if you could have 10 dogs..

[bad dog]

what would they be? males n females? here's mine

males: jeep, redboy, rascal, yellow, art
females" honeybunch, carolina flo, missy, sassy, dolly

:twisted:

[CitySwamp]

Sheesh 10 that's a buffet lol

Give me males: GrCh Midnight, Boomerang, Art, Midnite Cowboy
Females gotta be Black Widow, Miss Spike, Art's Missy, Red Baby, Queen of Hearts, Ready (Queen's mother)

[heritage]

Mayday, Indian bolio, blind billy, bad billy, melonhead, spike, frisco

Red baby, missy, honeybunch

[R2L]

if i could have 10 dogs, id give a few away and keep the ones i have.

[dance all night rece]

Males:gr.ch.buck,bolio,gr.ch.mayday, tombstone,frisco

females:dirty mary,red baby,hollingsworth dolly,queen of hearts,honey bunch

[Officially Retired]

Well, honestly, I could resurrect 10 key dogs of my line and do as well or better as any other combo I can think of, but just to "think outside the box" (or, perhaps, inside the box, LOL) I would take the following specimens:

Males:
Gr Ch Robert T (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=9965)
Gr Ch Buck (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=346)
Gr Ch Art (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=922)
Indian Bolio (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=10)
Ch Tonka (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=31)


Females:
Black Widow (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=43)
Ch Honeybunch (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=467)
Red Baby (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=30)
Lady In Red (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=9)
Speedy (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=185)

Damn, I am salivating picturing being able to start a yard with these dogs, knowing what I know now :mrgreen:


Jack

[Earl Tudor]

Males: Art, Boomerang, E. Crenshaws Reno, E. Crenshaws Stufowler and Bolio

Females: Honeybunch, Carver' Black Beautee, Art's Missy, Black Widow, Ripper

[TFX]

I'm thinking like Jack, I just want some of my own dogs back to set up a better future! Beyond that, I think I would get:

Males:
Hooten's Ch Butcher Boy
William's Ch Paladin
Indian Bolio
Davis' Gr Ch Boomerang
Smith & Walton's Ch Bad Billy

Females:
Art's Missy
Womack's Mert
Skaggs' Firefly
Mr. K's Bup
Carver's Black Widow

I think I could make do OK with that lineup. Yeah, I like old Carver dogs.

[Officially Retired]

Uh, yeah, I can see you like them old Carver dogs amigo ... but ya had to throw one true OFRN bitch in there for a kicker ;)

Interesting!

[WNC COMBINE]

BOWLING'S LONER
COTTINGHAM'S RED MAN
LONGS ABBE
TAYLOR WILDER'S INDI
MOUNTAIN MAN'S HOMER

MOUNTAIN MAN'S SPIDER BITEM
MARLOWE'S BERRETTA
SHADY LADY
FAT BILL'S BOLEREO
WILDSIDE'S MEAN JOLENE

[QCKLime]

These threads are SOO fun, but SOO unfair at the same time, hah.

My boys would be:

GRCH Buck
GRCH Andy Capp
GRCH Art
CH Tonka
GRCH Boomerang

My ladies would be:

Art's Missy
GRCH Queen of Hearts
GRCH BB Red
GRCH Tina
Boyle's Dirty Mary

First ups would be Missy X Boomerang and Dirty Mary X Andy Capp :D

[Patch]

Agreed QCK LIME

My males:
Searcy Jeff
GR CH Art
GR CH KINGFISH
BO
Long's Werdo
My old boy Hannibal

Females:
Honeybunch
CH Gina Girl
Tabby Girl
Missy

[lilpitgirl]

1) o stevens homer
2) hammonds rufas
3) dibo
4)ch alligator
5)chinamen

1)honeybunch
2)gr ch tina
3)red baby
4)arts missy
5)satin lady

[H.B.K.]

gr.ch. art
kingfish
gr.ch. zebo
gr.ch. pedro 9w
gr.ch. searcy jeff


ch.honeybunch
adams candy
clemmons brendy
fatbills balero
carvers black widow

[red dog]

Tramp , Mayday , Bullshit (3xw)(1xlg) ,Red boy

Honey bunch , Dolly , Missy . Mix and match cant go wrong .

