>>>))) SILVERBACK DOGS (((<<<

[Officially Retired]

For those who have been asking about some up-n-coming Silverback dogs, here are a few recent pics of some:



http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_007525_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Silver Phoenix (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7525) (22 Months)


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_017836_01.jpg
Wildchild's 007 (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=17836) (14 Months)


http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/298525.jpg
Johannes' Mocha Java (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=25355) (10 Months)


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_005174_01.jpg
JSD's Silver Money (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5174) (9 Months)


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_000212_02.jpg
Vise-Grip's Beowulf (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=212) (5 Months)


http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/403988.jpg
Vise-Grip's Amazon (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=222) (3 Months)


I will add more as I collect them, but I have very high hopes for all of these :mrgreen:

Enjoy,

Jack


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[Ape09]

Very nice looking bulldogs thanks for sharing

[Icedogger]

Good looking animals

[REDRUM]

They are all looking great Jack! :)

Silver Phoenix is looking like he's got some decent size to him. He looks much bigger than his sister Miss Hammer. Love those ears!

007 look very nice as well. What ever happened to Coca-Cola II?

[Officially Retired]

Very nice looking bulldogs thanks for sharing

Thank you & sure :mrgreen:




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Good looking animals

Thanks.




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They are all looking great Jack! :)
Silver Phoenix is looking like he's got some decent size to him. He looks much bigger than his sister Miss Hammer. Love those ears!


Thank you sir ... yes, Silver Phoenix is almost as big as Silverback, he is athletic and fast as all hell, but he also has Phoenix's durable coat and hide.

As to the disparity in size, once again selection is everything ;)





They are all looking great Jack! :)
007 look very nice as well. What ever happened to Coca-Cola II?

007 looks a lot like a young Uey, with an intermediary "ear set" between Uey and Silverback.

I sold Coca Cola II to a guy in CA. Kinda hated to do it but, beautiful as she was (with perfect conformation), Coca Cola II reminded me more of a sweet Hollingsworth bitch than a blistering Coca Cola/Silverback dog. Nothing wrong with being a sweet well-bred bitch with great conformation, but I had a specific purpose in mind for that inbreeding, and in the end the individual that reminded me most of what I was after was Beowulf. But they were all neat pups in their own way :mrgreen:

Cheers,

Jack


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[Ape09]

Do you have any update pics of the pup from ( silverback x little d) ? And also did u repeat that breeding ?

[Blackfoot]

Silver Rum is my type of bulldog! Real looker!

[wrongway]

Any dogs around off of silver dagger/cherry cola or silverback/ms. bobbi?

[TFX]

Lots of Missy influence in both 007 and Silver Money.

[Ipk]

very nice looking dogs...

[FACE203]

Dogs are looking good, fellas!!!

[Officially Retired]

Do you have any update pics of the pup from ( silverback x little d) ? And also did u repeat that breeding ?

The only pup that made it from that litter is in Indonesia, and I may have an updated pic of her that was sent to me--I will take a look. As for the repeat breeding, check the breeding section of this forum and you will see the repeat is being made right now 8-)

Jack

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[Officially Retired]

Silver Rum is my type of bulldog! Real looker!

Who's Silver Rum? :?




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Any dogs around off of silver dagger/cherry cola or silverback/ms. bobbi?

Yes, in NM for #1 and Dartmaster has Vanilla Slice in the Stud section of this forum.




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Lots of Missy influence in both 007 and Silver Money.

Yes, and the mama Loud Mouth too in Silver Money.




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very nice looking dogs...

Thank you :)




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Dogs are looking good, fellas!!!

:mrgreen:

Jack



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[SGC]

Great looking young dogs! Amazon is a beauty, she has really grown since I saw her first puppy photos.

How about Wakulla and Last Shadow? They were good looking pups, how are they doing now?

Silver Phoenix does look like old Phoenix but better built. Nice!

[Officially Retired]

Great looking young dogs! Amazon is a beauty, she has really grown since I saw her first puppy photos.
How about Wakulla and Last Shadow? They were good looking pups, how are they doing now?
Silver Phoenix does look like old Phoenix but better built. Nice!

Amazon is a TRULY SUPERIOR specimen of a pup, yes indeed! 8-)

Wakulla and Last Shadow were sold to a man in Indonesia, Sansiropits, along with John Connor (Silverback/Sarah Connor), Little Silver (Silverback/Little D), and both White Wolf and Night Howler (Silverback/Coca-Rilla).

Yes again, Silver Phoenix lives up to his name, being an "up"grade to the older Phoenix, just with a much better body and 10x the athleticism.

Jack


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[evolutionkennels]

Who owns Amazon?

[Officially Retired]

Who owns Amazon?

