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BONEDADDY
12-27-2013, 05:47 AM
I was talking to some people about bulldogs and they think that all of us are dumbass rednecks. When I told them that I was working on a Master's Degree, they said that there's no way that someone who raises bulldogs is educated. I laughed because not only am I educated, I am also street smart. I also spent 22 years in the Army. How many of you are educated? By the way, I am still a student of the breed.
that assumption is at least as stupid as the dumbass rednecks themselves. although i can understand, lol. i think most of the successful dogman are or were intelligent people, otherwise they'de have to be very lucky.
CrazyRed
12-27-2013, 06:32 AM
Also working on a Master's Degree, My partner has his CPA, his wife has Bachelor in Accounting and my ex-wife has a Master's in Economics.
evolutionkennels
12-27-2013, 06:42 AM
I have my bachelor's in Finance, an MBA, and minor in genetics.
No Quarter Kennel
12-27-2013, 07:37 AM
I have a college degree and have been in the education business for 16 years.
Wife is a dean at a local college
captain
12-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Didn't Tom Garner teach at Duke?
Very impressed. I finished High School and went straight to work with Southern Bell. Today is now back to AT&T. Did 6 years in the Navy and 12 years in the National Guards. 31 years total with Bell South, later renamed AT&T.
Was able to retire and draw my full pension at 49 years old. Will be 64 years old this coming May. No degree per say but watched my finances, did not have to work myself to death for Da Man. Have several grand's that have college degrees or working on one.
You fellows have any ideas to what will pull our country out of this looming debt and possible collapse of our monetary system. Paper money with no substantial backing will go only so far. Seems half of our country is working for the other half. Cheers
BKNGAME
12-27-2013, 10:16 PM
I graduated inside the top 10 in the country with scholastic honors, some engineering college (NCSU), & started my current business @25 yrs old now approaching my 12th yr. I've also been a bulldog student since the age of 7 when I received my first retiree/stud dog. I've noticed major differences in people since I've come "BK-N-GAME".
bigpopdog
12-28-2013, 01:25 AM
I GOT A GOOD ENOUGH DIPLOMA AND THAT'S IT BUT I STILL CONSIDER MYSELF AN EDUCATED MAN :mrgreen:.
Officially Retired
12-28-2013, 04:29 AM
I graduated UCLA with a degree in philosophy & have studied law (as well as medicine) as part of my education as an insurance claims/fraud investigator for over 12 years.
But, as far as useful information goes, the education and research I have done on my own has been AT LEAST as valuable to me as the formal education I have received.
In other words, reading, assimilating, and utilizing valuable information is *not* restricted to anyone and does *not* only come from within the walls of an established institution.
With intelligent use of one's time, books, the internet ... as well as the key people in one's life ... a person should be continually educating himself until the last breath of life leaves him.
Jack
tasoschatz
12-28-2013, 04:56 AM
The most important lesson I got from my post graduate studies was the education in methodology of searching and evaluating information, which in today's internet accessible by everybody fast info world, is my top tool.
Well said. Like everything bulldog, and most everything in life there are differing opinions, so one would have to define 'educated'.
I work in the pharmaceutical industry myself, after time in the military and with a college degree I work with people from some of the most prestigious engineering schools from around the world. All are educated. Lots are educators to the educated. Most are extremely intelligent, IQ's and back grounds out of this world. And with that, some I wonder how they find their way to and from work everyday.
I once worked for a molecular engineer/molecular research scientist who pretty much summed it up as an education, at any level, is only as good as it is used. Just about anybody can go to a school memorize what someone else accomplished, repeat in orally or in text, and then receive a degree. it is the application of said knowledge that determines the value of that education.
He was from upstate New York. He was an Ivy league guy. He was a Rhodes Scholar. He went on a fishing outing down here with us and I had to show him everything. He could break the fish down to its molecular levels but he could not cast a rod, clean or fry fish. Still educated though.
It is all application. Who would one choose to condition his hound a noted canine sports scientist or Don Mayfield?
