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HappyBox
10-31-2012, 08:53 PM
I wish I could be open with the world on my thoughts and opinions about these dogs and everything about them. I wish I could speak my mind and tell everyone how I feel (kinda like Richard Stratton) the passion I have makes me want to "share the wealth" so to speak. But I know my thoughts and opinions would only be shunned for being "politically incorrect" by closed minded individuals and I could potentially lose everything just because of my beliefs. I just hate "hiding in the closet" so to speak... But I suppose if I plan to have a future in these dogs that is the way it should stay... Right? People are scared of what they do not understand and I'm scared of being "figured out" and shunned or worse... As the saying goes ignorance is bliss.
skipper
10-31-2012, 11:49 PM
Don't worry. The longer you are into the dogs the more you tend to isolate yourself from the general population. I haven't been in these dogs for a long time, but already 80% of the time i speak to someone, it's to another dogman. Sooner or later people are going to think you are insane about your dogs and you'll end up with dogmen as your best friends.
how are you gonna tell people about something you have never done. you are still one of those who dont understand imo
if you already thinking about telling the world now, what would you do after the first time when you're all excited?
and how would you think about it after your first dog gets messed up badly or actually find out 80% of the "dogman" are not those gentleman's from the books and stories.
CRISIS
11-01-2012, 09:29 AM
LMAo......."Hey Hey Now.............i thought all dogmen were stand up honest gentlemen!"
pig mad
11-01-2012, 11:23 AM
Im more suss with every post
Gameness
11-01-2012, 01:07 PM
Im more suss with every post
x2, but whatever.
CRISIS
11-01-2012, 02:05 PM
someone once told me "the best trick ever played, was satan convincing the world that he doesnt exist"....
CRISIS
11-01-2012, 02:11 PM
if u can figure that out youll be ok....
HappyBox
11-01-2012, 06:22 PM
Thanks for your input skipper. And R2L you make some very good points and seem very wise...
On another note why do some of you have to be such an ass to me when all I want is to learn from you!
pig mad
11-01-2012, 06:28 PM
Learn what kennel locations?? I got nothing to teach im not in your country and am just a pig hunter..
HappyBox
11-01-2012, 06:33 PM
Is this site not a place where people come to share knowledge and learn???? Since when does wanting to learn and sharing my thoughts equal out to me being a suspect????
HappyBox
11-01-2012, 06:58 PM
You know it's a damn shame that people get run off when only trying to learn more about the breed. I don't care where anyone's kennel is located and I don't give a shit about what you do with your dogs...so until then stop being loud mouth bitches talking about what you don't know. I'm a FEMALE trying to learn/talk dogs with what I thought was to be more knowledgeable dogman/people than what I am and now just learning that you all are a bunch of cowards. Grow up, be about the dogs and know WTF you are talking about before making serious accusations like me being a "spy". I'll be sure to let other people know how "newbies" get treated on here and for them not to give any of your sorry asses any money to register. Waste of time and money. And the dog friends that I do have are very surprised to hear how poorly I have been treated on here. It's a fucking shame!!!
scratchin dog
11-01-2012, 10:27 PM
Is this site not a place where people come to share knowledge and learn????
Yes, it is a place to share knowledge and learn. If you have a question or don't understand something then ask. :idea:
There is already plenty to read here which will give you an idea of what you want to know. Just start reading. Get a game bred bulldog. Go to shows and meet people. Get involved with a pit bull club. But like others have said, don't be surprised if the dog men you meet do not live up to your expectations.
Since when does wanting to learn and sharing my thoughts equal out to me being a suspect????
When you start asking people about doing things that are illegal here in this country. No one here knows you personally, why are you surprised at their reactions?
pig mad
11-01-2012, 10:37 PM
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OGDOGG
11-01-2012, 11:30 PM
Grow up, be about the dogs and know WTF you are talking about before making serious accusations like me being a "spy". I'll be sure to let other people know how "newbies" get treated on here and for them not to give any of your sorry asses any money to register. Waste of time and money. !
Good enough reason?
