Beware of Boilermaker123 aka Kevin Thomas

[Mordy]

Hey Everybody

Just wanted to warn everyone on doing business with the man who goes by the user name on here of Boilermaker123 aka Kevin Thomas. On 12/14 I paid him in full for 2 frozen breedings off his dog Rodrigo for the amount of $1,500. On that day we texted back and forth and he assured me he would have the straws transferred in my name. Since that day he has refused to answer any calls or texts or PMs from this site. The straws were never transferred to me. Unfortunately I learned this lesson the hard way but wanted to warn anyone of doing business with him in the future .

[S_B]

Hey Everybody

Just wanted to warn everyone on doing business with the man who goes by the user name on here of Boilermaker123 aka Kevin Thomas. On 12/14 I paid him in full for 2 frozen breedings off his dog Rodrigo for the amount of $1,500. On that day we texted back and forth and he assured me he would have the straws transferred in my name. Since that day he has refused to answer any calls or texts or PMs from this site. The straws were never transferred to me. Unfortunately I learned this lesson the hard way but wanted to warn anyone of doing business with him in the future .

You sent him money and he never returned it or sent the semen either?

[Mordy]

You sent him money and he never returned it or sent the semen either? Correct. And surprising since he had seemed pretty cool we had spent a day talking about the dogs and some future breedings he planned. Then he just completely stopped answering. I see he is still posting on the site.

[BLADE]

Off topic but there is a post for RIP S_B yet you are here now? I don't get on here much. What's the deal?

[BRICKFACE]

Mrs SB passed away. Mr SB is is active on the board. They shared the account

[BLADE]

Gotcha. My condolences.

[ceasar]

If you can get in touch with his wife she’ll make it right.
At least that’s what she’s done in the past anyway.
Always some drama with that dude.

[ROCKET_BLAST]

Man that's seriously bad business.

[BLADE]

If you can get in touch with his wife she’ll make it right.
At least that’s what she’s done in the past anyway.
Always some drama with that dude.

It's pretty pathetic that a woman would have to do her man's bidding or to even be put in that situation. Hopefully the original poster gets what he paid for or refunded.

[BRICKFACE]

If this doesn't get worked out, he's getting banned from here. This is no place for thieves! Keep me posted

[Mordy]

Quick update. So far his wife has stepped in and is trying to make things right. Sounds like she has her hands full with him so don't want to make things worse for her. She has been good with communication and things are looking in a positive direction. She will take Rodrigo to get collected when the weather clears up. I'll let you guys know when I get the straws

[brasso]

If this doesn't get worked out, he's getting banned from here. This is no place for thieves! Keep me posted

Nice. Good for you.

[Einstein]

Where is this guy from , I got burned in a semen deal with a guy named Kevin from Alabama , goes by Mac11. These guys are bummy

[apeman]

Where is this guy from , I got burned in a semen deal with a guy named Kevin from Alabama , goes by Mac11. These guys are bummy

Mac 11 is a different fella

[North Strong]

God Bless the old dogman, if you didn't drive down with your bitch to be bred and to see the Male you are breeding to, then it's your fault if your bitch throws you Collies....

Nothing better than hands on. This new dogman with instant gratification, ie buying Ch or Grch for big dollars and then saying he is a dogman is shyt for me as well.
You don't earn it you shouldn't be calling it.
JMHO....as a young one growing into senior yrs..

[North Strong]

Quick update. So far his wife has stepped in and is trying to make things right. Sounds like she has her hands full with him so don't want to make things worse for her. She has been good with communication and things are looking in a positive direction. She will take Rodrigo to get collected when the weather clears up. I'll let you guys know when I get the straws

Willing to bet dollars to donuts, the weather is never going to clean up...

[brasso]

Try to get your money back and forget about it. Otherwise this thing is going to drag on forever. Red flag here is someone selling semen off a dog that hasn't been collected yet.