[TFX]

Uh, yeah, I can see you like them old Carver dogs amigo ... but ya had to throw one true OFRN bitch in there for a kicker ;)

Interesting!

You know I am wild about the Firefly bitch. There is plenty of Fitzwater's Goldie in those old Carver dogs, as well as the Jim Williams' Cyclone blood which are both heavy OFRN.

[SwampDweller]

Males:
Gr.Ch. Art
Gr.Ch. Angus
Gr.Ch. Cherokee Chief
1xw Indian Bolio
Gr.Ch. Boomerang

Females:
Gr.Ch. Queen Of Hearts
Gr.Ch. Shady Lady
Ch. Honey Bunch
2xw Dirty Mary
2xw Miss Spike

[bilko]

Gr Ch Buck... ROM
Gr Ch Art... ROM
Gr Ch Zebo... ROM
Gr Ch Midnight
Gr Ch Boomerang

Gr Ch Queen of Hearts
Ch Honeybunch...ROM
Tug... ROM
Ch Catfish...ROM
Dbl Gr Ch Tornado

[BIGFLA73]

MALES
GR.CH.BUCK R.O.M
CH.TURTLEBUSTER
GR.CH.ART R.O.M
CH.TERMIT R.O.M
TOMBSTONE R.O.M
FEMALES
DAISY MAE R.O.M
POLLY R.O.M
GR.CH.QUEEN OF HEARTS
CH.BAD ROSEMARY
CAROLINA FLO R.O.M

[YigYang]

Males:
Ch Jeep
Gr ch Mayday
Gr ch Yellow
Bolio
Gr ch Buck

Females;
Honeybunch
Gr ch BB red
Hollingswoth Dolly
Waccamaws Sabre
Gr ch Quenn of Harts

[LEFTLANE]

Nobody wants Tab, Dime or Pincher. Only one wanted Dibo.

I can't say which ten id want but I think Dime or Pincher would be in there.

Killerant

[CitySwamp]

Seeing a lot of people pick Boomerang and Art & Stu Fowler, some very good ingredients as well as many picking QoH a dog with boomerang in her. With that said y'all know about these recipes which one are y'all hiding in the pen, share them Boomerang & E Crenshaw dogs

[skipper]

See most people would choose dogs from way past. Does that mean the quality of dogs today aren't as good as it used to be? I can't pick just like that. But would rather have something that have success in the fast lane (or producing fast lane dogs) of today rather than 20-30 years ago. Not saying that those dogs are better or anything. But if the goal is to improve your dogs each generation, then imo it would be a step back to striving for dogs of yesterday. Food for thought.

[Officially Retired]

See most people would choose dogs from way past. Does that mean the quality of dogs today aren't as good as it used to be? I can't pick just like that. But would rather have something that have success in the fast lane (or producing fast lane dogs) of today rather than 20-30 years ago. Not saying that those dogs are better or anything. But if the goal is to improve your dogs each generation, then imo it would be a step back to striving for dogs of yesterday. Food for thought.


I agree with you in spirit, but I think one of the reasons why "dogs of the past" are selected is simply enough time has gone by to truly appreciate their value. ("The Light of Time's Perspective," as the saying goes.)

Yet, while the dogs of today are winning today ... the flipside to that arguement is the dogs of today have FAR more advantages now ... in areas such as conditioning knowledge/aftercare knowledge, etc. ... that, by contrast, it took a pretty damned good dog to perform at its best to survive and reproduce back in the day too.

That being said, what dogs would you choose, today or yesterday 8-)

[bad dog]

1) o stevens homer

forgot about homer!

[skipper]

I agree with you in spirit, but I think one of the reasons why "dogs of the past" are selected is simply enough time has gone by to truly appreciate their value. ("The Light of Time's Perspective," as the saying goes.)

