View Full Version : Although we don't breed for it specifically, how important is the color trait to you?
In relation to certain lines I think it's important overall.
I have never bred for a color or even factored that in. If a puppy has a throwback color to one of his grandparents I humor myself by saying it is a throwback. Once we bred a Maloney bred dog to a heavy Bolio crossed bitch (carrying her Bolio traits) and one of the female pups had a white head and one blue eye. We had re-created Dirty Mary. Or at least that is how we made conversation. I imagine if one had intimate knowledge of a family of dogs over a period of time then recognizing a color in a puppy may be 'inside' knowledge. EWO
Officially Retired
08-22-2013, 07:33 PM
What made Silverback unique to my yard was 1) his color and 2) the fact he was one of only 3 dogs I have ever owned in 20+ years that could finish a dog with one throat hold.
What was interesting was the fact that Silverback threw a lot of seal-colored dogs, but not all could finish. In fact, most could not.
However, of Silverback's offspring that *could* finish, every single one was a seal-colored dog like he was.
Whether that means anything or not is debatable ...
Jack
ToTheDogs
08-22-2013, 11:18 PM
I like to have a uniform yard I like a typical yellow lookin hound. That being said if I have a litter I always keep the yellow ones. Victor would do the same and send the red nose hollingsworth dogs to the usa. Here's a question wtf is the deal with chocolate dogs? I know its supposed to be a mutation of black. I have a little buckskin bitch who sire is a chocolate and throws black, chocalate and yellow dogs. So the bitch is coming in and she has two sons a red nose red hound and a black son I'm going to take her to one of them. So which son would produce more cola looking chocolate hounds. Seems like the chocolate ones are better for reasons I have zero fucking clue?
ToTheDogs
08-22-2013, 11:22 PM
Jack whatever became of that little chocolate green eyed pup off silverback? Forgot his name
I just like my red boy dogs to be red red nose, not blue or brindle or tri color. I like my honey bunch stuff buckskin and so on..... Certain lines you can damn near look and tell by that coat among other things. I guess I just couldn't take a red red nose dog that was supposed to be heavy rascal you know what I mean I'd expect it to be predominantly black.
You have to consider the bitch also ToTheDogs. It's not just him, throwing pups. I have a liver colored bitch with a rednose who's sire is black and dam is buckskin with black nose. I'm sure them bitches your bitch's sire is being bred to have some yellow dogs somewhere up close in the ped and maybe inbred/linebred off one too. I do think color is a factor, simply cause the traits are carried right along with color IMO.
skipper
08-23-2013, 02:14 AM
I don't like black dogs. However every dog on my yard is black but one. If i could choose i would have them all buckskin or brindle.
I don't like black dogs. However every dog on my yard is black but one. If i could choose i would have them all buckskin or brindle.
lmao i had 3 black dogs a few months ago, now none of them are left and i actually replaced them with brindles and buckskin
if i were to breed 2 brindles, and my litter would consist of 5 brindles and 2 bucksin. i keep all pups anyway, but if i was letting anything go it be the buckskin.
Officially Retired
08-23-2013, 04:05 AM
I like to have a uniform yard I like a typical yellow lookin hound. That being said if I have a litter I always keep the yellow ones. Victor would do the same and send the red nose hollingsworth dogs to the usa. Here's a question wtf is the deal with chocolate dogs? I know its supposed to be a mutation of black. I have a little buckskin bitch who sire is a chocolate and throws black, chocalate and yellow dogs. So the bitch is coming in and she has two sons a red nose red hound and a black son I'm going to take her to one of them. So which son would produce more cola looking chocolate hounds. Seems like the chocolate ones are better for reasons I have zero fucking clue?
LOL, I don't have a clue either :lol:
Officially Retired
08-23-2013, 04:08 AM
Jack whatever became of that little chocolate green eyed pup off silverback? Forgot his name
His name was Green Eyes (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7980), and he grew up to be a very game dog, but no finisher. His eye color also eventually became gold :(
He is a full brother to the last dog I own, Amazon (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=222), but he is from the first breeding; she is from the third breeding.
Jack
skipper
08-23-2013, 07:28 AM
lmao i had 3 black dogs a few months ago, now none of them are left and i actually replaced them with brindles and buckskin
if i were to breed 2 brindles, and my litter would consist of 5 brindles and 2 bucksin. i keep all pups anyway, but if i was letting anything go it be the buckskin.
Just shows what u get when colour isnt one of the criteria for breeding. One good thing about all dogs look the same is when u walk dogs neighbours and people u meet think u walk the same dog all the time.
CrazyRed
08-23-2013, 01:12 PM
I like to have a uniform yard I like a typical yellow lookin hound. That being said if I have a litter I always keep the yellow ones. Victor would do the same and send the red nose hollingsworth dogs to the usa. Here's a question wtf is the deal with chocolate dogs? I know its supposed to be a mutation of black. I have a little buckskin bitch who sire is a chocolate and throws black, chocalate and yellow dogs. So the bitch is coming in and she has two sons a red nose red hound and a black son I'm going to take her to one of them. So which son would produce more cola looking chocolate hounds. Seems like the chocolate ones are better for reasons I have zero fucking clue?
I wonder that myself, every chocolate dog I've ever seen was a damn good dog and not a cold one. Buddy of mines had a male come out chocolate, and when bred he kept all the chocolate ones but never the black ones. The black ones for the most part were garbage but every chocolate dog off him was show quality and had won a show or lost game trying. Never had 1 cull off about 25+ coco dogs. He hated Coco dogs but said that what was winning so eventually his yard because Coco and buckskin black nose. The buckskin red nose dogs werent great quality either. Also his Coco dogs didnt have mouth but all appeared to have same face style and were fast and would finish, his buckskin red nose dogs all could punch werent as quick but wouldnt even attempt to finish.
That's crazy now that I think about it the very first pit bull I owned was a chocolate red nose and she was dead game I mean took her shit til the bitter end! I never even really thought about that til now, but anyway.
Just shows what u get when colour isnt one of the criteria for breeding. One good thing about all dogs look the same is when u walk dogs neighbours and people u meet think u walk the same dog all the time.
Man I live in the city, I usually don't have more than two dogs. Some make and some don't. The problem being your neighbours get suspicious if every 2 years or so you have a new dog. This is one reason I always get dogs that are about the same colour and size. My last three dogs had the exact same name they'd answer to which is the name my neighbours would be told. Now each of those dogs had different call names but even those were real similar. There are people who will tell you I had the exact same dog since 2001 but there's been like 3 or 4 of them.
Besides I don't care who knows I like red dogs!