[ceasar]

Quick update. So far his wife has stepped in and is trying to make things right. Sounds like she has her hands full with him so don't want to make things worse for her. She has been good with communication and things are looking in a positive direction. She will take Rodrigo to get collected when the weather clears up. I'll let you guys know when I get the straws

Willing to bet dollars to donuts, the weather is never going to clean up...
Can never say definitively what the next person will do, but in the past she has been pretty good at cleaning his shit up.
Not going to say what I know about dude but any transactions involving money would have to be face to face and completed that day.

[Mordy]

Try to get your money back and forget about it. Otherwise this thing is going to drag on forever. Red flag here is someone selling semen off a dog that hasn't been collected yet.

Yea unfortunately he had told me he already had the dog collected. I found out from his wife that was a lie. More or less just wanted to warn the community especially PBB. There are a lot of solid folks on here. I've bought straws from some real reputable folks from this site before and transaction was seamless. After this safe to say I'm done with buying anything frozen anymore lol.

[brasso]

Yea unfortunately he had told me he already had the dog collected. I found out from his wife that was a lie. More or less just wanted to warn the community especially PBB. There are a lot of solid folks on here. I've bought straws from some real reputable folks from this site before and transaction was seamless. After this safe to say I'm done with buying anything frozen anymore lol.

I get it, but don't allow this negative event to win. Money comes and goes. Plenty of good folks on here.

[brokeback]

Kevin has a list a mile long of people he has burned on pups and/or semen he claims to have.

[BLADE]

Every time the government gets involved with anything they fuck it up worse than it is. Decent honorable people got away from the dogs because they felt like they couldn't risk losing everything when the chickenshit hypocrite authorities decide to tar & feather you before setting you on fire. Now the dog world is dripping with straight up trash worth less than their animals. Guys that can recite pedigrees and talk the talk but don't have an ounce of honor about them. It's disgusting that these parasites even have a platform (Bulldog fraternity) to associate themselves with. If it wasn't a form of dry snitching and drawing negative attention to innocent people, it would be nice to have a forum that calls these jokers out and puts their fuckery on blast. But unfortunately we don't have that option.

[S_B]

Every time the government gets involved with anything they fuck it up worse than it is. Decent honorable people got away from the dogs because they felt like they couldn't risk losing everything when the chickenshit hypocrite authorities decide to tar & feather you before setting you on fire. Now the dog world is dripping with straight up trash worth less than their animals. Guys that can recite pedigrees and talk the talk but don't have an ounce of honor about them. It's disgusting that these parasites even have a platform (Bulldog fraternity) to associate themselves with. If it wasn't a form of dry snitching and drawing negative attention to innocent people, it would be nice to have a forum that calls these jokers out and puts their fuckery on blast. But unfortunately we don't have that option.

Great post. 100

[S_B]

Kevin has a list a mile long of people he has burned on pups and/or semen he claims to have.
Truth.

[Southern_Saints]

It's fucking amazing I even have to get on here, It was my responsibility and I never went ghost or disappeared... shit I believe I only missed one message... now what I did do was make a common sense choice not to drive close to 4hrs away with dogs that have beauty marks in the fucking snow in a front wheel drive fucking car through the fucking mountains and through the city where all the AR Nuts are... because getting stuck in the snow on the side of the highway with no one to call for help seemed oh I don't know.... stupid as fuck... considering it would have put not only myself and the dogs I would have been traveling with at risk but possibly the whole yard... now I'm sure there are dumb fucks on here that would have fucking risked it... but I'm not a fucking dumb fuck... so if you want to start boasting how that is an excuse, then give yourself a pat on the back because your daddy should have swallowed your ignorant ass...

Just because you're stupid doesn't mean I am... now you can see my point or fuck off I don't really care... not sorry I made the decision to wait because I'm not going to risk everything I've worked for being stupid.

