAKING MY LIFE HELL.ABOUT 6 MONTHS AFTER DONNIE MOVED IN HE TOLD ME THAT HE HAD JUST ABOUT HAD ENOUGH OF HAVING TO LISTEN TO CHRISTY AND I ARGUE AND THAT IF HE WANTED TO LISTEN TO STUFF LIKE THAT HE MIGHT AS WELL GO BACK TO ADRIAN MICH WHERE HIS FAMILY WAS!THE ONLY REASON I AM POSTING A LOT OF NEGATIVE STUFF IS THAT CHRISTY HAS BEEN TELLING PEOPLE HOW I USED HER AND OTHERS AND THEN KICKED THEM TO THE CURB WHEN I NO LONGER NEEDED THEM.ASK ROBBY COLES,PAUL HARDEN,OR ERIK HAGER WHO HAVE KNOWN ME A LOT LONGER THAN CHRISTY FOR THEIR OPINIONS ON THAT SUBJECT. AS TIME WENT ON IT GOT WORSE .SPRING OF 2006 I WAS CONTACTED BY AN OLD GIRLFRIEND FROM THE WEST COAST WHO I KNEW FROM 1985-1987.SHE INFORMED ME THAT SHE HAD JUST GOTTEN A DIVORCE AND TOLD ME THAT SHE WAS FINANCIALLY SET AND REALLY WAS INTERESTED IN REKINDLING OUR OLD ROMANCE.COINCIDENTLY A YOUNG MAN WHO HAD GOT A PUP FROM US A FEW MONTHS EARLIER WHEN HE VISITED US CONTACTED ME AND SAID HE WAS MOVING TO SOUTH CAROLINA,WAS IN THE PROCESS OF A DIVORCE,AND ASKED ME ABOUT CHRISTY.I GAVE HIM HER PHONE NUMBER AND OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS CHRISTY AND RON,AND STEFF AND MYSELF WERE INVOLVED IN RELATIONSHIPS.DONNIE AND I WERE REALLY HAPPY FOR CHRISTY AND I ENCOURAGED HER BECAUSE I FELT SHE REALLY DESERVED TO HAVE A LIFE OF HER OWN AWAY FROM WILDSIDE KENNELS.BOTH RELATIONSHIPS WERE MOVING FORWARD PRETTY QUICK AND STEFF EVEN GAVE RON ABOT $7000 IN DIAMONDS ANDC OTHER JEWELS SO HE COULD GET CHRISTY A NICE ENGAGEMENT RING MADE.A FEW WEEKS AFTER THAT CHRISTY CAME TO ME AND SHOWED ME PHOTOS OF A PEICE OF PROPERTY SHE AND RON HAD FOUND THAT SHE FELT WOULD MAKE A GREAT HOME FOR THEM AND A YARD OF DOGS.THEY NEEDED $47,000 FOR THE PLACE.I REALLY WANTED HER TO BE HAPPY AND WHEN I TOLD STEFF ABOUT CHRISTY FINDING A GREAT PLACE FOR HER,RON,AND THE DOGS SHE ASKED ME HOW I FELT.I TOLD HER I REALLY LOVED CHRISTY AS IF SHE WERE MY OWN DAUGHTER AND IN AN IDEAL WORLD I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE HER $ AS SORT OF A SEVERANCE PAY TO HELP HER REALIZE HER DREAM.SHE TOLD ME TO ASK CHRISTY HOW MUCH SHE NEEDED AND CHRISTY SAID RON COULD COME UP WITH 4 OR 5 THOUSAND.STEFF OFFERED TO GIVE CHRISTY $30,000 IN MY BEHALF AND DONNIE AND I TOLD HER WE WOULD HELP HER GET THE REST.WE HAD A LONGSTANDING AGREEMENT THAT IF I SOLD A DOG OR PUPPY FOR HER I WOULD GET 50% BECAUSE PEOPLE CALLED ME AND I COULD JUST AS EASILY SELL ONE OF MY OWN.(ALSO I PAID FOR ALL VACCINES,DOG FOOD ,WORMER,BEDDING,ETC.AS WELL AS THE MORTGAGE ON THE LAND.AND EVEN THOUGH CHRISTY WAS GOING TO PAY RENT ON THE TRAILER SHE LIVED IN OUT OF HER SALARY AND MONEY MADE ON DOGS I TOLD HER SHE DID NOT HAVE TO AFTER THE FIRST FEW MONTHS CUZ OF ALL THE WORK SHE DID WITH THE YARD)SO I SOLD SOME DOGS(PUPS,ETC)FOR CHRISTY AND DID NOT TAKE A DIME OUT OF IT AND SHE GOT $10,000 TOWARDS HER NEW PLACE.DONNIE SOLD ONE OF HIS FAVORITE DOGS NAMED DEMON FOR $2500 AND GAVE CHRISTY ALL THE MONEY.SO NOW SHE HAD $30,000+$10,000+2500=$42,500 OF WHAT SHE NEEDED FOR HER NEW PLACE.RON AND HER CAME UP WITH THE REST.GEE!I REALLY KICKED HER TO THE CURB!!ALL MY FELLOW DOGMEN THOUGHT ME AND DONNIE WERE NUTS FOR DOIN THIS.RON AND CHRISTY THANKED ME AND PROMISED ME THAT I WOULD CONTINUE TO HAVE