My pops dropped out of high school, went to work and then onto the Army in the late 60's. He came home with an education that no school can provide. Much the same as the young men and women returning from the middle east today. There is no school to prepare them nor no school that can return them to what they once were. But they have an education. My pops farmed, was in construction, a mechanic, a plumber, an electrician, a welder, all the things that make a farm and house go...he was as educated and versed as anyone.
Some say his schooling ended in the tenth grade, some would say it began when the other form ended. All opinion. All about application.
With that said, I am not knocking collegiate academia because it will open doors like nothing else. Once that door is opened it is what one chooses to do that matters. EWO
I graduated UCLA with a degree in philosophy & have studied law (as well as medicine) as part of my education as an insurance claims/fraud investigator for over 12 years.
But, as far as useful information goes, the education and research I have done on my own has been AT LEAST as valuable to me as the formal education I have received.
In other words, reading, assimilating, and utilizing valuable information is *not* restricted to anyone and does *not* only come from within the walls of an established institution.
With intelligent use of one's time, books, the internet ... as well as the key people in one's life ... a person should be continually educating himself until the last breath of life leaves him.
Jack
Officially Retired
12-28-2013, 05:20 AM
Well said. Like everything bulldog, and most everything in life there are differing opinions, so one would have to define 'educated'.
I work in the pharmaceutical industry myself, after time in the military and with a college degree I work with people from some of the most prestigious engineering schools from around the world. All are educated. Lots are educators to the educated. Most are extremely intelligent, IQ's and back grounds out of this world. And with that, some I wonder how they find their way to and from work everyday.
I once worked for a molecular engineer/molecular research scientist who pretty much summed it up as an education, at any level, is only as good as it is used. Just about anybody can go to a school memorize what someone else accomplished, repeat in orally or in text, and then receive a degree. it is the application of said knowledge that determines the value of that education.
He was from upstate New York. He was an Ivy league guy. He was a Rhodes Scholar. He went on a fishing outing down here with us and I had to show him everything. He could break the fish down to its molecular levels but he could not cast a rod, clean or fry fish. Still educated though.
It is all application. Who would one choose to condition his hound a noted canine sports scientist or Don Mayfield?
My pops dropped out of high school, went to work and then onto the Army in the late 60's. He came home with an education that no school can provide. Much the same as the young men and women returning from the middle east today. There is no school to prepare them nor no school that can return them to what they once were. But they have an education. My pops farmed, was in construction, a mechanic, a plumber, an electrician, a welder, all the things that make a farm and house go...he was as educated and versed as anyone.
Some say his schooling ended in the tenth grade, some would say it began when the other form ended. All opinion. All about application.
With that said, I am not knocking collegiate academia because it will open doors like nothing else. Once that door is opened it is what one chooses to do that matters. EWO
Standing ovation :appl:
Well said, EWO, fantastic.
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No Quarter Kennel
12-28-2013, 10:26 AM
Very impressed. I finished High School and went straight to work with Southern Bell. Today is now back to AT&T. Did 6 years in the Navy and 12 years in the National Guards. 31 years total with Bell South, later renamed AT&T.
Was able to retire and draw my full pension at 49 years old. Will be 64 years old this coming May. No degree per say but watched my finances, did not have to work myself to death for Da Man. Have several grand's that have college degrees or working on one.
You fellows have any ideas to what will pull our country out of this looming debt and possible collapse of our monetary system. Paper money with no substantial backing will go only so far. Seems half of our country is working for the other half. Cheers
Simple - spend within your means.
Been living debt free for about 6 years now. Unbelievable power comes with not being indebted to anything
Well said NQK. That is how I was able to fully retire at such a young age. I did do some part time work till I started drawing my S.S. at 62 years old. To just sit around a house everyday can get boring.
Margaret Thatcher once said that Socialist type governments work just fine till you run out of the other guys money. LOL I fear the greed of our Politicians and the miss information from the Cable TV's and internet. Has this newer generation thinking the Government will take care of them. From the grave to the cradle. With no real effort or sacrifice on their part. Cheers
scratchin dog
12-29-2013, 03:10 PM
I have a BFA from one of the best art schools in the country. The School Of Visual Arts in NYC.