I do :mrgreen:

[classic pitbull]

Jack,
Good lookin dogs...
Nikita (Coca Cola II) is truly a sweet pup. I'm glad you gave her up she's 18lbs of energy and sweet as chocolate. How much is Beowulf weighting? Just want to compare growth rate.
4 months old
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/brindlepit/nik4mnths.jpg
5 months old
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/brindlepit/nikita5months.jpg

[REDRUM]

Man I LOVE that bitch you got there Classic. Best of luck with her. :)

[Officially Retired]

Jack,
Good lookin dogs...
Nikita (Coca Cola II) is truly a sweet pup. I'm glad you gave her up she's 18lbs of energy and sweet as chocolate. How much is Beowulf weighting? Just want to compare growth rate.


She looks fantastic Rich!

It is clear as day Nikita is a true Vise-Grip Dog in her athletic stance (strong front paws, held close and tight, with a wide rear stance for balance), and you will see this athletic stance displayed in most of my dogs like few others :ugeek:

You are probably going to get a lot of people "whispering in your ear," Rich, (via PMs) ... about all the "breeding plans" they have with your bitch (LOL!!) ... but when the time comes, please let me know, and we'll make sure she gets bred in the right direction ;)

As far as size goes, I honestly haven't weighed Beowulf in awhile, but I am guessing he is close to what Nikita (Coki II) is. Actually, though, when Nikita left here, she was actually the dog in the litter :D

Nice to have you onboard & Happy New Year!

Jack


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[classic pitbull]

Redrum, Thanks!

Jack, thanks again for this outstanding pup.
I will definitely get in contact before any breeding plans. As for now, I'm enjoying raising her to be the best she can be.
It's great to be onboard here, I'm gaining insight and knowledge constantly.

Happy New Year!

[Kilo]

Here's an older daughter of Silverback x Sassy. And still in impeccable health.


VISE-GRIPS GORILLA GIRL (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=32754)

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg116/scaled.php?server=116&filename=gg2ye0.jpg&res=medium

[Officially Retired]

Wow, she really is in impeccable condition; hat's off to you for that!

Sure wish everyone who had these dogs kept them like that :mrgreen:

Jack

PS: You need to breed her back with her daddy ... while there's still time ;)

[wildchild]

& IF THAT BREEDING TAKE PLACE PUT ME HIGH ON THE LIST :mrgreen: & I MEAN VERY HIGH!! :lol:

[Officially Retired]

& IF THAT BREEDING TAKE PLACE PUT ME HIGH ON THE LIST :mrgreen: & I MEAN VERY HIGH!! :lol:

That would be up to Kilo, but I am sure you would be "right there" :ugeek:

Jack

PS: Did you get my text? Little D is getting HUGE so the old man is still fertile 8-)

[wrongway]

Gorilla Girl is one of the best looking dogs I've ever seen period!!!

[Da District]

Lmao!! I'm wit cha on dat! What would they look like if we bred "Ape Shit" to that!? lol


Gorilla Girl is one of the best looking dogs I've ever seen period!!!

[reservoirdogs]

Here's an older daughter of Silverback x Sassy. And still in impeccable health.


VISE-GRIPS GORILLA GIRL (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=32754)

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg116/scaled.php?server=116&filename=gg2ye0.jpg&res=medium

Superb looking female. Congrats.

[wildchild]

Naw i didnt get that text dropped my phone in a water bowl bout a week ago. Thats great news ill hit u up soon as i get my phone back straight.
& man Lil D looks fantastic! I am glad she took hope theres better luck with the pups this time :mrgreen:
thanks 4 everything Jack uve done more 4 me than my own kinfolk!

wildchild

[CitySwamp]

Naw i didnt get that text dropped my phone in a water bowl bout a week ago. Thats great news ill hit u up soon as i get my phone back straight.
& man Lil D looks fantastic! I am glad she took hope theres better luck with the pups this time :mrgreen:
thanks 4 everything Jack uve done more 4 me than my own kinfolk!

wildchild

Hey Wildchild,

Heard you have had great success with them Vise hounds, is that Molten Lava dog still around? Has his producing career started?

[Kilo]

Thanks everyone......

If I could only get my wife and kids on board I would make the breeding in a heart beat. Their the only reason it hasn't happen, they won't let me send her off :oops: lol

[Runner]

thanks for sharing! this board will be the best in short time...period!

[Jrbulldogs]

WOW SUCH A SHAME,one of the best breedings that could be done would be silverback x gorilla girl,I could only imagine how the offspring would be,but I guess imagining is all I can do

[wrongway]

Kilo, I see u bred her to a few poncho/kitana studs. But have you ever bred her to a pure vise grip dog?

[Officially Retired]

thanks for sharing! this board will be the best in short time...period!