COMPLETE STUD RIGHTS TO STOMPY(WSK'S STOMPONATO)AS CHRISTY HAD PROMISED ME AFTER I SOLD HER HIM FOR $1000 PLUS FREE LIFETIME STUD RIGHTS TO HIM FOR AS LONG AS HE LIVED.HE ALSO PROMISED THAT CHRISTY WOULD EVEN BRING STOMPY UP TO US OR ANY OTHER STUD DOG THEY OWNED THAT WE WANTED TO BREED TO FOR NO CHARGE.HE AND CHRISTY WERE OVERWHELMED WITH GRATITUDE OVER WHAT STEFF,DONNIE,AND I HAD DONE FOR THEM.CHRISTY PROMISED TO COME BACK EVERY 2 WEEKS FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS TO DO THE PAPERWORK ETC.BECAUSE THEIR WOULD BE NO TRANSITION PERIOD OF HER GOING OVER EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAD BEEN DOING AS FAR AS PAPERWORK,ORDERING,PAYING THE BILLS ETC DUE TO THE FACT THAT DUE TO STEFF,DONNIE,AND I SUPPLYING OVER $42,000 THEY COULD MOVE THE BEGINNING OF JAN 2007 INSTEAD OF MOVING IN THE SPRING GIVING THEM THE NEEDED TIME TRY TO ARRANGE FINANCING SOMEHOW,AND JAN,FEB,AND MARCH ARE THE MONTHS REQUIRING THE MOST TIME ON THE YARD TO KEEP THE DOGS HEALTHY AND HAPPY DUE TO THE COLD WEATHER.WELL AFTER A COUPLE WEEKS OF CHRISTY NOT RETURNING MY CALLS I FINALLY WROTE HER A LETTER ASKING WHEN SHE WAS COMING UP TO HELP WITH THE PAPERWORK AS SHE AND RON HAD PROMISED.ABOUT 3 WEEKS AFTER THEY LEFT AND MOVED INTO THEIR NEW PLACE SHE FINALLY CALLED ME.WHEN I ASKED WHEN SHE WOULD BE COMING UP HER REPLY WAS"I AM NEVER COMING BACK UP THERE TO HELP YOU IN ANY WAY".I WAS SHOCKED AND ASKED HER WHAT ABOUT ALL THE PROMISES THEY MADE BEFORE WE TURNED OVER THE MONEY?HER REPLY WAS"RON AND I TALKED IT OVER AND THEN TOLD ME EVERYTHING THEY HAD PROMISED WAS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN,INCLUDING MY STUD RIGHTS TO STOMPY WHICH WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE SALE OF WILDSIDE'S STOMPONATO.I WAS NEVER THAT BADLY DISAPOINTED IN SOMEONE IN MY WHOLE LIFE AS I WAS WITH CHRISTY THAT DAY.THATS ALL TILL TOMORROW.THE BEST IS YET TO COME!!!JUST GOT BACK FROM CHURCH AND WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I WOULD NOT BE DOING THIS IF I HAD NOT BEEN THE VICTIM OF LIES FROM MS.LYONS AND HER MINIONS SINCE THE DAY MY YARD WAS RAIDED BY THE HSUS.I AM NOT BRAGGING OR LOOKING FOR PATS ON THE BACK FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING WHEN I TELL YOU ABOUT HOW SUPPORTIVE DONNIE AND MYSELF WERE OF CHRISTY WHICH IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF HER TELLING EVERYONE THAT I USED HER AND OTHERS FOR MY OWN GAIN AND KICKED THEM TO THE CURB WHEN I NO LONGER NEEDED THEM.WELL,A FEW MONTHS AFTER CHRISTY DROPPED THE BOMB ON US THAT HER WORD MEANT NOTHING WE HAD A FRIEND ASK US IF WE WOULD SELL ONE OF OUR 5 OFF THE GROUND WHELPING PENS WITH HEATED WHELPING NEST.DONNIE AND I TALKED IT OVER AND REMEMBERED THAT THE NEWEST ONE WAS PAID FOR BY CHRISTY BUT SHE NEVER CAME BACK TO PICK IT UP.WE SOLD IT TO OUR FRIEND AND MAILED CHRISTY A U.S. POSTAL MONEY ORDER FOR $400,THE EXACT AMOUNT WE RECEIVED FOR IT.EVEN THOUGH WE WERE NOT CHRISTIANS AT THIS TIME WE DID KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG AND ON PRINCIPLE WE FELT IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.DID NOT HEAR FROM HER UNTIL ABOUT 4 OR 5 MONTHS AFTER THEY MOVED INTO THEIR PLACE IN S.CAROLINA.I WAS WATCHING TV WITH DONNIE