View Full Version : GREAT CROSSES OF YESTERDAY
ROCK-MACHINE
08-21-2019, 12:26 PM
Name some crosses that were exceptional and popular for a time but are almost impossible to find today...
Andy Capp / Gonner is one, as is Alligator / Tonka / Red Baron.
I know of a few camps out there that still run both crosses but none (and with good reason) let anything go to the ''public''.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=647
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=1983
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=834
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=31
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=6421
BLADE
08-21-2019, 06:25 PM
Kemmer x Doucet crosses come to mind. I wouldn't say they were popular because they weren't made available to the general public but it produced Bulldogs. Kemmer's Hank snow would be one example of this cross. Comeaux's Raghead POR was bred to Kemmer's Pocahontas, Pocahontas is another example of the Kemmer x Doucet cross.
Buwaya
08-22-2019, 12:11 AM
Alligator x Sorrells; as this blend was done in the past in the u.s. theres more of this blend being admired across the oceans.
Frank43
08-22-2019, 06:31 AM
Those Tonka Red Baron dogs would be nice. That’s the mentality I like. Are any out there or crossed into other things.
ROCK-MACHINE
08-22-2019, 06:40 AM
While there are a few camps that have maintained the blood in the U.S. it's pretty rare but the cross is thriving in Russia. Other crosses that are working overseas are Tonka / Red Baron / Little Gator and Alligator / Panama Red / Tonka / Red Baron.
Frank43
08-22-2019, 11:59 AM
Are there any old timers to say whether they keep the family traits or only have the name and pedigree
bigpopdog
08-22-2019, 04:40 PM
8), BUT THAT ONE PIC OF RANDY'S GONNER THEY NEED TO DELETE CAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE SHIT, EVENTHOUGH HE STILL GOT MUSCLES YOU CAN STILL TELL HE'S TOO THIN :embarrassed:
He did look rough but I am thinking he was really old in that pic.
But he did look a few pounds shy.
EWO
Milehighmisfit
09-15-2019, 12:45 PM
I was on another forum and came across a Lonzo x Colby cross by TL Weaver that apparently produces winners that l, in turn, produced winners. I believe the dog was Weavers Harley. Also, any cross that contained the Kominski dogs. To my knowledge that line died out.
Milehighmisfit
09-15-2019, 02:42 PM
Here is is Weaver’s Diamond aka Colby’s Diamond
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=21605
ROCK-MACHINE
09-16-2019, 06:47 AM
I was on another forum and came across a Lonzo x Colby cross by TL Weaver that apparently produces winners that l, in turn, produced winners. I believe the dog was Weavers Harley. Also, any cross that contained the Kominski dogs. To my knowledge that line died out.
I've always had a passing interest in Walter Komosinski and his line, I know they were known for being very game and there were rumors that they had English Bull Terrier outs. Ozzie Stevens had a lot of respect for Komosinski and ran some of his blood but to my knowledge no one is running it today crossed or otherwise. When Walter Komosinski's health started to go he had his entire yard euthanized so I'm sure that had a impact on it.
http://canineheritage.weebly.com/walter-komosinski.html
https://i.imgur.com/yvpaxRn.jpg
skip11
09-22-2019, 04:50 AM
If you've read The Real History of the American Staffordshire Terrier by Wayne Brown, almost all APBT have bull terrier blood in them. Dibo has bull terrier blood in him. I highly recommend that book to learn more about the history.
ROCK-MACHINE
09-22-2019, 05:24 AM
If you've read The Real History of the American Staffordshire Terrier by Wayne Brown, almost all APBT have bull terrier blood in them. Dibo has bull terrier blood in him. I highly recommend that book to learn more about the history.
I've seen that book on ebay and have been contemplating getting it but the seller is asking $175 U.S. plus $50 U.S. shipping and that will be a good bit more using my own currency. Still though, I may make an offer and hopefully the seller goes for it.
ROCK-MACHINE
09-26-2019, 04:15 PM
The Maverick/Six Bits cross was extremely popular in the 90's and produced some good ones but you don't find many people working with it today.
True.
A buddy of mine had one named Galil which was out of a brother-sister breeding with Sonny Boy-Jett.
This dog was skull drug and should have been shown.
EWO
BRICKFACE
09-26-2019, 08:58 PM
Here is is Weaver’s Diamond aka Colby’s Diamond
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=21605Lou once told me that his two favorite crosses were Colby x Heinzl then Colby x Eli. I think the old man knew a thing or two
HLC219
01-09-2020, 06:06 AM
Howard Ellis putting that Juicy Lucy bitch, a.k.a. Katen's Malibu, to Rod Kershner's Alligator dogs made straight bulldogs. But unfortunately, like anything else in the wrong hands, shit gets watered down and washed away over time.
Frank43
01-09-2020, 09:48 AM
You can’t keep it