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Misfit
05-24-2017, 03:10 PM
I have a question for the community. Is it okay to post pictures of Bulldogs on social media sites suck as Facebook and InstaGram? I know a guy who posts pics of his hounds on his instagram page. I mean if that's what he wants to do, that's his right. He also posts pics of Bulldogs that belong to working kennels. I'm certain those kennels would not like for their dogs to be viewed by the public like that. I was scrolling through some of his photos, reading comments, and they were not bulldog friendly as I'm sure most of you can imagine. It's already hard for us with PETA and SPCA and other organizations, all these new laws and stuff. Does anyone relate to what I'm saying?
skip11
05-24-2017, 05:43 PM
I don't mind it at all. I post mine on instagram all the time. But then again I'm not in the US. I mean of course it depends on what kind of pictures you're posting. If you're posting 2 dogs snarling at each other really close then it might not be a good idea especially if you're in the US or UK where the laws regarding APBTs are a lot more strict than other countries.
BRICKFACE
05-24-2017, 06:46 PM
Occasionally I will post my dogs on social media, but it's really not my thing
I have a flip phone still, with no internet service, so for me it is a non-issue.
If the internet is the work of the devil, then Social Media would be the spawn children of the devil.
I would lean toward 'not' but that is just me and I would not want someone else posting pictures of my dogs.
I do enough self indictment on here with words, I could only imagine what a few pictures would say.
EWO
BLADE
05-25-2017, 08:58 AM
It's a double edged sword in a sense.. on one hand as long as the pictures are in good taste and not incriminating I don't see a problem with it. Bulldog folks tend to be very proud of what they feed and might want to show a few pictures off for gratification reason's. It's not illegal to own a Bulldog but on the other hand it does sometimes draw unwanted attention by just posting a few pictures.
I also look at it like this.. as long as Dogmen and woman hide from the public it really tends to give the anti-Bulldog folks leverage. It makes it to where their voice and presence is the only one being seen and heard. It's a real shame things have gotten to this point that we even have to have this conversation.
Misfit
05-25-2017, 04:26 PM
Yeah I agree Blade. It just draws too much negative, unwanted attention. For example, dude put up a picture of a breeding he did. But in that picture was a dirty yard and Bulldogs on chains. Nothing wrong with dogs on chains but a dirty yard? Come on...and the comments were just stalraight nasty. "Why are the dogs on chains" "backyard breeder" all types of stuff. If you're gonna put pics of your dogs, at least clean your yard first.
True.
If one has two dogs that will breed with a lead and no excessive restraints the picture may be OK. Clean the yard and use a breeding stand and it is just as bad if not worse.
I guess my issue is that a lot of times people see what they want to see. I may see a well shaped young dog the next guy sees a half starved, neglected dog of a despicable dog fighter.
I'm more of an each his own person so if a person wants to show some dogs on social media, by all means do so. But at the same time there can't be much surprise when there is a knock on the door.
EWO
We live in a time right now where most feel entitled to express their opinions about the next person. It's really always been that way but with the mass delivery of the Internet it can reach and effect far into ones personal life.
I've never seen instagram or twitter, tried Facebook briefly and it's just not for me at all. I like to be private about the way I go through life so those sites totally invade that for me. I get completely infuriated when I get telemarketing calls and during my brief Facebook session I experienced a load of those calls. I never shared my number with them or my actual email addresses but they found them out despite me being careful.
When I was younger I liked to tell people about my dogs in a proud way, now I avoid telling folks at all. When someone can be charged with a crime for having a phone conversation about dog fighting because they own a few dogs without any other evidence....I say your flirting with the devil posting pics of your dogs anywhere. It doesn't matter if you're fighting them or not if you cherish the history you're guilty in today's society.
S_B
I'm with you word for word.
I can remember when I rode up and down the road with these dogs with not a care in the world. Partly it was different times and mostly I was young and dumb.
I may be just lucky because if social media were available when I was a young man I'd have spent time in the clink by now.
My sister on the other hand uses social media to chronicle her day, they tell me almost minute for minute.
We are polar opposites.
EWO
True story. My wife has a facebook account. She read some stuff to me and then walked out of the room with the lap top open. A guy I went to school with was talking suicide on facebook. Good bye cruel world. The whole nine.
From the outside looking in he appears to have it licked. He went to college. He came home and his parents gave him three apartment complexes to manage. In turn he hired a staff. My buddy did some maintenance work for him and he meets with the staff 30 minutes on Mon-Wed-Thurs. Plays golf, travels the rest of the time. Basically never worked a day in his life.
He uses face book suicide to garner attention. I have heard the story a number of times.