AND RECEIVED A CALL FROM SOMEONE VERY CLOSE TO CHRISTY WHO LIVED IN CALIF.SHE ASKED ME IF THEIR WAS ANY CHANCE THAT CHRISTY COULD MOVE BACK TO THE MOUNTAIN WITH US?I EXPLAINED THAT I COULD NOT AFFORD TO FOR FINANCIAL AND HEALTH REASONS.I EXPLAINED THAT THE ECONOMY WAS BAD AND WE WERE HAVING IT ROUGH AND USING MY CREDIT CARDS TO KEEP UP THE CARE OF THE DOGS.THEN TOLD HER THAT SINCE CHRISTY WAS GONE THE STRESS LEVEL HERE HAD DROPPED TO ALMOST ZERO WITH NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH ARGUEING WITH CHRISTY OVER EVERY DECISION I WANTED TO MAKE PLUS HER ALWAYS POINTING OUT THE NEGATIVITY IN ANY ONE WHO I BEFRIENDED.AN HOUR LATER MY OLDER SISTER FROM CLEVELAND CALLED ME AND SAID SHE HAD RECEIVED A CALL FROM CHRISTY(TO HER SURPRISE)EARLIER IN THE DAY AND MS.LYONS TOLD HER THAT LEAVING THE MOUNTAIN WAS THE WORST MISTAKE OF HER LIFE!WE WERE REALLY SURPRISED BY BOTH THESE CALLS.THE NEXT DAY I GOT A CALL FROM CHRISTY TELLING ME HOW SORRY SHE WAS FOR EVERYTHING AND WHAT A PSYCHO RON WAS.THANKED US FOR THE $400 AND SAID HOW MAD RON GOT WHEN SHE RECEIVED IT FROM US.I TOLD HER ALL WAS FORGIVEN AND WE JUST WANTED HER TO BE HAPPY.OUR CONVERSATION WAS REALLY NICE UNTIL SHE REALIZED THAT I WAS NOT GONNA LET HER MOVE BACK UP HERE AND HER MOOD TOTALLY CHANGED AND SHE ENDED THE CONVERSATION PRETTY ABRUPTLY.DEC 10TH OUR YARD WAS RAIDED BY THE HSUS AND WILKES COUNTY SHERRIFFS DEPT.DONNIE AND I WERE ARRESTED AND ALL OR DOGS INCLUDING NEWBORN PUPS WERE TAKEN.NOT GONNA GO INTO THE DETAILS,SAVE ALL THAT FOR ANOTHER STORY.BUT I WAS INDICTED BY THE GRAND JURY ON 14 FELONY COUNTS OF OWNING DOGS WITH THE INTENT TO USE OR SELL THEM FOR FIGHTING(A CLASS H FELONY UNDER THE N.C. DOGFIGHTING STATUTE),DONNIE PLED GUILTY TO OWNING A DOG WITH THE INTENT TO USE OR SELL IT FOR FIGHTING.I WAS SENTENCED TO ONE ACTIVE SENTENCE OF 8 TO 10 MONTHS(OF WHICH I SERVED EVERY MINUTE OF THE 10 MONTHS)I AM STILL ON PROBATION FOR THE OTHER 13 FELONY COUNTS AND CAN BE SENT BACK TO PRISON FOR UP TO 130 MONTHS IF I VIOLATE THE TERMS OF MY PROBATION.FROM THE TIME I WAS LOCKED UP UNTIL THIS TIME LIES HAVE BEEN SPREAD BY CHRISTY,HER OOMPA LOOMPA BUDDY FROM KENTUCKY,AND OTHER BOTTOM FEEDERS.SHE HAS TOLD PEOPLE AS FAR AWAY AS VENTURA CALIF THAT I AM AN INFORMANT FOR THE FEDS WORKING UNDERCOVER BUSTING DOG FIGHTERS!!!SHE HAS GONE ON CHAT GROUPS ON THE NET TELLING LIES ABOUT ME AND HAS OTHERS REPEATING THESE LIES.SEEMS LIKE THE MAIN THEME OF HER BS IS HOW ALL I DO IS USE PEOPLE AND WHEN I AM DONE I GET RID OF THEM.WELL I GUESS I WILL CLOSE THIS.BEEN HOLDING THIS INSIDE SINCE 2009 AND NOW I WILL LET IT GO!GOD HAS BLESSED ME BY BRINGING JON AND GINNY SANDIFER(CAROLINA HEAT KENNELS) INTO OUR LIVES WHO ARE CONTINUING THE WORK THAT CHRIS AND MYSELF STARTED IN 1989 BY CARRYING ON THE WILDSIDE FAMILY OF DOGS IN ITS TRUEST FORM.THEY ARE GOOD HONEST PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY DEDICATED TO THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER.I WILL PRAY FOR CHRISTY SO THAT SHE CAN FIND THE PEACE I HAVE THROUGH KNOWING GOD AND HAVING AN AWESOME SONS AND DAUGHTERS,AND SOME REALLY GREAT FRIENDS WHO I LOVE VERY MUCH.AND AS A CHRISTIAN I HAVE FORGIVEN CHRISTY AND WISH HER ONLY THE BEST IN LIFE.GOD BLESS Y'ALL,ED

