BMW's Joe Black

[No Quarter Kennel]

Can anyone point me in the direction of someone with this line of dogs here in the states?

Thank you

[pesifik_oshen]

Were you looking at anything down from Joe Black specifically, or just Little Gator dogs in general?

[No Quarter Kennel]

Little Gator/China Boy dogs more so than Joe Black.
Have we been talking on email yet? I've been talking w/ SPK

No offense meant toward anyone or any dogs, but I'd like to be Frisco free to be honest.

Do you have something?

[Ez Country]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=369917

I like this one

[tasoschatz]

I wonder what the inbreeding coef is at the ped evo posted...

[skipper]

Damn most earl jr stuff is so inbred they should have 2 heads by now. I like the blood, but prefer it crossed.

[Ez Country]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=410511

Got this one also, Haven't worked with this type of blood. I am hoping she works out and is good enough to cross with the Chase/Chita dogs I have.

[Kimo615]

Here is a a dog I own with Joe Black

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=430844

[TFX]

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=369917

I like this one

When we did that breeding with Vinny, we did it as a favor to him out of respect. It was a swap, wherein we bred our Ariel bitch to Too Tight, not really because we wanted to, but that was the offer and we accepted. Heck, I think we would have let him breed without a swap just because as the breeder of Patrick's Homer we felt the right thing to do was let him tap back into his own blood. I wouldn't have bet that Homer III x the Little Gator stuff would have been anything to write home about when we did it. In hindsight, the fact is that it turned out to be damned good litter of dogs. They have continued to produce good dogs from that same blend as you see it here. Be advised that the guy "P" who owned some of those dogs is a lowlife, tweaker dog theif who stole dogs from at least 5 people I know of including me.

As a side note, the Too Tight x Ariel litter we had in the swap produced 6 pups, and we kept 5, every one of them rank curs. The one pup we got rid of went to Buitre Farms and became CH Nisa. I've had that kind of luck in these dogs for more than half of my life. So it is.
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=117532

[Kimo615]

Its the first one I've owned with a Little Gator/Chinaman cross. Definitely like Chinaman blood as I've used it before. But didn't know much about Little Gator stuff personally. No hands on so to speak. All I knew is that folks where running it out west and in Mexico and having success with it. TG offered a good deal...so I took it. Didn't know anyone else in the U.S running it either. So far I'm happy with him. He's still young though.

[Milehighmisfit]

When we did that breeding with Vinny, we did it as a favor to him out of respect. It was a swap, wherein we bred our Ariel bitch to Too Tight, not really because we wanted to, but that was the offer and we accepted. Heck, I think we would have let him breed without a swap just because as the breeder of Patrick's Homer we felt the right thing to do was let him tap back into his own blood. I wouldn't have bet that Homer III x the Little Gator stuff would have been anything to write home about when we did it. In hindsight, the fact is that it turned out to be damned good litter of dogs. They have continued to produce good dogs from that same blend as you see it here. Be advised that the guy "P" who owned some of those dogs is a lowlife, tweaker dog theif who stole dogs from at least 5 people I know of including me.

As a side note, the Too Tight x Ariel litter we had in the swap produced 6 pups, and we kept 5, every one of them rank curs. The one pup we got rid of went to Buitre Farms and became CH Nisa. I've had that kind of luck in these dogs for more than half of my life. So it is.
http://apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=117532

Hello TFX,
Would you happen to have any first hand knowledge of Vinny's Bison boy, who is inbred of Vinny's Shyboy and Shy girl. Perhaps you aren't familiar with Bison Boy but maybe the shyboy stuff? Great lookoing little ELI stud with lots of Black Angel behind him. He is being advertised in the latest Gazzette. I have always been interested in the Little Gator blood behind Black Angel ashe was a littermate to Crum's (Hammonds') China Boy. If anyone has any knowledge of this stud or the dogs behind him please share. Also if anyone knows if the person who owns this dog is worth dealing with let me know. Thanks!!!

[bulldoghistorian]

not sure if its relevant but most of these dogs from that blood were sent to Europe
rocket , joe black , angela

Joe Black ended up in eastern europe in the end
I dont know if anything is still around lost contact

[realitytv]

From a very good dogman on the west coast Bison is cold and skittish