Thanks I appreciate it :mrgreen:


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If I could only get my wife and kids on board I would make the breeding in a heart beat. Their the only reason it hasn't happen, they won't let me send her off :oops: lol

WOW SUCH A SHAME,one of the best breedings that could be done would be silverback x gorilla girl,I could only imagine how the offspring would be,but I guess imagining is all I can do

The limitations of fear :lol:

Just a friendly reminder: we have this amazing service called Fed Ex and it allows semen to be shipped overnight ;)

Jack

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[Kilo]

lol ok so I am over run by a house full of females ha...Gorilla girl is due to come in at the end of the month to mid Feb. Lets see if we can't get A.I. done I have used the method many times with great results, haven't missed yet. I am more than happy to make this breeding it would greatly bennefit us both I'll get with you PM Jack and will make it happen, hammer out the details...Thanks.

[Officially Retired]

http://www.johnkoerner.org/Emoticons/appl.gif http://www.johnkoerner.org/Emoticons/appl.gif http://www.johnkoerner.org/Emoticons/appl.gif

Good call 8-)

[backcome]

Nice nice nice

[wildchild]

LET ME KNOW LET ME KNOW!!!!!!

[FACE203]

How are the silverback dogs, compared to the poncho dogs? Style, production, temperament, just overall... Thanks for your time

[Officially Retired]

How are the silverback dogs, compared to the poncho dogs? Style, production, temperament, just overall... Thanks for your time

LOL, come on guys I got a lady waitin on me to hit the sack :lol:

In short, they are virtually the same quality, but inbred Silverback dogs appear to be much more powerful on average.

[FACE203]

Lay it down man, I totally understand... :)

[jfcole]

Hey Jack finally got a pic of Magilla. Its not a good one he wont stay still for the camera so I had to take it will he was eating. I dont know how to put hes ped online link if you could help me out:


http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/416901.jpg
J. Cole's Magilla Gorilla (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=25227)


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[Officially Retired]

Damn, J, he looks good ... he has the rugged durability of Twilight and yet the looks of Silverback 8-)

Nice!

[jfcole]

Thanks, that videa I promised is comeimg soon. He is non stop energy.

[Officially Retired]

Thanks, that videa I promised is comeimg soon.

Sounds good, can't wait to see it :mrgreen:




He is non stop energy.

He's got a license to be 8-)

[Officially Retired]

Hey Wildchild,
Heard you have had great success with them Vise hounds, is that Molten Lava dog still around? Has his producing career started?


No, unfortunately Molten Lava died in a kennel accident.

Jack

[AmberLamps]

Jack, is Senna (www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=377509) still around ?

[Officially Retired]

Jack, is Senna (www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=377509) still around ?

Yes, Senna (Silverback x Dirty Hammer) is owned by JCole who also owns Magilla (Silverback x Twilight) :)

Cheers,

Jack

[OGDOGG]

Very nice dogs and very high percentage.

[Officially Retired]

Thank you :)

Which Silverback dogs did you have? Ponchoback?

[OGDOGG]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7980
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7979
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=4158
Yes and PonchoBack
Thank you :)

Which Silverback dogs did you have? Ponchoback?

[Officially Retired]

Just to let you know, a son of Silverback and Twilight named Primate just DOA'd one in :13 on his second time down. Two holds: kidneys/throat.

I don't agree with letting things play all the way out like that, but Wildchild said he and everyone there were in a state of shock. He has won with a lot of my dogs, and just lost one DG with a son of Rocko, and he told me, "I have never seen a [] dog before until Primate (the dog's name)." His first time down he had a 4-lb bigger dog picked up in :09.

Jack

[OGDOGG]

Its hard to watch but sometimes you just have to make sure what you have is the truth. I also have good results with breeding SS, AP and even SI. Their offsprings have that killer instinct they lack. But then they were bred to proven bitches who were killers themselves. What I do notice is that they inherited the defensive skills along with that killer instinct which made them better than their parents. So thanks to you and your dedicated breedings I now have top notch bulldogs.
Btw the two Pups I got soff SS and AP are out of the same bitch when I did a dual breeding. They are fully on and certified killers as pups . And the bitch off SI Doa a bitch on her otc under :30.

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7980
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7979
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=4158
Yes and PonchoBack

That is a great picture you took of Green Eyes (aka: Adrian Peterson). As an overall athlete, how does he compare to PonchoBack? Same thing with Super Star?

Oh, and it looks like you upgraded your camera :)

All the dogs look good & healthy.

Jack

[Nash]

That is a great picture you took of Green Eyes (aka: Adrian Peterson).

I totally agree ! Great picture, good looking dog.