I replied via my wife's account that said, "Hey, if you are going to do it the least you can do is go outside and do it on the street curb for an easier clean up. I mean, there is no need to mess up a new piece of carpet because that is all we will be losing. A good piece of commercial berba.
My wife got a couple of likes, and then an outpouring of her being a cold hearted bitch. Then I got an ass chewing from her.
My one and only face book posts proves I am not the type to handle that kind of responsibility.
EWO
Hahahaa!
That poor bastard has it so rough. :shocked:
You said it right when you said he needs attention, that's what I noticed at least 85% of the people I was exposed to used their account to show off or look for pity. So ANNOYING!
I can see the benefits of social media, especially in business as it has basically and endless reach. I'll stay poor and private, just can't sell myself out like that. And the fact that people have actually lost their jobs over a Facebook post is asinine. It just seems like the perfect way for the government and anyone else to study your life as you lob all the info to them.
S_B
I think we are thinking the same.
At a dog show once I met a woman who was anti-government, conspiracy theorists, the grassy knoll, the whole nine. She bought a really nice Dodge 2500 truck to pull her 'rolling dog house'. The arguing point on the deal was the GPS. Of all the things it could do for her what she saw was it was another agent for big brother.
And from there her and her husband are on facebook talking dogs and past adventures with the dogs to other people.
I guess it is better if I sit over here and be out of the loop.
EWO
MEAUXTIVATION
05-27-2017, 05:14 AM
Social media is the new peds online and really has gotten out of hand when it comes to these hogs. If you are not in the UK or USA, have at it and post whatever you want about the sport bc you can't be incriminated. I used to be in all kind of game dog groups and used to post clean pics of my hogs working/etc just to show their beauty. It's been about 3 years since I got out all the game dog groups and I vowed to never post a dog pic or ped on Facebook again just to save myself the trouble of unwanted attention. I use Facebook to stay connected with family/friends and that's it. I don't really want nobody to know that I'm into these hogs bc I know I'm in search of feeding BULLDOGS at the end of the day. I try to stay out of sight and out of mind; and just give positive vibes to the public about the breed. When I see match reports of banged up hogs online, all i do is smh and laugh since what another man eats doesn't make me shit ya know. Lol.
Misfit
05-27-2017, 06:16 AM
I agree Meauxtivation. Like I said dudes can post their own animals on those sites, but don't post someone else's dogs. Those guys are bulldogging and I'm sure they wouldn't want their dogs posted on ig like that
MEAUXTIVATION
05-27-2017, 07:33 AM
I agree Meauxtivation. Like I said dudes can post their own animals on those sites, but don't post someone else's dogs. Those guys are bulldogging and I'm sure they wouldn't want their dogs posted on ig like that
O yea, I feel you on that. The guys that I know that are really serious about the hogs are not on Facebook/IG with it.
This might be my biggest problem with the whole idea of the dogs being on the social medias.
The guy who is not serious about the dogs can post things that adversely effect the guy who is seriously doing the dogs.
I say that as I type on an pretty much open forum. I can see the double standard.
Not my cup of tea but I can't dictate how others handle their business.
Great topic, especially considering times are changing really fast now.
EWO
O yea, I feel you on that. The guys that I know that are really serious about the hogs are not on Facebook/IG with it.
Flexxtron
05-29-2017, 01:58 PM
I'm active on Facebook and Instagram, even in some dog groups, but I'll never post a pic of my own dogs on social media. Not everything needs to be shared to the world, especially something that can get you in trouble no matter how innocent you may be.
Some people call me "fake" because I like my privacy. I figure, if someone needs to see my dogs, they'll have an invitation to visit my yard anyways.
There's some things it's OK to be open about on social media, like what you ate for lunch that day (though your friends may hate you for it, lol). There's other things that, no matter where technology will take us in the next 10, 20, 30 years, should never be shared online.
It's just not worth it. Risk vs. Reward. Risking unwanted attention for some virtual likes? Doesn't make much sense...
Yarddog
06-03-2017, 08:23 AM
I'm active on Facebook and Instagram, even in some dog groups, but I'll never post a pic of my own dogs on social media. Not everything needs to be shared to the world, especially something that can get you in trouble no matter how innocent you may be.
Some people call me "fake" because I like my privacy. I figure, if someone needs to see my dogs, they'll have an invitation to visit my yard anyways.
There's some things it's OK to be open about on social media, like what you ate for lunch that day (though your friends may hate you for it, lol). There's other things that, no matter where technology will take us in the next 10, 20, 30 years, should never be shared online.
It's just not worth it. Risk vs. Reward. Risking unwanted attention for some virtual likes? Doesn't make much sense...