Officially Retired
08-06-2012, 07:40 AM
It is almost impossible to read a straight block of all-capital letters.

Has he ever heard of the concept of paragraphs, punctuation, and proper capitalization? These things exist to make it easier to read what one has to say.

Also, I am not sure that sounds like true "forgiveness" as much as releasing a load of pent-up hostility.

Jack

PS: Chris Chisholm (Snowdrift) wrote "The Complete Gamedog," not Christy Lyons.

bgblok68
08-06-2012, 05:05 PM
Lol Well thats one side of the story.

wrknapbt
08-06-2012, 06:54 PM
It is almost impossible to read a straight block of all-capital letters.

Has he ever heard of the concept of paragraphs, punctuation, and proper capitalization? These things exist to make it easier to read what one has to say.

Also, I am not sure that sounds like true "forgiveness" as much as releasing a load of pent-up hostility.

Jack

PS: Chris Chisholm (Snowdrift) wrote "The Complete Gamedog," not Christy Lyons.


Cristy Lyons was on facebook oday saying that she did not write that book and never took credit for it.

D.dob
08-07-2012, 10:26 AM
wow!!!!!

scratchin dog
08-07-2012, 10:56 AM
Cristy Lyons was on facebook oday saying that she did not write that book and never took credit for it.

I don't think Ed ever accused her of that. I think he is trying to set the record straight for those that don't know. However, I do think the nasty rumors and bad-mouthing going around on Facebook was what prompted this whole diatribe.

Officially Retired
08-08-2012, 04:12 AM
Cristy Lyons was on facebook oday saying that she did not write that book and never took credit for it.

I think it was other people who made that mistake/assumption.

Jack

skipper
08-08-2012, 06:29 AM
I have never been involved in anything that comes close to the amount of bullshit it is in the dogs. This is not an answer to the article, just an observation in general. It takes so little to show some decency and respect for your fellow dogmen. If you don't like a guy don't deal with him, don't have to be harder than that. If the doggers put the time and effort they do to talk smack and discredit each other and made something useful with that energy there is no telling what opportunities there is. I see on feds online people devoting what seems to be all their spare time talking down Jack. Spend that time with your dogs instead. This game could be so much better, it's sad really...

gabbagabbahey
08-08-2012, 12:23 PM
Thats the internet for you Skipper & Facebucket,well.............
Seen the reply by Christy on a european board,so no doubt there will be more to come. Hopefully they start to limit their argument to themselves & don't bring any neutral into their writings.