[OGDOGG]

Thank you. GE is the most athletic then PB, Little Secret, then SuperStar. Even though GE is very athletic, at times when he just wanders around he looks a bit clumsy. But once he works, he just snap and go all out. He has wind for days and a crazy mentality so he never tire out or stop. PB is a total package, he is always in control, very intelligent, and when he grab on to something, you either have to pry his mouth open or choke him out of it. That dog could keep his mouth shut. Little Secret is as athletic as PB but she can't control her movement.(very intense) And run hot. We looked at her and she passed all her test. She's got mouth, very skilled defensive game bitch who will barely get touch for the first 30 minutes. Then she'll slow down and run hot and be the down dog but always holding onto something. We decided not to campaign her and keep her as a brood bitch because she's too valuable. As for SuperStar, he is the least athletic out of them but for his size(26lb)condition, i doubt any little dog could stand a chance against him. He's a smart defensive dog with mouth and who'll barnstrom and punish his opponent until he gets tire and by the time he's through, their mouth and nose are pretty much smashed already. And unlike his sister, he's got natural wind. He is also game to the bone if he has to go the distance.

[DARTMASTER]

Cool seeing updated pics of these dogs. i have a couple vids of vanilla slice wrestling with a 100# rottweiler when he was a year old. Soon as i get get them off my dead computer. Slice def looks "hollingsworthy". Has the big head, ears, thick bones. athletic as hell.

[Officially Retired]

Silverback throws full-drop ears very consistently. Ouch had em too--and of course so did Missy's mama :)

[redmistkennel]

My new pup I picked up from dart master yesterday. Thanks again dart for the great pup she is definately a good pup.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=359731

[OGDOGG]

My new pup I picked up from dart master yesterday. Thanks again dart for the great pup she is definately a good pup.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=359731
Good looking pup you got there.

[AmberLamps]

Just to let you know, a son of Silverback and Twilight named Primate just DOA'd one in :13 on his second time down. Two holds: kidneys/throat.

I don't agree with letting things play all the way out like that, but Wildchild said he and everyone there were in a state of shock. He has won with a lot of my dogs, and just lost one DG with a son of Rocko, and he told me, "I have never seen a [] dog before until Primate (the dog's name)." His first time down he had a 4-lb bigger dog picked up in :09.

Jack

Will the Silverback x Twilight breeding be repeated?

[Officially Retired]

Unfortunately, no, as Twilight is now dead also.

[AmberLamps]

Sorry to hear that.

[Officially Retired]

Yeah.

It almost feels like, as soon as I let any dog out of my hands, it is doomed to die within a year or two, 90% of the time.

Jack

[AmberLamps]

Yes Jack, that's something i'v noticed.

This isn't a dig at whoever owned Twilight, as I don't know the circumstances surrounding her death; but it does seem an all too common occurrence with your dogs to end up dead somehow, usually through carelessness.

[Officially Retired]

Not just my dogs, amigo, dogs in general.

The statistical probability of any pup born to make it from youth to old age is less than 10% I'd reckon.

Jack

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_002755_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Silver Jett (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2755)

This young bitch is 5.5 months old, and her mama (Little D) is coming in heat again right now ...

Jack

[scratchin dog]

She looks fantastic. With even more intensity than she displayed in her pic at 12 weeks. :)

[Nash]

Nice little bitch !

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_002755_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Silver Jett (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2755)

This young bitch is 5.5 months old, and her mama (Little D) is coming in heat again right now ...

Jack






She looks fantastic. With even more intensity than she displayed in her pic at 12 weeks. :)

Thank you :)

She's got "them eyes" doesn't she? :mrgreen:



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Nice little bitch !

Thanks!

Jack

[scratchin dog]

Thank you :)

She's got "them eyes" doesn't she? :mrgreen:

She sure does. Just like Poncho and Silverback. Gotta love it. 8)

[Officially Retired]

Thanks! ... and I do :D

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_025355_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Mocha Java (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=25355)

Just got 4 new photos of this triple-bred Silverback male (click link to see the rest) :mrgreen:

Jack

[PORTORICO]

greetings from Italy

VISE-GRIP'S BEOWULF 23 MONTHS
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1377556_10202262878757088_1400120935_n.jpg

[Officially Retired]

He looks fantastic, thanks for sharing, and welcome aboard :D

[R2L]

Very nice PORTORICO, and good exceptions i read in his pedigree hehe. Im going to keep an eye on him.

[scratchin dog]

Mocha Java and Beowulf both look great!

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_000212_03.JPG (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=212)

Love this picture of Beowulf :)

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_027060_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Wakulla (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=27060)


Just got this photo of Wakulla. She went to Indonesia, and they said she has fantastic energy and athleticism, but has a lot of skin problems. I tried to tell them from the beginning that my dogs do better on raw, but who listens, right? Anyway, she has recently been sold because of her skin problems, and the guy who has her now is seeking my advice as to how to get her coat back to acceptable condition.