Now anyone have anymore questions? Because unlike everyone else I have no interest in entertaining dog world. I have a dog sick with a kidney issue that I'm trying to keep from burying and a litter of puppies that the crazy bitch has decided to get ill with so I've got to bottle feed... I don't plan on getting back on here so if ya decide to ban me oh fucking well... I don't give a rats ass... not like I play on these sites anyway I have a fucking yard to take care of... should try it sometime.

I gave my word and I'm not breaking it for no fucking body. He will get what he paid for and so will the other individuals who are waiting patiently that I myself personally owe... see I give a good business discount to avoid new people and fucking drama, I prefer repeat good business and they are frequent fliers of that program... because I'm not in the habit of fucking people over... I'm just in the habit of using common fucking sense.

[ceasar]

It's fucking amazing I even have to get on here, It was my responsibility and I never went ghost or disappeared... shit I believe I only missed one message... now what I did do was make a common sense choice not to drive close to 4hrs away with dogs that have beauty marks in the fucking snow in a front wheel drive fucking car through the fucking mountains and through the city where all the AR Nuts are... because getting stuck in the snow on the side of the highway with no one to call for help seemed oh I don't know.... stupid as fuck... considering it would have put not only myself and the dogs I would have been traveling with at risk but possibly the whole yard... now I'm sure there are dumb fucks on here that would have fucking risked it... but I'm not a fucking dumb fuck... so if you want to start boasting how that is an excuse, then give yourself a pat on the back because your daddy should have swallowed your ignorant ass...

Just because you're stupid doesn't mean I am... now you can see my point or fuck off I don't really care... not sorry I made the decision to wait because I'm not going to risk everything I've worked for being stupid.

Now anyone have anymore questions? Because unlike everyone else I have no interest in entertaining dog world. I have a dog sick with a kidney issue that I'm trying to keep from burying and a litter of puppies that the crazy bitch has decided to get ill with so I've got to bottle feed... I don't plan on getting back on here so if ya decide to ban me oh fucking well... I don't give a rats ass... not like I play on these sites anyway I have a fucking yard to take care of... should try it sometime.

I gave my word and I'm not breaking it for no fucking body. He will get what he paid for and so will the other individuals who are waiting patiently that I myself personally owe... see I give a good business discount to avoid new people and fucking drama, I prefer repeat good business and they are frequent fliers of that program... because I'm not in the habit of fucking people over... I'm just in the habit of using common fucking sense.
YAWN...lmao, just give that man what you owe him and spare us the DOPE FIEND excuses!!

[brokeback]

You wouldn't have to come on anywhere and explain yourself if you wasn't out there fucking over people you dope fiend. Guess who don't have to explain themselves? People who do good business from the beginning. You should try that sometime.

[Southern_Saints]

Your kidding right.... calling me a dope head... at any point yall want to stand toe to toe an take a test I'd be happy to Oblige... that way that keyboard is no longer protecting your ass,
Because I might be a country girl who drinks shine but never been a Crack whore like ya momma... I forgot you bitches are more of a pussy than I'll ever be and I've got one between my legs.... damn heart pumps coolaid smh.

[Southern_Saints]

Considering a refund was offered to begin with when it was brought to my attention that instead of trying to reach out to me more than once he chose to jump on a board... which I'm still not sure how this was supposed to help as I would have never seen it because I don't play internet dog woman on here like some of yall... I got a phone call telling me about this post and I immediately reached out to him and offered a refund as I wanted to wash my hands with the whole deal because I'm not interested in bullshit drama so I'm not sure what the fuck yall are wanting as I offered a refund... ask the man yalls self if a refund was not offered I can try and figure out how to post a screenshot if I need to... He said that as long as he was dealing with me Ms. Saint he wanted to do good business and didn't want the refund... but since yall so badly want to be in the middle of my business I guess I'll let yall play secretary if it makes you feel important... my suggestion is to talk to your doctors because I believe you might need hormone replacement therapy... men are not supposed to act like bitches.