No Quarter Kennel
12-30-2013, 09:07 AM
Well said NQK. That is how I was able to fully retire at such a young age. I did do some part time work till I started drawing my S.S. at 62 years old. To just sit around a house everyday can get boring.
Margaret Thatcher once said that Socialist type governments work just fine till you run out of the other guys money. LOL I fear the greed of our Politicians and the miss information from the Cable TV's and internet. Has this newer generation thinking the Government will take care of them. From the grave to the cradle. With no real effort or sacrifice on their part. Cheers
Yes sir, our "leaders" are killing our country. American used to be something very game and noble. Typical American these days is a notch above gutter trash parasite.
CRISIS
12-30-2013, 11:28 AM
high school dropout........ guess im a dumb redneck....LOL
GEAUX TIGERS
12-30-2013, 12:48 PM
I have a master's degree (4.0 GPA) and 2 bachelor's degrees and I cant clean or fry fish. LOL
Officially Retired
12-30-2013, 03:41 PM
LMAO @ the last two :mrgreen:
MEAUXTIVATION
01-01-2014, 03:53 PM
I have a bachelor's degree in Small Business/Entrepreneurship. I'm just a yardboy, haven't reached that dogman status yet. Lol.
high school dropout........ guess im a dumb redneck....LOL
Lol...don't know if I would say that. My grandfather didn't make it past the 6th grade & was one of the smartest men I ever known. He worked the fields up & down California, owned his own bar, became a general contractor, & real estate investor. Before he past, he had more than 35 rental properties (self-financed)...he too believed in living debt free. He always referred to credit cards as "the mark of the beast."
Cleaning and frying fish is an easy education to attain, on the other hand catching them (without telling the fish tales) is another education all by itself. LOL.
There are just so many forms of education and the word 'educated' can be defined a million different ways depending on the topic at hand. EWO
I have a master's degree (4.0 GPA) and 2 bachelor's degrees and I cant clean or fry fish. LOL
hogdog
01-14-2014, 05:13 PM
I'm graduating from the University of Miami this May with a Major in Psychology and a minor in Sociology.
kandyman
01-15-2014, 10:46 AM
Im just a few credits shy of bachelors in psyc and criminal justice. After years in school, I decided that I wasn't comfortable in an office enviroment. I am very intelligent but that is only partially due to my education. The most important thing I learned in college was how to think for myself. I wont say that wouldnt have happened without college, but it happened at that time.
CYJ, I love to hear you old retirees talk about the old MaBell days. I recently transferred into BS from SWB. At&t management is something else. The new company motto is... "I can't help you, please hold while I transfer your call."
Limey Kennels
01-21-2014, 09:06 AM
I dont even whant to start!! hahahahaa
stopem
01-26-2014, 04:13 PM
devry university grad, major in electric engineering and minor in math. dont work in either field though. i own an insurance company and a hot shot transport business.
Yardboyz
01-27-2014, 04:51 AM
I have a bachelor's degree in Small Business/Entrepreneurship. I'm just a yardboy, haven't reached that dogman status yet. Lol.
Lol we're one and the same. I'm working on switching my major from nursing to biology, I want to be a veterinarian. Wish me luck guys.
wrknapbt
01-27-2014, 12:31 PM
No degrees just certs in different fields of IT. I work as a IT Security for a federal agency
BONEDADDY
01-27-2014, 01:19 PM
No degrees just certs in different fields of IT. I work as a IT Security for a federal agency
That's what my next Mater's is in (Information Security). Uncle Sam foots the bill and puts a little extra in the pocket.
wrknapbt
01-30-2014, 08:25 AM
That's what my next Mater's is in (Information Security). Uncle Sam foots the bill and puts a little extra in the pocket.
I am moving into Cyber Security in the next few years. Feel a need to grow in a different direction
bently
02-16-2014, 05:50 AM
I attending Howard university out of high school, after getting my bachelors in science for nursing I transferred to Morehouse to obtain a masters in psychology but didn't finish. I ended up going to PA school which I had a career in for 7 years. I moved back home to take care of my mother and now I work for P&G.