So we'll see ... but this was my favorite dog of the litter ... and I hate seeing her coat look so rough, but that happens sometimes. The guy who has her now loves her, and really wants to bring her back up to a shiny condition. I showed him a picture of how shiny the coats were of his parents, when I bred them (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_breedingprofile.php?breeding_id=617), and I now have his attention, so I think he will listen 8)

Jack


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[Blueprint]

Vise-Grip's SILVERJACK... Not the best pic but

[Officially Retired]

Vise-Grip's SILVERJACK... Not the best pic but


Nice ... how is he bred exactly?

Is he off Brick House?

[Blueprint]

http://youtu.be/eybNl8q7Hq4

[Blueprint]

SILVERBACK x COCA RILLA

[Officially Retired]

He looks pretty good-sized ... for one of my dogs :lol: ... what does he weigh?

Thanks for sharing :)

[Blueprint]

About 38-40 lbs. Incredibly strong!!!! He looks like a super sized version of Coca Rilla. He nips on you and try to pull your clothes off just like her LOL.. You're Welcome

[Officially Retired]

That is big for an inbred dog like that, wow.

Very nice. Has heavier bone structure than his brother Beowulf. That is a valuable dog, hope he turns out as good as he's supposed to :)

Cheers,

Jack

[CYJ]

That Gorilla girl bitch is built good as it gets. That is a fine looking brood bitch. The better the machine is put together the better it will perform. Glad to see a lot of dog men have gotten away from those round chested over muscled up stocky type dogs. Cheers

[Officially Retired]

That Gorilla girl bitch is built good as it gets. That is a fine looking brood bitch. The better the machine is put together the better it will perform. Glad to see a lot of dog men have gotten away from those round chested over muscled up stocky type dogs. Cheers

Thank you. Yes, Gorilla Girl was a genetic masterpiece, and that is in large part to her mother Sassy, a quadruple-bred Hollingsworth bitch. It was a shame that Kilo lacked the cajones to send her to get bred to Silverback when he had the chance.

He (with his zero understanding of genetics) thought the breeding would be "too tight," but there is no such thing if you tighten up on the right dog. Sure, maybe a couple would have some defects, but a couple would have been absolutely fabulous too. That is the whole point of inbreeding: weeding-out the faults, and going forward with the "genetic perfection" of the individuals that come out perfecto.

And Gorilla Girl had the perfection of form, and the excellence of style, to be the kind of stellar daughter you're supposed to inbreed back to her superior sire. But, instead, Kile opted to breed her to mediocre nothing dogs by comparison because they were "right there." Frustrating to say the least.

Jack

[Mr_VIP]

2-Rilla!!!

[Officially Retired]

How is that one bred, VIP? :)

[Mr_VIP]

How is that one bred, VIP? :)

Silverback x Coca Rilla

[Officially Retired]

They all look great :)

[Officially Retired]

It's still tough to look at this bitch ...


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_000714_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Sarah Connor (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=714)

Bitten by a coral snake in the prime of her life, this double-Silverback bitch was one of the most beautiful, athletic, intelligent, and sweetest bitches I have ever owned in my life.

Still can't believe something so perfect was cut down like that, wow, what a waste :crying:

Jack

[CrazyRed]

It's still tough to look at this bitch ...


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_000714_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Sarah Connor (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=714)

Bitten by a coral snake in the prime of her life, this double-Silverback bitch was one of the most beautiful, athletic, intelligent, and sweetest bitches I have ever owned in my life.

Still can't believe something so perfect was cut down like that, wow, what a waste :crying:

Jack

Now that is one beautiful specimen of a dog.

[Blueprint]

Wow she was a nice looking bitch .

[Officially Retired]

Thanks.



http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_025355_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Mocha Java (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=25355)


Here is a photo of Sarah Connor's son (bred to Silverback), Moca Java, who just turned 3 ...

Jack

[BRICKFACE]

Jack who is breeding your stock now since you sold them all?

[PORTORICO]

7 months old 50% Visegrip Beowulf 25% eli 25% redboy

[Officially Retired]

Pedigree please :)

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_045345_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's John Connor (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=45345)

Another awesome physical specimen off Silverback 8)

[Macker]

It's still tough to look at this bitch ...


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_000714_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Sarah Connor (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=714)

Bitten by a coral snake in the prime of her life, this double-Silverback bitch was one of the most beautiful, athletic, intelligent, and sweetest bitches I have ever owned in my life.

Still can't believe something so perfect was cut down like that, wow, what a waste :crying:

Jack

She's pretty as a picture. If you got a pen and paper it'd be harder to draw a nicer dog.