[Southern_Saints]

You twat waffles even know who your talking to? Or you just here with a spoon to stir the shit and popcorn to watch the show...

[ceasar]

You twat waffles even know who your talking to? Or you just here with a spoon to stir the shit and popcorn to watch the show...

Don’t try and play victim when your old man got a trail of victims behind him.
I said from the start you’ve been known to make it right.

Nobody wants to disrespect you as it’s clear you have your hands full with him, but if you wanna act like one of the boys you can damn sure be treated like one.

[Southern_Saints]

How would you have me act? You called me a dope head... in what world would my ass survive if I allowed that to fly? Exactly how much respect do you give a door mat? Ya don't you walk all over it wiping your feet as you go.... hence why I reacted the way I did... shit your more than welcome to call me a cunt, bitch or whatever else that is true but laying a lie on my name isn't something I'm just going to grin and bare.

[Southern_Saints]

Normally I handle collections and studs... just about everyone knows this, We may have separate yards but I am the one who breeds, handles paperwork and its my contracts everyone signs, ask anyone. $100 bet says if they paid for a stud service I handled it because it's easier to prevent a problem rather than fix one. Between him working and his communication skills sucking ass it's a recipe for disaster. Then you have some of the idiots he does business with that just scream drama, I have a LOW tolerance for bullshit from other people... I deal with enough. There is only one mother fucker who I won't help and he knows who he is and all he has to do is apologize. So I'm not 100% sure how this became a shit show as I have been as clear as a bell from day one but it's being handled. I don't know why the dope head comment came up but if you're going to trash talk about me at least use the truth... damn. You want me to be nice then my suggestion is if there is a problem come to me about it, I'm not a mind reader. I shouldn't have to get a damn phone call and screenshots about a post when it would have more productive to come to me because I'm not sure how the hell people on a board are going to fix a issue involving someone else's business.

[Southern_Saints]

I don't believe none of yall offered to pay him his refund did yall?

Anyone here apologize for life getting in the way and offer to pay any reasonable stud fees to the stud of thier choice if their bitch came into heat before this was resolved?

Anyone here offer to give extra straws to the ones who waited patiently as a thank you for being understanding and patient?

Yea, na none of yall did because that's not what this post is about... so if yall don't mind I got it handled unless yall want to step up? Yea.. I didn't think so

And for future reference... dont put peoples government names on a public forum like this... I don't care how pissed you are... it really speaks volumes on your raising... breaking the unspoken rules smh.

[brokeback]

I thought your man was on here talking tough. That's how I took it and that's who I was talking to. If this IS you, then I do apologize, you are not the dope fiend I was referring to. It was your man. Who does have a LONG list of people he owes. That's the only thing I spoke on.

[brasso]

Starting to feel like peds! Lol

[Southern_Saints]

Yea it's me, 2 separate yards and most definitely 2 separate accounts. I had to battle to remember the password for this site after I was told I might be able to still use the forum without renewing the subscription and was surprised that the account was active. I stepped away from APBT only databases and started using the Working Dog Version because it's multi breed figure it would be harder for AR nuts to label a multi breed database negatively. I actually like this database besides that, as its nice that idiots can't make multiple pedigrees of my dogs putting stupid shit on em that has no business being online.

I know he owes, never said he didn't and it's not my responsibility to remedy the situation but I do it because by the time it's reached my desk its the best course of action for me to retain what little sanity I have left... most of the time it's a simple miscommunication or non communication which is usually easy to fix, others I've had to change my own personal breeding plans to accommodate because I don't run the flavor of the month and I'm having to go tight rather than out cross like I want for myself personally... and then there are individuals who you can't make happy no matter what... but my personal favorites are the scamming fucks who have been made whole a long fucking time ago that still like to play victim to stir the pot...