Pit Bull Committed
02-28-2014, 06:39 AM
I'm very glad to see that most people on this forum are well educated and most importantly are also very respectful. This is the first forum I've seen that makes an uneducated low life or thug stand out like a sore thumb when they come here to post something.
Sadly, I got my bachelor's degree in law enforcement. I wanted to be a cop back then but found out it wasn't what I wanted to do. I didn't want a job that would follow me everywhere I go 24/7. Plus it didn't make any sense for me to enforce laws on others that I would break myself. I didn't want to be a hypocrite like 99.9% of the cops out there. Wasted 4 years and money on that useless degree but it did helped give me the brains I have today. Now I'm in the real estate business and I can't complain about it. My life is now surrounded by positive people with big goals and dreams. Life so far is good! :)
How I got into dog???...Well, let's just say this...I was raised up exposed to bull fighting, buffalo fighting, cock fighting, insect fighting, etc...so I always had a thing for animal combat! I had hunting dogs before I owned my first game dog. I got my first pit bull to catch wild hogs and to run him with my other hunting dogs but things didn't turned out like how I planned when my pit bull turned 5 month old. He became greedy and started turning onto his pack members...so I got rid of all my hunting dogs and kept him and my journey started from there.
Officially Retired
02-28-2014, 07:27 AM
A law enforcement background is good to know where you stand ... and there are a lot of cops into the dogs actually.
Hollingsworth was a sheriff ... Jesse Rods was a state trooper ... Norman Hooten was a sheriff I believe ... Jim Volland was a cop ... and Jack Kelly was also a cop.
Don't forget, dog matches also used to be reported in The Police Gazette ... so there is a lot of history with these dogs being associated with cops.
Jack
CrazyRed
02-28-2014, 08:25 AM
Yup, dont forget the boys of some the Tonka dogs fame.. Skipper & Co they were officers of the law as well.
Ransack
06-24-2014, 02:15 AM
I'm late but i have a BS in Accounting and a MBA. Sad part is I hate working in an office.
widerange
06-24-2014, 06:31 AM
I studied two yrs at a private college that was close to home and studied education. After that I went on to USC to stud psychology. My wife has the same degree but is going after her masters right now and I'm thinking about going back also
sofkennels
06-24-2014, 10:05 AM
I own 3 businesses and I work as a full time engineer. Had plenty of education and hearing their thoughts on bulldog owners is about as wrong as it gets in my opinion
younglion
06-24-2014, 08:22 PM
Just walked the stage this year received my Bachelors of religious studies from LU. Had to start over because my first associate degree was from an unaccredited institution. Still in school at this time and I am always learning and trying to apply what I can where I can. But honestly having served in two branches of armed service , working as a behavior assistant for trouble teens, being a chaplain at 21 , and other life experiences have enriched me more than the colleges I have studied at. Today my wife and I homeschool our children and I still try to remain teachable. I am drawn to this site because it was developed by one who proves the stigma about the owners of our breed to be unfounded and outright foolish.
steinlin
06-28-2014, 02:25 PM
A law enforcement background is good to know where you stand ... and there are a lot of cops into the dogs actually.
Hollingsworth was a sheriff ... Jesse Rods was a state trooper ... Norman Hooten was a sheriff I believe ... Jim Volland was a cop ... and Jack Kelly was also a cop.
Don't forget, dog matches also used to be reported in The Police Gazette ... so there is a lot of history with these dogs being associated with cops.
Jack
The great Jim Williams...also a sheriff
Smokey
07-05-2014, 01:26 AM
"Mechanical Engineer Degree In Oil & Gas Field"
bulldoghistorian
07-10-2014, 08:54 AM
I hold 2 degrees , only reached my Phd in dogs tough
Palooka
08-02-2014, 10:30 AM
left school at 15 with nothing ! been smart enough to make a living, always working for myself, that's educated enough for me.
evolutionkennels
08-02-2014, 11:35 AM
left school at 15 with nothing ! been smart enough to make a living, always working for myself, that's educated enough for me.
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