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Mudville
07-26-2014, 11:02 AM
New to the board. Heard lot's of good things about the database and features I had to give it a shot. Looking foward to interesting debates, info, and opinions. So many ways to skin a cat. Been lurking about a wk or so watching videos on how to use the board and such. First posts today and I hope to keep the ball rolling. I have Butcherboy, Butcherboy/ Bolio/Skull, Maloney/Tombstone, Gonner/Indian/Maloney, Tab/Frank White/Barracuda dogs. Plus I have my fingers crossed my brood gyp took. If so I'll soon have Butcherboy/ Leonard/Cardenas crossed pups.
Officially Retired
07-26-2014, 12:12 PM
Welcome aboard, and a sincere thank you for actually watching the videos/tutorials before adding dogs. That's a big help.
Enjoy,
Jack
Mudville
07-26-2014, 10:13 PM
No prob. By seeing the pedigrees down of this datbase from
the people who use it I was intrigued. Who doesn't like opening and playing with their new toy. Though I figured it's better for myself in the long run if I take some time and get things right the first time.
Long run.
brokeback
07-27-2014, 09:27 AM
What's up MUDD!
Mudville
07-27-2014, 03:29 PM
You know me bro, same shit different boxers, lol. Always good to see some familiar handles.
scratchin dog
07-27-2014, 08:05 PM
Welcome aboard!
brokeback
07-28-2014, 06:35 AM
Yesir, good to see you over here!
CRISIS
07-28-2014, 06:55 AM
glad you made it over here my friend...... this database shits on the others....
evolutionkennels
07-28-2014, 07:37 AM
New to the board. Heard lot's of good things about the database and features I had to give it a shot. Looking foward to interesting debates, info, and opinions. So many ways to skin a cat. Been lurking about a wk or so watching videos on how to use the board and such. First posts today and I hope to keep the ball rolling. I have Butcherboy, Butcherboy/ Bolio/Skull, Maloney/Tombstone, Gonner/Indian/Maloney, Tab/Frank White/Barracuda dogs. Plus I have my fingers crossed my brood gyp took. If so I'll soon have Butcherboy/ Leonard/Cardenas crossed pups.
What gonner dogs?
bulldoghistorian
07-28-2014, 10:23 AM
butcherboy/leanord , is that lg to that mr k stuff
always wondered how that would work
Mudville
07-28-2014, 11:21 AM
Welcome aboard!
Thx for the welcome Scratching Dog. I was out of the dogs a few yrs, lot's has changed , and many of the crowd that was around in 05 when I started is no longer around anymore. Good to see your still around doing your thing.
Mudville
07-28-2014, 11:21 AM
Yesir, good to see you over here!
Same to you.
Mudville
07-28-2014, 11:25 AM
glad you made it over here my friend...... this database shits on the others.... Yeah bro, I'm starting to see that. So used to fedsonline that I still haven't tried to enter a hound yet. I can see that this is going to be one of my go to tools. Just started my foundation breedings so it's one I need. Good lookin on the referral.
Mudville
07-28-2014, 11:28 AM
What gonner dogs?
Haven't entered any hounds in the database yet. She's on peds, or you can google her under Mudville's Misty D Kay.
Mudville
07-28-2014, 02:13 PM
butcherboy/leanord , is that lg to that mr k stuff
always wondered how that would work
No sir, it isn't & I've also wondered the same thing. I do know that the LG/Tucker has been done.If I remember correctly they're looking promising. But don't quote me yet.
As for my Butcherboy gyp, she is down from a McCool's/Coy cross. Now that I have access to both LG & Leonard hounds it may be something cooked up here in the future. Btw I like my LG stuff heavier Trouble or Jacoby due to the Emile.
bulldoghistorian
07-28-2014, 10:35 PM
couple of years ago I imported two out of lacefield troubleson
I also had stuff from jacoby . I didnt had luck with em , the ones of troubleson has health issues as well.
still interested in getting some in the future
Mudville
07-28-2014, 11:49 PM
I've never tried any Lacefields blood. Got a buddy in Tx that tried it and moved onto the LG stock. Just curious what were the health issues. I know the Lunsford dogs are known for throwing blind ones. But from what I hear, most of those ones will tear into your ass, lol.
Yeah Tucker dogs throw those blind and cold dogs too. Rascal was blind partially and loss that way I was told. Shirley and Miss Red were cold along with Crybaby and another male who is blind and cold off her and had a blind sister. We talked about that cold male the other night you me and Steely. Them tight bred carver dogs got something going on genetically. I believe they say it started with Tarbaby in the back of those dogs. Also heard Jacoby wasn't bred as said but off One Eyed Rick. Not sure how true that is though. Heard a couple here say it and saw Bulldoghistorian mention it. I've been on other boards with him and know he is very knowledgeable and respected. Crazy thing is with all that said they have still performed solid crossed and straight. Just probably not at the highest degree.