CRISIS
11-01-2012, 11:44 PM
shit talkers?.....lol....no way!?!?! lol..... welcome to the dogworld!............("hey YOU wanted in!!!)
Black Hand
11-02-2012, 01:09 AM
You know it's a damn shame that people get run off when only trying to learn more about the breed. I don't care where anyone's kennel is located and I don't give a shit about what you do with your dogs...so until then stop being loud mouth bitches talking about what you don't know. I'm a FEMALE trying to learn/talk dogs with what I thought was to be more knowledgeable dogman/people than what I am and now just learning that you all are a bunch of cowards. Grow up, be about the dogs and know WTF you are talking about before making serious accusations like me being a "spy". I'll be sure to let other people know how "newbies" get treated on here and for them not to give any of your sorry asses any money to register. Waste of time and money. And the dog friends that I do have are very surprised to hear how poorly I have been treated on here. It's a fucking shame!!!
The shame is you not knowing that you learn with your eyes and ears, not your mouth.
tasoschatz
11-02-2012, 03:49 AM
He who listens learns, he who talks makes an ass of himself.
If you listen, gather info and do your skimming, at the end you will learn something. If you talk a lot you will either embarrasse yourself or help others to learn, not yourself.
This same person came at me sideways because we are friends on face book ! She expected me to say I knew her and come rescue her name ! Not even close dear !
Read all the post I've made here. Not one oz of disrespect or a direct line to any where. I keep my head down learning finding the dogs I want learning what it is in a dog I personally need and want. So when I'm ready to compete at what ever I decide to compete at I'm knowledgeable informed educated " earned my respect "
I don't think you are a spy but I trust you as far as I could throw a 300 lb man because your quick to anger and quick with tongue which never ends well for anyone. Ill be amazed if you read this thru before flaming me for speaking out. Get a clue grab a book slow down and learn like everyone else trail and error and when someone respect your efforts and natural ability maybe they will mentor you. This demanding and asking such questions would get you anywhere in a MMA gym so why would it in this circle ? Hell no one has helped or mentored me for shit !
HappyBox
11-02-2012, 09:12 AM
Lol ok Abe my fellow UKC dogman. I'm quick to angry yet who was the one calling who a names? You can say what you want you know who my mentor is, where my dogs come from and have been on my fb for days! My fb is a a huge insight to my life and you've see it all. Yet you still don't wanna say nothing unless its to talk shit! You have no mentors eh? What about your idols Roki reds and their UKC stock that you admire so much they haven't mentored you any? Or how about the UKC pup from seven sins they haven't mentored you any? Your a joke thinking ur some higher level "dogman"
Gameness
11-02-2012, 09:35 AM
The show ring sounds brutal :lol:
HappyBox
11-02-2012, 09:55 AM
Abe you told me you've been in this breed 20+ years and what do you have to show for it???? After all the dogs you been thru you have what 2-3 dogs of UKC stock??? After 20 years!?!?
At least Iam a newbie and have only put in 5-6 and a few years down the road Im better educated and can see where I need a change!
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scratchin dog
11-02-2012, 11:02 AM
Lol It's not just brutal it's cut throat!
Abe you told me you've been in this breed 20+ years and what the do you have to show for it???? After all the dogs you been thru you have what 2-3 dogs of UKC stock??? After 20 years!?!?
At least Iam a newbie and have only put in 5-6 and a few years down the road Im better educated and can see where I need a change!
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HappyBox
11-02-2012, 04:09 PM
I hear you moderator and have now taken the time to read the rules... I will try to speak with kinder words although I find it unfair that people can sit here and beat me up for being a "spy" or a "suspect" when your rules specifically say "The Pit Bull Bible APBT Discussion Forum welcomes bulldog fanciers from all walks of life"... I maybe from a different walk of life then some of you on this board but I'am a fanicer all the same and have not been treated for the most part with welcome arms. All because my questions, thoughts, and opinions are different.
And it is a SHAME that someone who knows of me and who I'am and even comes from the same background in dogs would rather tear me down and talk bad then stand up for what is right just to look better in the eyes of those he'd like to please. As we all know how much easier it is to jump on the bandwagon then go with the unpopular stance.