I have a young bitch out on the yard I bred and she reminds me of her a lot, that strong body reminds me of her.

[MISTER]

Nice dogs fellas, I wouldn't mind breeding my line bred poncho x kitana stud to a nice silverback bitch. I think the fusion will yield some powerful, smart,athletic, deep game dogs with finish

[Officially Retired]

She's pretty as a picture. If you got a pen and paper it'd be harder to draw a nicer dog.

I have a young bitch out on the yard I bred and she reminds me of her a lot, that strong body reminds me of her.

She really was a perfect bitch.

[Officially Retired]

Nice dogs fellas, I wouldn't mind breeding my line bred poncho x kitana stud to a nice silverback bitch. I think the fusion will yield some powerful, smart,athletic, deep game dogs with finish

I would do the opposite: breed a Poncho/Kitana bitch to a Silverback stud.

For one thing, most Silverback bitches are small, and when breeding two different-sized animals together it is smarter to make the male the smaller dog and the female the large :idea:
(As when I bred the 34 lb Ch Hammer to the 50 lb Miss Trinx).
It's easier on a larger bitch to produce the pup.

For another, you don't necessarily "get the the same thing" reversing who's the male and who's the female.

The Silverback dogs will actually elevate the athleticism/speed of the Poncho/Kitana dogs ... they are faster, have better balance, and way better reflexes.
BOTH lines were intelligent, but the Silverback dogs are also the ones with finish, by comparison.
(I've never seen a Poncho/Kitana dog with finish that was even close to what Silverback had.)

However, what the Kitana blood will bring is rugged bone density and (yes) power.
The best Poncho/Kitana dogs had a tank-like density to them, a physical power, and some had truly bone-breaking mouth.
So, if you work your mix right, I agree you should get it all :)

Jack

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_002755_02.jpg
Vise-Grip's Silver Jett (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2755&thumbnail=2)


Well, this just made my day, to get an updated photo of Silver Jett, whom I sent to Italy two years ago.

It is truly nice to see a dog I sent to someone be kept in SUCH optimal condition ... hats off to Fabrizio for the care he obviously puts into his animals :hatsoff:

[scratchin dog]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_002755_02.jpg
Vise-Grip's Silver Jett (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2755&thumbnail=2)


Well, this just made my day, to get an updated photo of Silver Jett, whom I sent to Italy two years ago.

It is truly nice to see a dog I sent to someone be kept in SUCH optimal condition ... hats off to Fabrizio for the care he obviously puts into his animals :hatsoff:

She looks awesome!

[Pit Bull Committed]

Awesome looking dog.

[Officially Retired]

She looks awesome!


Awesome looking dog.

Thank you ... very proud of how she turned out ... and very grateful to the care given to her by Fabrizio :)

[CYJ]

Beautiful bitch and a lot of dog at 32 pounds. Some of the very best looking little dogs that are just huge pound for pound. When breeding up a family of dogs this is what you want to strive for. Hard to even get deep game dogs if not built for the rumble. Cheers

[MISTER]

I would do the opposite: breed a Poncho/Kitana bitch to a Silverback stud.

For one thing, most Silverback bitches are small, and when breeding two different-sized animals together it is smarter to make the male the smaller dog and the female the large :idea:
(As when I bred the 34 lb Ch Hammer to the 50 lb Miss Trinx).
It's easier on a larger bitch to produce the pup.

For another, you don't necessarily "get the the same thing" reversing who's the male and who's the female.

The Silverback dogs will actually elevate the athleticism/speed of the Poncho/Kitana dogs ... they are faster, have better balance, and way better reflexes.
BOTH lines were intelligent, but the Silverback dogs are also the ones with finish, by comparison.
(I've never seen a Poncho/Kitana dog with finish that was even close to what Silverback had.)

However, what the Kitana blood will bring is rugged bone density and (yes) power.
The best Poncho/Kitana dogs had a tank-like density to them, a physical power, and some had truly bone-breaking mouth.
So, if you work your mix right, I agree you should get it all :)

Jack

MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, I LIKE HOW YOU EXPLAINED THAT. HA THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THE KITANA DOGS FITS MY DOG TO A ”T” LOL. IT'S SOMETHING I'M GONNA DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.

[Officially Retired]

THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED THE KITANA DOGS FITS MY DOG TO A ”T” LOL.

:D

That was the difference between Poncho Jr. (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=168) and Doctor Death (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1695).

Junior was just a thick, powerful WALL compared to Doc.

Doc's bites couldn't even tickle Junior, whereas when Junior bit Doc, he crippled him and fucked him up.

It was over in :12 ... Doc was done. I had to pick Doc up off the floor and carry him back upstairs. When I put him down on his own, he was on unsteady legs. He tried to hike his leg to piss ... and fell over on his side. Could not get back up under his own power.