Yet, while the dogs of today are winning today ... the flipside to that arguement is the dogs of today have FAR more advantages now ... in areas such as conditioning knowledge/aftercare knowledge, etc. ... that, by contrast, it took a pretty damned good dog to perform at its best to survive and reproduce back in the day too.

That being said, what dogs would you choose, today or yesterday 8-)

It's easier to pick "dogs of yesterday" as their records as producers already exists. And yes it takes years and years to evaluate a dogs reproduction (for several generations). I agree with you about the advantages about things as aftercare and such, maybe the dogs of yesteryears would have been even more legendary if they had the proper aftercare. That is all up to the owner, and one shouldn't compete without the knowledge to put one in shape or be able to properly take care of his animal after a hunt. But IMO the main thing is to know when your dog had enough. That saves more dogs than any aftercare in the world. With that being said. I should stick to my statement and pick dogs of today.

Vengeance and Chilindrina would be my picks. Picking 10 would take forever. Those are my picks just out of what they accomplished in recent times.

[Officially Retired]

Good post about knowing when enough is enough ... and can't go wrong with those dog choices either!

[MojoMan]

Great topic

Males
1. Garners Chinaman
2. Garners Spike
3. Kellys Mojo Rising
4. Kellys Young Chinaboy
5. Krunchs Miester
6. Krunchs Macguyver

Females
1. Slingshots Shotzie
2. Moaks Jason
3. Paynes Lee Ling
4. Cull Hards Goldie

[nightryder]

males Tant's poncho,Long's Werdo,RC's magnum,Crenshaw's gator,Tant's bruiser. Females Queen of hearts,honeybunch,Jackson's hooker red,daisy mae,Boyles dirty mary

[Jrbulldogs]

Males
1. Gr ch buck
2.Greenwood's Ch Jimmy Boot's
3. O steven's Homer
4. Tombstone
5.chavi's yellow john

Females
1.Greenwood's Ms.holliday
2.Patrick's lady in red
3. Stone city's Awesome baby
4.Art's missy
5.Boyle's Dirty mary

[Bojacc357]

I don't think I could go wrong with this yard.

Males: Grch Art, Midnight cowboy, Grch Midnight, Jimmy Boots, Tombstone

Females: Grch Shady Lady, Honeybunch, Queen of Hearts, Carolina Flo, Poolhall Red

[Choctaw]

Males:
Crenshaw's Jeep
Crenshaw's Black Jack
Irish Tom's Justice
Wood's Snooty
Crenshaw's Rascal

Females:
Crenshaw's Honeybunch
Rebels Shady Lady
Carver's Miss Spike
Garners China Girl 1
Busenbark's Honeydew

Males: Mayday, Termite, Jeep, Bolio, Badger
Females: Honeybunch, Dolly, Art's Missy, Miss Jocko, XUXA

[Da District]

Males Boomerang, Zebo, Megabite, Rascal, Floyd
Females Honeybunch, Bad Rosemary, Queen of Hearts, Pandi, Tornado

[duval]

Males
1. Gr Ch Zebo
2. Gr Ch Andy Capp
3. Gr Ch Buck
4. Gr Ch Robert T
5. Gr CH Banjo

Females
1. Double Gr Ch Tornado
2. Gr Ch Shady Lady
3. Ch Pandi
4. Ch Honeybunch
5. Gr Ch Queen of Hearts


Gotttt Dammmnnn!!!! I would be unbeatable....LOL man what a line up u can tell which part of the sport I prefer buy the line up I just listed ;)

[Judas356]

I would like as my males
Gr ch art
Gr ch banjo
Gr ch machobuck
Bolio
Gr ch boomerang

Females would be
Gr ch bb red
Gr ch shady lady
Honeybunch
Arts missy
Tornado

[GoForBroke]

Patricks Red Baby
Honeybunch
Shady Lady
Queen of Hearts
Chinaman
Tants Yellow
Centipied
Gambler's Virgil
Redboy
Mayday

6 Males 4 Females I would Inbreed on my bitches heavy, then cross em up with my males. I chose more males because thier semen can be collected and stored for further down the road to tighten up with.