Well I'm not here to win any of you over or try and be the most popular poster. I'm here to learn from you so that I can better my own knowledge. And I thank the few of you who have shared your much appreciated advice and knowledge
CRISIS
11-02-2012, 04:35 PM
ok i got a serious question .................."this whole mentor thing.................who really has one?" lol, if i were "mentored" by anybody, its a handfull of about 6 or 7 guys, a few which ive never met in person!
pig mad
11-02-2012, 06:23 PM
Get the bible
Like I said run your mouth ! I don't know shit about your dog where it came from or how it's breed yup I gotta a couple a show dogs your right never once denied it or claimed to be any level of dog men ! Yup I called you a bitch you stepped outta line like a bitch does when you didn't get what you wanted like a spoiled brat ! I've never meet you doubt I ever will nor will you ever know my dog business history or present besides my show dogs. Keep running your mouth and your hole continues to get deeper ! I wouldn't trust your loud mouth with my Ro-Ki dog shit ! Ever
You have to reason for my name to come out of your mouth so don't let it ! Forget you know me as I pry I can your young loud mouth ass ! Go away !
Lol ok Abe my fellow UKC dogman. I'm quick to angry yet who was the one calling who a names? You can say what you want you know who my mentor is, where my dogs come from and have been on my fb for days! My fb is a a huge insight to my life and you've see it all. Yet you still don't wanna say nothing unless its to talk shit! You have no mentors eh? What about your idols Roki reds and their UKC stock that you admire so much they haven't mentored you any? Or how about the UKC pup from seven sins they haven't mentored you any? Your a joke thinking ur some higher level "dogman"
Sorry for breaking the rules ! Won't happen again !
I went to my first UKC show this year ! Never have I owned a UKC type dog before and trust me you will never know where I've been or done but the ones the do ain't running there mouth on here !
You don't know a dam thing about but what you read on Facebook ! That is what I've put out there for the public to know that is it no more no less ! Trust me I know what I've owned what I own now and what I will own in the future and when you get burnt out and tuck your tail and go back to you training center ill still be running top notch dogs ! That I promise and you won't have a clue as to a dam thing I'm doing ! Like I told you already on fb go away your annoying
Get the bible
Best thing I've ever done ! I will ignore this thread and openly say I'm sorry for being childish and stooping to this level !
HappyBox
11-03-2012, 08:29 AM
Lol your funny. I know where you've been and what you've done and that's the ADBA/UKC show ring and I have been told about many if not all the dogs you have owned in the past or own currently as you seem to forget how well known you are in the ADBA/UKC world ( and that's not always a good thing) You don't consider a Castillo dog a UKC "type" as from what I've seen they can do quite well in the ring. Or how about the dog you had from Kenny that wasn't a UKC type dog as I remember his dogs doing well in UKC too. No? Maybe I'm wrong then maybe they were just ADBA show type dogs lol quit acting like you have more then just the couple show dogs. Who are these " top notch" dogs you speak of? I'd love to see
scratchin dog
11-03-2012, 10:31 AM
Ok, Abe and HappyBox, you guys don't seem to understand. I don't want to see any more of this useless back and forth BS between the two of you. Even after I posted the rules, you both ignored it and had to get your 2¢ in. From now on, if you have something to say to each other, take it to PM's. This site is for discussing dogs not petty BS.
This thread is closed.
Officially Retired
11-04-2012, 06:29 PM
Thank you ScratchinDog for taking care of this.
I think the line between asking questions "to learn something new" ... and asking questions to get people to incriminate themselves has been drawn.
To Happy Box, whether this site becomes "a waste of money" to you, or not, is entirely up to you.
You might be surprised to learn that MOST people are going to consider their own safety, privacy, and families to be more important to them than "your learning new things" :rolleyes:
If you don't have the patience, understanding, and basic sense in general to accept this reality, you won't make a very good dogman anyway.
However, if you do learn to develop these key dispositions in general, then the rest of what you're looking for will follow in the time, and in the proportion, that you first demonstrate the aforementioned characteristics.
Jack