Junior was not "slow" ... he was actually pretty fast for a 48 lb dog ... but he did not have the speed of my Silverback dogs.
But if he got his mouth on you, he f----d your $#!^ up. And it was very hard for another dog to put a dent in him, in return.

Mister (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=342), Hero (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=333), Mr. Serious (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=6826) were all the same way: smart, fogging durable, and would wreck you and hurt you severely every time they got their mouth on you.

At any point, no matter how far behind, they could change the whole deal if they got their mouth on you good.

And with durable, game, long-winded dogs ... that is a tough combo to beat 8)

I think Mister spent an hour behind Break Em Down's Jadakiss.
Jadakiss was a mile ahead, destroying Mister's face ... and yet with one bite on the shoulder, Mister broke Jadakiss' shoulder at the hour mark, and it was over in 1:20.
To be able break a dog's bones like that after the hour mark, especially with crushed sinuses, is something not a lot of dogs can do, but these dogs could.

:cheers:

[MISTER]

:D

That was the difference between Poncho Jr. (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=168) and Doctor Death (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1695).

Junior was just a thick, powerful WALL compared to Doc.

Doc's bites couldn't even tickle Junior, whereas when Junior bit Doc, he crippled him and fucked him up.

It was over in :12 ... Doc was done. I had to pick Doc up off the floor and carry him back upstairs. When I put him down on his own, he was on unsteady legs. He tried to hike his leg to piss ... and fell over on his side. Could not get back up under his own power.

Junior was not "slow" ... he was actually pretty fast for a 48 lb dog ... but he did not have the speed of my Silverback dogs.
But if he got his mouth on you, he f----d your $#!^ up. And it was very hard for another dog to put a dent in him, in return.

Mister (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=342), Hero (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=333), Mr. Serious (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=6826) were all the same way: smart, fogging durable, and would wreck you and hurt you severely every time they got their mouth on you.

At any point, no matter how far behind, they could change the whole deal if they got their mouth on you good.

And with durable, game, long-winded dogs ... that is a tough combo to beat 8)

I think Mister spent an hour behind Break Em Down's Jadakiss.
Jadakiss was a mile ahead, destroying Mister's face ... and yet with one bite on the shoulder, Mister broke Jadakiss' shoulder at the hour mark, and it was over in 1:20.
To be able break a dog's bones like that after the hour mark, especially with crushed sinuses, is something not a lot of dogs can do, but these dogs could.

:cheers:

Awesome read, my stud is bred down from mister, hero, and hot tamale. He's a powerhouse, built like a war tank, and will give you a better facelift than any Hollywood plastic surgeon lol. The few times he's hit the body he's done good work but he prefers the head, I guess he feels he's in control and also out of danger. I want to incorporate the ”Gorilla” in my program to add that sublime finishing capability on a consistent basis. I truly believe it could be special if/and when it happens

[Blueprint]

I'm trying to make this breeding happen soon. If it was totally up to me it would definitely happen. http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_testbreeding.php?sire_id=790&dam_id=45574

[MISTER]

I'm trying to make this breeding happen soon. If it was totally up to me it would definitely happen. http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_testbreeding.php?sire_id=790&dam_id=45574

Love to purchase a female from that. It's a very nice breeding

[Blueprint]

These are my RBJBT/ Vise Grip pups at 4 months old. Low quality pic taken through glass door. http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=40269

[Blueprint]

Thanks Mister if it happens we can work something out. I'm interested in your blood also.

[MISTER]

Thanks Mister if it happens we can work something out. I'm interested in your blood also.

Nice pups bro and we can definitely make something happen hit my pm wit a contact and we'll go from there. Again I like them pups good luck with them bro

[Blueprint]

Check out the vertical on Silverjack :D Sorry for the double post Im on my cell.

[S_B]

No problem Blueprint I removed one. Great look alike you have there. :-bd

[Blueprint]

Thanks SB

[SHOWBOX]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_027060_01.jpg
Vise-Grip's Wakulla (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=27060)


Just got this photo of Wakulla. She went to Indonesia, and they said she has fantastic energy and athleticism, but has a lot of skin problems. I tried to tell them from the beginning that my dogs do better on raw, but who listens, right? Anyway, she has recently been sold because of her skin problems, and the guy who has her now is seeking my advice as to how to get her coat back to acceptable condition.

So we'll see ... but this was my favorite dog of the litter ... and I hate seeing her coat look so rough, but that happens sometimes. The guy who has her now loves her, and really wants to bring her back up to a shiny condition. I showed him a picture of how shiny the coats were of his parents, when I bred them (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_breedingprofile.php?breeding_id=617), and I now have his attention, so I think he will listen 8)

Jack


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Any updated pics on this ones coat condition? I would love to see her tip top.