Officially Retired
08-09-2012, 03:31 PM
I have never been involved in anything that comes close to the amount of bullshit it is in the dogs. This is not an answer to the article, just an observation in general. It takes so little to show some decency and respect for your fellow dogmen. If you don't like a guy don't deal with him, don't have to be harder than that. If the doggers put the time and effort they do to talk smack and discredit each other and made something useful with that energy there is no telling what opportunities there is. I see on feds online people devoting what seems to be all their spare time talking down Jack. Spend that time with your dogs instead. This game could be so much better, it's sad really...


What a great post.

Abe
08-13-2012, 06:38 PM
What a great post.

+1

inkdogg
08-28-2012, 04:46 AM
Copied from another forum...
Old Glory's response to the lies said by Ed Faon
by OldGlory Kennels on Sunday, August 5, 2012 at 9:02pm ·

I never thought Ed Faron would stoop to such a low. Anyone that knows me from that time period knows how much work I put in to help WSK. I have been gone from there for almost 6 years and he continues to go on the attack against me. I have enough stuff to do without having to take the time to respond to his lies. He is making himself out to be some type of martyr when nothing could be farther then the truth. I never got a free ride from him EVER. I paid half of everything. I gave him money for dog food too!

He did NOT pay the security deposit or the first month’s rent on my place. I have the receipts posted to prove it. As far as him paying for the AC unit… LIE!! I have the receipts posted for that too. Why would I have the receipts if Ed paid for it. He may have called the place for them to come out and they logged it that way but he did not pay for the AC unit. I even have a copy of the letter posted that I sent my landlord thanking him for paying half the bill!!! As far as the great whelping box for Varmit he set up - LIE, I bought a swimming pool from Kmart!! Pictures posted! Are you kidding me Ed!!??? So ask yourself if Ed makes up lies about something so off base why is anything he says true. If you lie about something small you WILL lie about something big.

As far as the $30,000 that Stephanie gave me you better believe that it is only half the story. To this day I don’t know why Stephanie offered Ed the money to give to me as a severance. I never asked for the money!!! I thought it was a lot of money and to be honest was shocked!! I was very torn and felt that I could not just take the money for nothing. So the agreement was that I told her (with Ed present and in agreement) that the dogs that I was signing over to him would more than cover the amount that she was giving me! This was far in excess of $30,000 and certainly would cover any other money I received from dogs he sold for me. I know one older pup I gave him he sold for $3500!! So you do the math. I gave him a stack of approximately 25-30 papers when I left!! And one had a name that started with a “V”. To this day as far as I know he never gave her a dime. Before she even arrived, him and Donny would cut up and say how much money she had and Ed even mentioned he wondered if she would pay off his mortgage and put concrete slabs in for the pens. The mortgage I don’t know if it happened or not but the pens sure did!! Ed stated he didn’t even care for her but looked at it like a “good opportunity”!!! Donny gave him a high five and said “Take one for the team boss!!” The man is toxic!!! Visitors would come and the minute they left he would close the front door. They wouldn’t even be down the drive way and he started talking trash!!! The reason he doesn’t have friends is most certainly not because of me!!! Seriously, he wants people to believe he lost friendships because of me!!! Why then am I still good friends with some of them and he is not? He is the one that talked trash. He acts like I put a gun to his head. Ed Faron is NOT a stupid man. He is the most manipulative person I have ever known. He does use people!!! And he used Stephanie!!! I at least covered my debt!! In August of 2007 he left me a message that he had to “get rid of” Stephanie and that I had to pay her back and not to claim the money on my taxes. Ron called him and told Ed that he was the one that said it was severance pay. We were already paying close to $10,000 in taxes on it. Ed also informed him at this time to tell everyone that Vader was dead and that he was going to move the dog off his property and hide him because due to a court case out west he was being investigated. Ron told him we wanted no part in his charade and told him to not contact me anymore!