bulldoghistorian
07-29-2014, 11:04 AM
let me try to give a summary of what I had
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=18019 ( cold bitch ended up giving her away as a pet as she had was full of erlichia , babesia , leishmania and that other stuff)
2 off him http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=39283 bred to a duaghter of dsk wiggles
1 male turned blind , got rid of em , female I gave to massive attack she got bred to a son of jacoby , half the litter was blind and several dropped dead as pups
I also had one linebred Jacoby bitch
also had on my yard for over a year this gyp http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=27105
made this breeding http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=40768
all in all not much luck , don't know what I am doing wrong
maybe didn't get the right ones
Mudville
07-29-2014, 02:49 PM
Yeah Tucker dogs throw those blind and cold dogs too. Rascal was blind partially and loss that way I was told. Shirley and Miss Red were cold along with Crybaby and another male who is blind and cold off her and had a blind sister. We talked about that cold male the other night you me and Steely. Them tight bred carver dogs got something going on genetically. I believe they say it started with Tarbaby in the back of those dogs. Also heard Jacoby wasn't bred as said but off One Eyed Rick. Not sure how true that is though. Heard a couple here say it and saw Bulldoghistorian mention it. I've been on other boards with him and know he is very knowledgeable and respected. Crazy thing is with all that said they have still performed solid crossed and straight. Just probably not at the highest degree.
Yessir, I remember the convo, and you were right. The one I was looking into was down from the blind winner. Was also offered a Tucker bred stud, or something off him bred to the Dam of my gyp. I'll send the link, maybe you can do me a favor and see if you find any weak links in it. It would be appreciated greatly.
Never heard that about Jacoby, but then again it's been yrs since I was in that loop.
Also, again your correct. Something's I noticed quickly about Bulldog Historian was that he seemed to be knowledgeable and reasonable from his posts. I love talking dogs, especially these strains of this particular family. So I hope this convo continues
Mudville
07-29-2014, 03:11 PM
let me try to give a summary of what I had
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=18019 ( cold bitch ended up giving her away as a pet as she had was full of erlichia , babesia , leishmania and that other stuff)
2 off him http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=39283 bred to a duaghter of dsk wiggles
1 male turned blind , got rid of em , female I gave to massive attack she got bred to a son of jacoby , half the litter was blind and several dropped dead as pups
I also had one linebred Jacoby bitch
also had on my yard for over a year this gyp http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=27105
made this breeding http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=40768
all in all not much luck , don't know what I am doing wrong
maybe didn't get the right ones
All I can say to that is DAYUM! Seems like lots of time, effort, thoughts, and dollars out the window. One thing I will say is I'm glad to see you haven't given up on the family and are willing to try it out still. Were there any that stood out and or made standard, or was it all a total wash?
That's family man is just littered with defects but I can't lie them Tucker dogs even with all that still get it done with all I have asked. I was so temped to breed this cold male. I think its Carver dogs period bred down from the Butch boy Tar baby stuff. They still have so much to give. I have an interest in breeding as strong a family as clean as possible with good consistency threw out litters. Those are not for me but damn the good stuff I hear smh. Lol I'm just being honest and I have it tight and right and will not breed him. I hope he gets bred and produces great where he is going.
evolutionkennels
07-29-2014, 07:20 PM
why wouldn't you start fresh with solid healthy structurally sound bulldogs from a proven family with winning dogs as close as possible?
Sounds like the best option to me evo. I agree, that's why I'm sending the one I have where he is wanted.
bulldoghistorian
07-29-2014, 10:48 PM
All I can say to that is DAYUM! Seems like lots of time, effort, thoughts, and dollars out the window. One thing I will say is I'm glad to see you haven't given up on the family and are willing to try it out still. Were there any that stood out and or made standard, or was it all a total wash?
Reason I got them is the original one I had , she produced tons of good ones http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=10128
she was imported back in 98
dont know if you recall the time in the early 90's it seemed like these dogs couldn't loose
there was this magazine face your dogs which had several shows of coy , LG and others winning show after show
that and a conversation with a guy called Hersh put me on this blood
the rest got here like 4 years ago.
I only have one male left with some of the later stuff in it and basically decided to stick with my own
I work with a small yard, every litter needs to have winners they need to be healthy , otherwise I am wasting valuable space and time.
No Quarter Kennel
07-30-2014, 08:27 AM
why wouldn't you start fresh with solid healthy structurally sound bulldogs from a proven family with winning dogs as close as possible?
Exactly. Can't say I've always done this, but when I researched this line after seeing and hearing about so many good ones, I found common denominators from good one to good one. The main thing they had in common was the men behind them. Narrowed that down. Got a great structured animal directly off of an extremely game individual (47 scratches in 2 losses). Incredibly well put together and solid animal in every way. As are his littermates. As where his parents, etc.
Pockets of every blood are different. Get ones from the right source.
TL and WillyPete are damn good dudes and know those dogs very well. I told my buddy that's a good source to start with. Did you cross Palomino with the Honey bitch you got from Eraser, Ferg
has any one here ever had any experience with any young's bad man or Lacefiled's preacher ? And what are you thoughts?