SHOWBOX

[PORTORICO]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_000212_04.jpg?836105

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=212
I'm Beowulf

Greetings from Italy

[SGC]

He looks great. Thanks for posting his photo.

[scratchin dog]

Beowulf looks awesome. Nice to see he's being kept in great shape.

[CrazyRed]

I wish somebody do a breeding here wit that stuff, I need one.

[PORTORICO]

I wish somebody do a breeding here wit that stuff, I need one.

Where are you from?

[CrazyRed]

U.S.

[Officially Retired]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dog_000212_04.jpg?836105

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=212
I'm Beowulf

Greetings from Italy


I love this lil' dog, thanks for posting a pic of him :D

[ASAP]

Ive learned by reading this thread and other topics on this forum that the silverback dogs are finishers and are very strong. Just wanted to know if they have the same style as the heavier poncho dogs.

[CrazyRed]

Now the most important question or direction of the topic, where are all the Poncho/Silverback dogs at now that could be made available to others? Stop being stingy don't let the blood die.

[Officially Retired]

Ive learned by reading this thread and other topics on this forum that the silverback dogs are finishers and are very strong. Just wanted to know if they have the same style as the heavier poncho dogs.

Yes, they are primarily head dogs also. The only places Silverback ever bit were deep on the ear for control, or on the muzzle to get something out, or he'd hit the throat once he had established control. Silverback never shook a front leg once; he never went anywhere else but the head/throat. (His daddy would go for the ass-end, though, but I don't really like that myself.)




Now the most important question or direction of the topic, where are all the Poncho/Silverback dogs at now that could be made available to others? Stop being stingy don't let the blood die.

There are/were some added recently to the pups/dogs classifieds.

I haven't done a breeding since 2012 and probably won't for awhile, if again.

Jack

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[CrazyRed]

There are/were some added recently to the pups/dogs classifieds.

I haven't done a breeding since 2012 and probably won't for awhile, if again.

Jack

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Thought for sure Amazon would get a litter or two out of you.

[Officially Retired]

I've thought about it, believe me.

But I am in an apartment and work too much to have the time.

Maybe in a couple of years I will slow down, get a home in a rural area, and try to reconstruct what's left.

Was thinking about buying 2 males and one more pure bitch again at some point later this year, and re-building from there.

But realistically, it will not for at least another 2 years.

Jack

[CrazyRed]

I've thought about it, believe me.

But I am in an apartment and work too much to have the time.

Maybe in a couple of years I will slow down, get a home in a rural area, and try to reconstruct what's left.

Was thinking about buying 2 males and one more pure bitch again at some point later this year, and re-building from there.

But realistically, it will not for at least another 2 years.

Jack

I sure hope so, I'm about to ready that petition lol. I'm sure a few folks would send you what you wanted just so you can start back up. Not sure how WC is doing, but even 1 of his 2 males back with you and Amazon and another gyp would be one fast track way to start. Was talking to a guy who is searching for some heavy Duke stuff or Uuey stuff or anything that goes back to the heavy Poncho x Scream stuff for me. 2 years sounds far but it's not too far away. Not to many guys out here breeding a family of dogs they've had for 5-8 years let alone 20.

[Officially Retired]

I sure hope so, I'm about to ready that petition lol. I'm sure a few folks would send you what you wanted just so you can start back up. Not sure how WC is doing, but even 1 of his 2 males back with you and Amazon and another gyp would be one fast track way to start. Was talking to a guy who is searching for some heavy Duke stuff or Uuey stuff or anything that goes back to the heavy Poncho x Scream stuff for me. 2 years sounds far but it's not too far away. Not to many guys out here breeding a family of dogs they've had for 5-8 years let alone 20.

Thank you.

I have a Silverback/BrickHouse male, and would definitely want to go with one of WC's studs (Silverback/Twilight, Uey's sister).

I also want one of the 3/4 Silverback, 1/4 Cherry Cola males ... and I like how the Silverback/Little D males sound also, as well as English's Truck.

All of them could be family-bred, checked, and come up with a solid % of usable dogs.

Wouldn't mind getting my hands on John Connor (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=45345) either ...

Jack

[PORTORICO]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dogs/26536/dog_026536_012603.jpg?654412


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=26536

[PORTORICO]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dogs/26537/dog_026537_012608.jpg?350370

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=26537

[Kilo]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=67429 http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dogs/67429/dog_067429_017523.jpg?830426

[SGC]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=67429 http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dogs/67429/dog_067429_017523.jpg?830426

Well bred and great looking young bulldog!

[PORTORICO]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dogs/26537/dog_026537_017723.jpg

[PORTORICO]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/pics/dogs/26537/dog_026537_017723.jpg


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=26537