[STONEWALL]

There are so many great bulldogs of the past, but I can narrow it down to two. One is a house hold name in the apbt world INDIAN BOLIO (ROM) and the other is my foundation bitch Daryls Bullysondra and her pedigree is full of greats.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=157791 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=157791)

[evolutionkennels]

1. Mayday
2. Gr.Ch.Yellowbuck
3. Gr.Ch.Yellow
4. STP's Gr.Ch.Buck
5. Jimmy Booots

1. Hollingsworth Dolly ROM
2. Awesome Baby ROM
3. Gr.Ch.Queen of Hearts
4. SCK's Ch.Piggy
5. Mims' Carolina Flo

[Ipk]

Males:
indian bolio rom
Plumbers ch alligator por
Farves ch luke
Adams gr ch kingfish por
tudors gr ch blackjack

Females:
Ch indian bloomers
Crenshaws ch honeybunch rom
Adams ch candy rom
Tudors ch baby
Carvers mendencino

I think these would do real nice! If I were to throw an extra male into the mix it would be maloneys toot.

[CheddaBob313]

I would have to say That if I could have 10 great bulldog's I would want ozzys ch homer ,redboy, jocko, dibo, mavrick now for the female's Tornado, queen of heart's, shadylady, spook, and my 1xw 1xl hussybear she was one of the best dog's to ever look across the []!

[Axiom]

Gr Ch Boomerang
Bolio
Bullyson
Gr Ch Art
Gr Ch Buck

Black Widow
Art's Missy
Ch Honeybunch
Spook
Miss Spike

[ONP]

Tonka, vise grips chase, boomerang, cp's gamble, and jimmy boots..

Lewis' Catfish, Ez country's Conchita, cp's Martha, gw's ms Holliday, and vise grips chita

[CRISIS]

Males:
1.Gr Ch Art
2. Nigerino
3. boomerang
4. midnight cowboy
5. bad billy
6. tab

females:

7.honeybunch
8.tornado
9.queen of hearts
10. arts missy

[ResidentKennel]

I would only want one. Symond's Mallory

She was the best dog I ever had. The rest mentioned above sound great and they all made a mark in history, but I personally haven't had any experience with those like Mallory.

[evolutionkennels]

1. Gr.ch.Mayday
2. Gr.Ch.Yellowbuck
3. Ch.piggy
4. Ch.357
5. Gr.Ch.Baracuda
6. Ch.May-May
7. Sk's Macho (1x) Rom
8. Sk's Macha Por
9. Gr.Ch. Machobuck Rom
10. Otters Sassy

These were the dogs that motivated me. Macho 1x made Rom in only 4 breeding. He beat diesel who had beat strictly business, Havana Chico, and Cuban missing link. He had beaten two sons of mayday. Diesel was out of redrum ( a littermate to Gr.ch.flash. ), anyway, the rest is self explanatory, Macha made Machobuck, and otters sassy made ch.Rommel.

[bently]

Males:
Ch. Tramp
Gr Ch Yellow
Gr Ch. Andy Cap
Ch. Midnite Cowboy
Gr Ch Art



Females:
Wacc Sabre
Honeybunch
R. Smith annie
Red Baby
CH. Bad Rosemary

[S_B]

MALES:
CH TRAMP ROM
GR CH YELLOW ROM
GR CH PEDRO
GR CH BLACK JACK
&
VOYLES' LITTLE JOHN 2XW ROM

FEMALES:
GR CH HONEYBUNCH ROM
HOLLINGSWORTH'S DOLLY
MARLOWE'S TABBY GIRL POR
REBEL KNLS GR CH SHADY LADY POR
&
VOYLES' TEA CUP ROM

The last male and last female in that line up would be to re-create my whole yard...again! :dancin:

[drz]

Males

Indian Bolio ROM
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=10

Gr. Ch Midnight POR
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=3186&thumbnail=3

Females

Dolly ROM
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=171

Red Baby ROM
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=30

Art's Missy ROM
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=84

CH. Honeybunch ROM
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=467&thumbnail=1

GR. CH Queen of Hearts
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1919

Black Gold POR
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1912

Lady in Red POR
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=9

Geraldine ROM
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2977

I think to start I'd breed Midnight to Lady in Red and Red Baby and maybe Dolly and Bolio to everything else. Then take it from there with Bolio being my emphasis going forward with the Midnight being my "out". I'd have a whole lot of fun with this yard.

