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AlbinoRhino
05-19-2015, 09:38 PM
Jack , I read on a Coondog message board that a particular big name breeder with YERS of breeding behind him was sharing I little secret tip on how he's been shaving years off his breeding / evaluation of big game hunting offspring and far less ware and tear on his brood bitches , was to collect from TWO STUD Dogs at the same time using one syringe !?! His practice is that of breeding Majestic Hounds ( Bloodhound x Coonhound ) So the dam is a Bloodhound , and the sires would be say , a Blue Tick and a Red Bone so he'd know what cross belonged to what sire. Now he was absolutely serious in his writing this , I'm just trying to take this in.... Is this even possible ? Even so ,I don't think it would be practical with the bulldogs , as there are far less identification marks as apposed to the uniform markings on Coondogs . What's your thoughts ? ( all join in )Thanks.

Officially Retired
05-19-2015, 10:23 PM
Jack , I read on a Coondog message board that a particular big name breeder with YERS of breeding behind him was sharing I little secret tip on how he's been shaving years off his breeding / evaluation of big game hunting offspring and far less ware and tear on his brood bitches , was to collect from TWO STUD Dogs at the same time using one syringe !?! His practice is that of breeding Majestic Hounds ( Bloodhound x Coonhound ) So the dam is a Bloodhound , and the sires would be say , a Blue Tick and a Red Bone so he'd know what cross belonged to what sire. Now he was absolutely serious in his writing this , I'm just trying to take this in.... Is this even possible ? Even so ,I don't think it would be practical with the bulldogs , as there are far less identification marks as apposed to the uniform markings on Coondogs . What's your thoughts ? ( all join in )Thanks.

Sure, it's possible.

With bulldogs, you would need a DNA test to tell "who's who" (unless one is a pure red/rednose and one is a pure black/blacknose dominant), but it could be done.

Keep in mind, though, semen is antagonistic to other semen, so filling a bitch with two loads can cancel each other out at times ...

Jack

AlbinoRhino
05-19-2015, 11:00 PM
Jack thanks .....this guy mixed the two collections into one syringe ..... I'm assuming he filled her once with the mixed load ...Have you tried this , or know others that have ?

AlbinoRhino
05-19-2015, 11:03 PM
Wait , reread you post ....so EVEN THO the one syringe is mixed with two collections , there are times only one sire could show up !? Correct ?

Officially Retired
05-20-2015, 08:23 AM
Wait , reread you post ....so EVEN THO the one syringe is mixed with two collections , there are times only one sire could show up !? Correct ?

Correct.

Case in point: I once bred Screamer (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=221) to two different studs at the same time: Gr Ch Sparky (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2665) and Ch Stormbringer (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=211).

I knew that the ONLY color dog Sparky could throw was black/black nose, because he was a pure, black/black dominant dog. Every pup in every litter he ever threw was black.

By contrast, Stormbringer was a recessive red/rednose and so the ONLY colors I could get from him and Screamer would either be red/rednoses (if Screamer passed her recessive rednose genes) or buckskin (if she passed her dominant buckskin/black nose genes).

Because of the antagonism of the semen, there was only ONE pup, Vise-Grip's Pantera (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=10879), and because she came out black/black nose there was NO DOUBT that she was sired by Gr Ch Sparky.

Jack

dtakennels
05-20-2015, 09:25 AM
This has been done in the Beagles for years.....The AKC will also register the pups off of both sires as well....With a DNA test of course.....

AlbinoRhino
05-20-2015, 12:22 PM
Interesting ..... very interesting.