So believe me I'm very aware of the situation but unlike everyone else I get to see both sides, but I know no one wants the truth they just want entertainment. So if yall want to entertain yourselves I suggest fucking with the idiots who sell sick fucking dogs as im tired of that shit, I'm in the double digits on losses because of low life scum and we won't get started on vet bills... or how about mother fuckers who owe more than pocket change shit I have a top 3... one ran off with $8000, one ran off with $5500 and another $4200...

Or if you can track down the dude that bought this Terrorist dog and then went ghost... since yall have such a helpful nature and all... I'd greatly appreciate it considering I've been feeding him for months and I don't feel like dealing with another person who decides to reappear when it's convenient to them crying they got screwed over when the God damn dog has been sitting here waiting.... I'm getting tired of that shit as well, it's not my damn responsibility to board and care until it's convenient for you.

And another fucking thing I have no fucking clue about Kevin's damn drug use in his past as I don't routinely throw people's past up in thier face as its in poor taste and I was raised better, everyone has a skeleton in their closet that they are ashamed of, I'm sure none of yall want to open you closet doors up and parade it around... so I can't speak on that shit as that's isn't something I've seen with my own eyes... I highly doubt I'd of missed it, I actually have a dope head for a brother doing 8 years and since I can leave the house and come back with my TV where I left it and not in the pawn shop and dogs still on the chain instead of down at the local dealers house I'm pretty sure he isn't strung out on anything... I can't even get him to drink a whole damn beer which is pretty fucking annoying...

Me on the other hand I drink shine because your right I have my hands full and wasting the time I have explaining shit to people who don't really give a fuck has put me even more behind....

so how about this STOP SELLING SICK DOGS AND STOP PROTECTING THE ONES WHO DO.. because I'm tired of that shit... I can't stop kev from buying dogs but the next one that shows up here sick I'm showing up at someone's yard. That shit effects my side of the yard and me and I'm fucking tired of it.

You have a problem come to me and keep in mind I owe you nothing so leave your attitude at the door because my patience is thin and my kindness is a reflection of your attitude. You can give me time to fix it or you can go back to dealing with Kevin your choice.

I don't sell shit often and I'm not a used car salesman so when you ask something expect the truth, not just what you want to hear... I don't deal with idiots or haggling. I don't care if your a old timer or who's buddy you are I'm not going to wet my panties and kiss your ass... its business and Jesus himself doesn't even get a discount unless you're repeat good business, served in the military or have a membership with the calvary group... and for those reasons most people choose to go the other route and then I end up fixing a issue with someone I'd of never done business with to begin with which is fucking infuriating.

And don't ever lie on me... if you would like to see how that shit works out for you ask the last dude that pulled that shit.

Now that yall have had a peek of a day in the life of me, I'd greatly appreciate if yall would back up and let me take care of things or come give me a vacation as I could use it... either way... I have to get back to work and I would prefer not to continue wasting time going back and forth entertaining people with as the dog world turns bullshit. Not looking for pitty either so don't even step down that road. My point is unless you are willing to fix it then drop it... only thing I need is for anyone who has a issue come to me or yall point them my way (thank you to those who do I appreciate it) and I'll handle it.

[reddirt redneck]

Still a con artist. The only person I know of who doesn’t want to get in arms reach of many from Florida to the Midwest

[North Strong]

Somebody owes me my box of donuts....

Regardless of who "did not keep their word" from this husband and wife team.
It's a shame if this is a woman speaking vulgarity as such.
You see I did not address the person as a lady as it seems it's far from it.
No matter who you are mad at, or why you are upset, at the end of the day, if you owe someone their due, they don't want to hear how hard "life" is for you. Not, "shyt" happens, etc...
As I'm dead sure when they had to pay, you did not want to hear, "the kids are sick, my wife lost her job and the hot water tank has a leak" and let's not forget, the in-laws needed some money to hold them over until the check comes in for this month.
You got paid you need to reciprocate the deal.

Try it, you may like it..
That is if your an honest person.

N.S.

[Redboy83]

100%!