[GAMEWARDEN]

Kelly's Eli
Ch macguyver
Ch Meister
Kelly's Titan

Gr ch Goldie
Kelly's chynagirl
Moaks Jason
Havens jade
Hootens miss chinaman
Bolero

[Jrbulldogs]

Males
Gr ch buck
Gr ch yellow
ch yellow john
Tombstone
ch termite

FEMALES
awesome baby
stone city blondie
daisy mae
patricks red baby
lewis ch catfish

[bigpopdog]

MALES

GRCH. MIDNIGHT
CH. JAKE THE SNAKE
INDIAN BOLIO
CH. GAMBLER
GRCH. ZEBO

FEMALES

GRCH. QOH
DIRTY MARY
CH. HONEYBUNCH
ART'S MISSY
RED BABY

[Officially Retired]

Okay, if Jrbulldogs gets to vote twice, and change some things, then I will vote twice and change some things too :)

Even though I have a lot of respect for the great old dogs of the past, and like my pick back on Page 1, I prefer what I already had as a breeder over any other combination out there. So let me show what I would pick out of my own lineup, with the benefit of hindsight. I am 100% confident that, with the following dogs, I would beat anything that came out of any combination far more than I would ever lose to it, I don't care who had it or bred it:

Males
Poncho (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2)
Gr Ch Zukill (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7526)
Ch Stormbringer (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=211)
Thunder (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=179)
Silverback (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=152)

Females
Missy (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=3)
Red Sonja (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=180)
Wild Red Rose (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=674)
Bandana (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=225)
Kitana (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=169)


And, after 24 years producing dogs that have competed and won over the best, all day, every day ... if I could resurrect those dogs now, I could (for as long as I lived and interbred what they produced) create offspring from these dogs that would prevail over anything far more often than not 8)

Jack


.

[FrostyPaws]

Though I've not bred dogs as long as Jack, or some others, I would also choose dogs I know on a personal basis.

Males
Lil Rock (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2670)
Buddy (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5098)
Little John (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1167)
Fat Jaws (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=4746)
Frosty Paws (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=238)


Females
Ch. Banger (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33969)
Busy (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33972)
Ch. Becky (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=962)
Big Patti (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33975)
Barbie (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33980)

[Wise]

CH Mechanic
Red boy
Bolio
Gr Ch art
Homer

Tornado
Queen o hearts
Honeybnch
Fine tuned
Assaninater

[Officially Retired]

Though I've not bred dogs as long as Jack, or some others, I would also choose dogs I know on a personal basis.

Males
Lil Rock (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=2670)
Buddy (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5098)
Little John (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1167)
Fat Jaws (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=4746)
Frosty Paws (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=238)


Females
Ch. Banger (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33969)
Busy (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33972)
Ch. Becky (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=962)
Big Patti (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33975)
Barbie (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=33980)


Nice to see you posting your hounds, Frosty, look good.

Just need some photos added :D

Jack

[Foxman]

To the man with the call name of 'Earl Tudor'. Earl Tudor's favorite dogs were Henry dogs. Every time I was there and talked dogs. He would eventially get around to talking Henry dogs. He said they were the gamesest and the badest he ever owned. He liked his Dibo stuff but not as much as the Henry stuff. See Ya Randy Fox

[Jrbulldogs]

lol get em jack

[FrostyPaws]

I know. I'm lazy when it comes to pictures and computers...

[Officially Retired]

Get un-lazy ...