Trust me I had no other option but to leave with no further contact. I left dogs that I dearly loved. I am happy to hear that he did sell quite a few and they were not caught up in the raid so I know he got money for them!! I wanted a CLEAN break. I even renamed my kennel because I wanted no further ties to him. I have had friends tell me that he is insinuating that I had something to do with his raid!!!! I am not sure if that is what he was trying to say or just jumping to another topic but if he is that is a HUGE lie!!! I was gone for two years before he got busted! He got himself in that jam because he sold two dogs for illegal purposes to undercover agents and they had him on audio and video doing it. His exact words when he talked to the media were “I told them what they wanted to hear”. He has even piggy backed a message to me warning me of an informant trying to contact me. How would he be in the know of any such information???? And why warn me if he hates me so much? To cover his trail? My response was that if anything happened to my dogs that I would know exactly where it came from and to pass that back!! I do not blame the person who called they were looking out for the best interest in my dogs. He has consistently tried to bring me down. He blames all his short comings on me and I am sick of it! I have a clean yard and to have him insinuate that I am doing anything illegal is absurd. I had a visit from animal control stating that they had a specific tip from North Carolina that I was “selling dogs with the intent of selling them for illegal purposes”. I was more than happy to show them the dogs. They remarked how well the dogs looked and left shaking my hand.

As far as me calling his sister, I did. Somehow even though I had only given the ADBA and Tl at the AADR my home phone somehow his sister got it and left a message that she needed the passcode for a Microsoft program. I had no problems with his sister and called her a few days later and gave it to her. She stated she wished things would work out and that Ed was not doing well with Stephanie. I told her it was past that point and I wanted to have a life. We both wished each other the best. As far as someone from California calling him about me coming back up there I have no idea who that could have been and I really doubt it happened. As far as me calling within 5-6 months asking him to come back up is a LIE. Why would I want to go back up there??!!! I moved in January 2007. In May (which is five months), I was contacted by Oscar (Don Juan’s brother) and he asked if him and one of his brothers could come down and breed to Stompy. Ron and I said YES!! Plans fell through due to car issues and it never happened. A few months later is when I started hearing the negative comments both Ed and Donnie were making and I never answered anymore of the phone calls from Oscar.

I did call Ed a few weeks after I left and told him that I was not coming back. His exact words were “You don’t owe me anything”. I replied he didn’t owe me anything either. The conversation went better than I expected and we both agreed that I would not ask to breed to his dogs and he would not ask to breed to mine. Cut and dry!! And that included the “V” dog!!! As far as anyone talking trash to anyone in California, I have a good girlfriend out there and she knows the hell I have been through. She is not into the dogs and has met Ed and didn’t like him. I do not have any ties with anyone from California except her and my mother. I have never publicly bashed him anywhere on the internet. The only post I have ever made I have also posted to FB. This was about a fake papered dog off of CH Cowboy that a year ago he was saying was a Champion (also fake) on his FB page along with Donnie and a girl named Taylor Hernendez who was nicknamed “Drama” Casanova. Ed had her listed as his daughter and stood behind the dog 110%. I did not want to make the post nor did I want to contact the ADBA or the AADR about the falsification of a breeding. Which they both gave me statements the dog would never be registered! I am tired of having to deal with Ed Faron. He creates drama for no reason. Why wait 5 ½ years if this were true?? All I can think of is that he wants to discredit me so pups can be sold more easily by Carolina Heat. I know of no other reason. He talks too much and is a liability. Look at all the names, cities, kennel names and money he has listed in this post. I have only hit on the things he has mentioned. Like I said before I believe it is a private matter and do not wish to drag him through the mud like he has done to me. I want nothing to do with him. I keep a few dogs still and would like to be left alone. I don’t bother him so why is he bothering me. Let it go Ed!! Move on!! You cannot be a true Christian and lie as much as you do. Come on right after church you LIE!!! The receipts, letter and pictures show how he lied about that money that he said he gave me… don’t believe the lies about how much he tried to help me. If it were true he wouldn’t try to tear me down. I hope that he can find something more productive to do with his time and not be so filled with hatred. It is swallowing him up and consuming him. Who goes for 48 hours online bashing someone and making it into a soap opera saying things like “sit back”, “to be continued” etc. And it is very hard to tell your side when you do not even have access to see what he is saying about you!! The ultimate in talking behind your back!! So thanks to those who are my true friends and let me know so I could defend my character. There are two sides to every story but if you believe that Ed is a stupid man and that I influenced him in any way to lose friends you are blind. The reason for his long drawn out post has got to be at the end. He couldn’t have said please buy dogs from Carolina Heat any better. Only motive I can see. Perhaps he gets half the money from them too. Who knows. I have never met them and I don’t care about them or what they do unless they want to start trashing me too. All I care about is my dogs and that they live happy healthy long lives far away from Ed Faron and his drama!!

Officially Retired
08-28-2012, 05:39 AM
This thread is now closed.

Surely there are better things to talk about and discuss than the drama of two disgruntled people :rolleyes: