OVERSEAS Transport????????

[ScratchAndGO]

I have a couple going to Turkey. Anyone have some pointers/info they would like to share. It would be greatly appreciated.
Also receiving the cash is a problem. Western Union is available but trying to fly under the radar. Any suggestions? Have a good one and Thanks.

YIS,
Eric

This is going across the water. Pretty happy with the parents.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_breedings_test.php?sire_id=53347&dam_id=39838

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_breedings_profile.php?breeding_id=7590

[Nut]

There's not much better options than Western Union. Do stay under 2000$. Make 2 transactions if its more and just to be safe; one on the end of the month and the other start of next month.

[BRICKFACE]

Do you have a transporter? Or are you making the arrangements yourself?

[ScratchAndGO]

Trying to make them myself. (pretty complicated at first glance)
I did call a transport company. Said about $3000 for three pups. Dude in Turkey was figuring $3500. Any suggestions on a decent/reasonably priced transporter. May just call them back. It's turning into a pain to deal with.

[Rainman]

I just imported one dog from States to EU-country. The best and cheapest way would be if the buyer will travel and bring the dogs home himself.
I paid 430€ for flights, $120 for dog's flight, $300 vet and USDA costs plus crate.
EU countries should have similar requirements when importing animals but Turkey is not one of them. So hopefully the buyer knows their requirements in Turkey.

[tasoschatz]

My guess is that Turkey is more flexible than eu Countries, some tip n here and there would solve problems, I think.

[Nut]

A friend from Holland is sending a dog to turkey right now and I've checked the requirements for them. Its a lot of headache. The dog need a rabies blood test at least 3 months before travel. This means. You vaccinate your pups for rabbies at 3 months old. You can do a bloodtest when they are 4 months old. And they wont be allowed to travel untill they are 7 months old.

[Rainman]

And propably you need to find nationally accredited veterian who makes the health certificate and then you go to USDA office to stamp the papers.
Remember make sure that rabies vaccination is approved in destination country, and the microchip can be readed by scanners they use in Turkey.

Things need to be correct.

[BRICKFACE]

Trying to make them myself. (pretty complicated at first glance)
I did call a transport company. Said about $3000 for three pups. Dude in Turkey was figuring $3500. Any suggestions on a decent/reasonably priced transporter. May just call them back. It's turning into a pain to deal with.ADAWG is the best for international transportation. It's his niche

[bulldoghistorian]

there are many ways to do things
best way is personal transport there are some guys doing it now

for turkey send to eu and than drive across to turkey
I have just send dogs to USA and turkey just need to find a way to bend the rules

[ScratchAndGO]

That is ultimately what the guy is doing. His friend is flying over and picking them up. Thanks for the feedback.

Eric

[Lasse]

Hello Eric,

there are a lot of rules to follow when shipping a dog from the U.S. to Europe as well as to Turkey, which is halfway European mainland and halfway Asia.
Also the rules are different for adult dogs and puppies. Puppies have to be at least three months old other than that they are not eligible for having their rabies shot which has to be given at least 21 days prior to date of shipping. I can remember there also was this 24 hours deadline but I can't remember excactly what it was about. I guess it was for the signing of the USDA Health Certificate but I am not 100 percent sure. Yes, it is that what the 24 hours deadline was about. I remember everything now. The time span from the signing of the documents until the check-in for the dog (air-freight) wasn't allowed to exceed 24 hours. Also keep in mind that you will need the USDA Health Certificate to be filled out once in English and once in the language of the destination (country).
I would by all means make sure that you know about it all before the guys from Turkey come to pick up the dog(s) better yet, before they even going to book a flight. Not that they can't leave because a term wasn't kept. I looked around for you a little and I suggest you check the following links. What I noticed immediately was when you choose Turkey as a destination it said "requirements not known".

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalhealth/export
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/pet-travel
(https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/pet-travel)https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalhealth/export/iregs-for-animal-exports

You can also contact USDA for further information here https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/banner/contactus or better yet, "If you have any questions or concerns regarding these regulations for exporting animals or animal products to a foreign country, you should contact the Veterinary Services service center here https://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_health/downloads/nies_contacts/sc.pdf in the State from which the animals or products will be exported."

As Bulldoghistorian suggested maybe it's better to have the dog sent to a European Country and have the Turkey guys pick up the dog from there and take over the boarder themselves by car. BUT since the refugee crisis boarders maybe closed or they will also need to have a dog passport to bring the dog to Turkey. Also travelling with a dog within Europe is only legal when having a EU-Passport for the dog. If you get caught without it the dogs can and will be in most cases be taken. So in case you ship the dogs to a European country I guess I would make sure to ship the dog(s) to a European Country adjoining Turkey. People are financially poorer over there and maybe a tip will help in case some regulations aren't met.

Please let us know how and when your done shipping the dogs. It can be of help to others in the future and I can't deny the fact that myself is interested in how you will have finally got it done.

Regards,
Lasse

p.s. tell the guys to book a direct flight if possible otherwise they will have to pay for accommodation for the dog(s) in between the flights.

[ScratchAndGO]

Thank you very much for the information and your suggestions. This is turning into a royal pain.
Will check into the adjoining County route. Once again thanks and I will definitely keep this thread updated.

[bulldoghistorian]

Thank you very much for the information and your suggestions. This is turning into a royal pain.
Will check into the adjoining County route. Once again thanks and I will definitely keep this thread updated.

HUGE ADVICE ( capital letters so I am screaming )
turkey is different , if the dog lands in turkey with the thousands of papers needed it will get culled
go to your vet and insist he uses the EU ( European union ) certificate , send the dog to the nearest country to turkey and drive him across the border
I have spend hours at the Turkish embassy for a lot of bullshit papers that were not valid and in the end some guy picked up hand customs some cheese and that was it

reminds me of a story at the border of Serbia back in the 90's

[Rainman]

Has anyone shipped dogs lately from USA to EU??

[BRICKFACE]

ADawg does international

[Rainman]

Is he a member on board?
I'm looking for prices on shipping a pup as a cargo.