I agree 100%. Risk is high, reward is what..for pride? Even if you don't have anything incriminating in the pics, the mere fact that you have a bulldog is enough to have people in your business causing you grief. You add in the fact that the dog ain't blue, throw in that you have chain setups, multiple dogs, and maybe even a brood pen....your yard looks like the commercial they play when the humane society begs for money. Better to be paranoid imo
The human-iac type-anti bulldog type people are dumbasses on one hand and then not so much on another.
They can read pedigrees and messages boards, maybe even reading this one as I type, in turn the social medias are just one more way the "underground world of dog fighting" (one of my favorite-least favorite phrases) gets exposed.
In a perfect world their would be no connection between me and the guy on social media doing what he has every right to do. The problem it is not a perfect world. Like the above said, all you need is a couple dogs, a couple chains and god forbid a breeding stand, and you are public enemy #1.
But the world is ever changing. I mean kids today can't walk 10 feet without access to the web. Today no story goes unpublished.
But so it goes.
EWO
I was on a job talking with a customer of mine. They were telling me how somewhere over in East Asia where gaming is real big some folks neglected to properly nurish their infant and it died.
My point is technology has a strong hold, it all started with Pong, then Atari now look at us. I say this all while checking this site daily. lol
Social media will only grow, we have to learn to adapt. I'm not a willing participant but I feel in time I'll be almost forced to.
S_B
evolutionkennels
06-25-2017, 02:42 PM
100% Risk 0% reward. I had a facebook page for 5 years. NOTHING but a bunch of tire kickers and haters. Every asshole has on opinion. Any mental midget can post something, and the whole viewing audience takes it s truth. NO THANK YOU. I didn't sell ONE puppy or get ONE stud fee from facebook. I don't need any new "friends." On the contrary, I had to delete and BAN 1000 humaniacs and PETA trolls. That being said, for those posting your EXPLOITS for the world to see.... Good luck with that. You have to be a real loser and have an insecurity problem to be worried about how many likes you get on any given day, or worse, what some dickhead has to say. FUCK THAT!
Evo, slow down and tell us exactly how you feel. LOL
I agree. Two parts. Other than these boards I do not do social media. And two if I did the dogs would be the last thing I would want to discuss.
I guess the closest thing I do is check out the videos in you tube. Put a dog on a treadmill and you are lower than whale shit in the comment section. I see those exchanges so I can only imagine the entries and comments via facebook.
It seems that is the direction things are going.
Evo, How did the white faced Snooty dog turn out?
EWO
:pirate:
https://youtu.be/juQcZO_WnsI
100% Risk 0% reward. I had a facebook page for 5 years. NOTHING but a bunch of tire kickers and haters. Every asshole has on opinion. Any mental midget can post something, and the whole viewing audience takes it s truth. NO THANK YOU. I didn't sell ONE puppy or get ONE stud fee from facebook. I don't need any new "friends." On the contrary, I had to delete and BAN 1000 humaniacs and PETA trolls. That being said, for those posting your EXPLOITS for the world to see.... Good luck with that. You have to be a real loser and have an insecurity problem to be worried about how many likes you get on any given day, or worse, what some dickhead has to say. FUCK THAT!
Sounds like that FB account was nothing but trouble... I don't do anything with social media and very little with forums or other online stuff. After seeing so much stupidity, etc, this is about the only place I even bother to post once in awhile.
Oh and I'd say this breeder would have been better off to not deal with unknown people thru his web site --
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/n-y-man-busted-training-fighting-dogs-article-1.3271118
Some folks get hung up on their sales pitch.
EWO
CrazyRed
06-28-2017, 07:19 AM
Oh and I'd say this breeder would have been better off to not deal with unknown people thru his web site --
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/n-y-man-busted-training-fighting-dogs-article-1.3271118
The sad part is everybody knows he don't do nothing with those dogs at all. They contacted him so he spiced up a story to get a few extra bucks that's all.. Fighting dogs he is innocent, false advertising he might be guilty of.
Sadly, both will get you one of those all expense paid trips.
EWO
evolutionkennels
06-29-2017, 04:10 PM
Oh and I'd say this breeder would have been better off to not deal with unknown people thru his web site --
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/n-y-man-busted-training-fighting-dogs-article-1.3271118
Absolutely bullshit. He never said Those things, he made them sign a contract. His kennel was immaculate, the chances of him saying that are the same as California Jack bring voted nicest guy in the world with worst rhetorical skills. Not gonna happen. Those are lies, and he isn't laying down for it. He'll fight this thing to the death, for him, for all of us.
When it comes to the dogs facts will never land a story on the front page. Hype gets the top billing. Always has been.
EWO