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widerange
06-25-2014, 07:17 AM
Alright now this may turn out to be the worst plan I ever had or something may come of it and help me out. So I live in redboy country. Most of you I'm sure can even guess what state I'm in by that one comment. With that everyone likes heavy redboy or 50/50 crosses. My view on that is you can't be the best with someone everyone has. But here is my problem I am not a breeder. I have used the production info here to the best of my own ability along with other sources of info. Here is some of the stock I feed right now

Outlaw http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=8166
- he is a soild build dog, high pray drive with a 6 mouth. The bad he likes style/skills to stay out of trouble so he was schooled done well but both sir/dam passed and he was put to brood by his owner before me and I keep it that way

Lexi http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=39523
Small female with mouth like a dog twice her size. This little girl shocked me, She is smart as a whip. She is a head dog and I thought her to be a one trick pony until her second class where she worked the rear end to work back into her spot with class. I have her littermate brother that has the same traits but string as a ox. Lexi set back her weight. It's hard to find many at her weight in this area, and her rear end and neck lacks strength even with work. The littermate has a overbite that I think effects his mouth at times and he often is so wide open and lacks natural air so he slows early

Lil jade http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=3838
1x :36 I have heard her called smart but I think she is faster then she is smart. Mouth is a 5 but if she gets in hold she is there. Works good on feet or off them. No pups off her cause she isnt a great mother.
I have a littermate sister that is longer/taller in build. Mouth is better no pups cause her heat cycle isn't steady and often hard to tell if she is in or not

So that's my main stock the good the bad and ugly. I know often not knowing the dogs you can't tell a lot so I tried to be honest about them and willing to cover anything else if needed. My question is this with these dogs styles, traits, bloodlines, ect.... What direction would you take them in a breeding program to produce proformance that can produce high percentages it's self. Clearly this has no wrong or right answer. Just open to see what y'all think to help me learn and maybe see things from a different
view. I would like to thank everyone for reading and for any suggestions you may have.

CrazyRed
06-27-2014, 07:34 AM
Well honestly like you said without seeing them it's hard to tell what the dogs are but I will take your honesty and try to apply. I do have 1 question which is typically important to me whenever I go to do a breeding or decide a dog is worth breeding, how are the litters as a whole? I noticed you had a brother to lexi and a sister to Lil Jade. Are they the only ones off the breeding or just the ones you can get information on?

I know many folks start with just dogs who might be average across the board or have some great qualities here or there but if they satisfy you then nothing else matters. Now if you're looking for high % you mean high gameness % or high winning %? There is only 1 way to obtain winning % and that is to get them out there into hands (or yourself of course) to see how they fare against the rest of the world.

If the % of the rest of the litter isn't that good, then I would just hope they are honest hounds and try something in the family that is producing high % dogs with the qualities you admire. I was told by a man that most litters go back to the average of the line, so why not make the average of the line, above average which is certainly obtainable with good schooling, good culling and honest work.

Now are you looking to breed to retool your own army and see what they are producing or are you looking for something specific? You trying to add some mouth, some strength or a specific style? Are you trying to make a family around the peds you posted or is there a linebreeding program around them? You looking to stay within the dogs in your ped or you want total outcross?