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R2L
03-11-2012, 01:27 AM
Let's see those chain/kennel/pen setups

R2L
03-11-2012, 01:43 AM
I keep em in a 300x200cm kennel, grizzly doghouse with a "cat flap" and a galvanized 120x80cm wooden platform. Would like to have a massive concrete floor which is more hygienic and easier to clean but that would be a major operation and the house is only for rent. Hope to get some ideas for when i found a new/bigger place

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1151/p1020465f.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/525/p1020465f.jpg/)

Officially Retired
03-11-2012, 06:25 AM
Those are actually really, really nice professional-looking setups man. They look fantastic! The only thing I don't like are for 2 things: 1) the wood flooring as you mentioned and 2) the limited space the dogs have to live in. For those in the United States, 300 cm x 200 cm is only about 10ft x 6 ft, which is pretty small quarters @ only 60 square feet of living space for each dog to live its life in. Other than that, you couldn't ask for a nicer-looking kenneling system.

Still, overall (when looking at a cost + quality-of-life-for-the-dog aspect), the best way to keep dogs is on a good ol-fashioned chain spot. I typically have my chains at 12' which (if the surface area of a circle is 3.14 x r2) affords 452 sq. ft of space for each dog to live in:


http://www.thepitbullbible.com/postphotos/chainspot.jpg

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/postphotos/chainspot2.jpg

I do agree that the dogs living in the dirt isn't all that sanitary either, and a person really has to keep up on his worming protocol, but the room they have to run around on makes it worthwhile. Not to mention the fact a dog has the chance to "be a dog" in that he can run around, dig, bark at squirrels, etc.

I can also say this with authority too: plastic barrel houses rule. The top photo was taken of Dirty Hammer in 2008, right after I finished making that nice wooden house, while the bottom photo was taken in 2007 of houses I made back in 2002. It is now 2012, and that wooden house has long since been destroyed, while the plastic barrel houses look exactly the same now, 10 years later. Not a bad investment for about $5/barrel, about 40-min of time, and another $5 in hardware :D

Jack

ScratchAndGO
03-11-2012, 08:10 AM
http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/ericarnold33/0701111830a.jpg

I get a 20ft tow chain from home depot and cut it in half. They are about 35$. The houses are the 2 room kind. The barrel of water is only for playing in. The water bowl is about a 1/3 of a bag of concrete. The shade board is a full sheet with 2X4's on each side for strength. Each set up is a little expensive but I really like them. As long as you have good keepers then they will last you a considerable while. If you have some Knuckle heads then I would clearly not spend this kinda cash on the setup.

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/ericarnold33/20120219_173536.jpg
I have some of Jacks houses on the other side of the yard. Will try and take some picks later.

Chain::: 17.50
House:: 75.00
hardware 30.00
shade board 25.00
bowl 10.00
about 150 apiece but I think well worth it.

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/ericarnold33/20120307_143336.jpg

Digging it down 1 foot and screwing a 2X4 across the bottom so they cant kick it out. The location is a old gravel pit so the ground is near perfect. It is 16X12X6 and is 9 gauge wire.

ScratchAndGO
03-11-2012, 08:26 AM
http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy359/ericarnold33/20120217_123259.jpg

These are the above grounds I use inside the house. This little sucker is a pretty tough keeper for his age. Daddy's little killer. 8):lol:

R2L
03-11-2012, 10:51 AM
agree Jack, but this is the most i can offer them for now. i walk each every day as well so they have all the chances of being a dog. i think if the kennels are 300x400cm they still won't move allot more, those 360 chain setups are allot better.


lol ScratchAndGO. that setup looks very good as well. nice stairways to the roof, hehe. they love it up there too
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8798/p1020469u.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/842/p1020469u.jpg/)

Nash
03-11-2012, 12:05 PM
These are the above grounds I use inside the house. This little sucker is a pretty tough keeper for his age. Daddy's little killer. 8):lol:

Hahaha. :cheers:

R2L space is much more expensive here, also the way you keep a dog differs. Nice kennels !

R2L
03-26-2012, 10:49 AM
repaired the wooden doghouse again. next time he destroys someting im going to call the A team and pancer it totaly

http://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img1/20120326/492115.jpg
http://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img1/20120326/492116.jpg

Officially Retired
03-26-2012, 06:52 PM
Very clean and professional-looking set-up man.

My only criticism would be there doesn't seem to be a "soft spot" for any of the dogs (no straw/shavings, etc.). Would be rough on a young dog I would think (would lead to sores callouses, etc.), and would be even rougher on an elderly dog.

I think you'd be doing your dogs a favor by having a nest in their house, cedar shavings at least.

But the setup itself looks great.

Jack

R2L
03-27-2012, 01:42 AM
Thanks, i removed the straw last month cause it stopped freezing, now i put this:
http://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img1/20120327/493323.jpg

You think that'll do?

The platform should be better on the joints then the stone if they want to lay outside the house.

ponchday
03-27-2012, 07:54 AM
R2L Very nice and clean set up.

Nash
03-27-2012, 09:48 AM
I have those bath maths in the crates inside the house. Got them of a friend and must say they are really nice. Especially when you got a few terrorist dogs that ruin every other in house bedding you offer.

R2L
03-27-2012, 10:35 AM
I have those bath maths in the crates inside the house. Got them of a friend and must say they are really nice. Especially when you got a few terrorist dogs that ruin every other in house bedding you offer.

hehe nice, don't how to pronounce mine"vetbed" help me out Nash. realy cheap as well. was thinking to put some new straw in but that will probably be to hot in the summer and it seems like he enjoys hanging in the entrance on the wood the most.

Nash
03-27-2012, 01:10 PM
I think those are bathing maths buddy, i believe the English word for what you're trying to refer to is whelping pads. The ones you got there are stitched al around, i've never seen whelping pads like that before. Anyways, i would try to find blankets for the doghouse, cotton, the rougher the better. Wash them every 2 or 3 weeks if you got a dryer. Good alternative if you don't want to use shavings or straw. Makes for a nice soft bedding for the dogs. And if they get moist you just hang them out over the kennel to dry every now and than.

R2L
03-27-2012, 02:05 PM
lol these are one of the most used beddings for dogs, u never seen them before :mrgreen:
http://www.broekhuizens.nl/1414-1895-large/vetbed-grijs-effen-voor-honden.jpg

ill try to find some cotton blankets. my ikea blankets were already destroyed :angry:

Officially Retired
03-27-2012, 02:17 PM
hehe nice, don't how to pronounce mine"vetbed" help me out Nash. realy cheap as well. was thinking to put some new straw in but that will probably be to hot in the summer and it seems like he enjoys hanging in the entrance on the wood the most.

The reason why the dog lies on wood, is because it is softer than concrete or metal. A mat is a step in the right direction, but I don't think it really is a "soft spot" for the animal. (Would you like to sleep on your carpet or a welcome mat?)

I do agree straw would be too warm for summer, which is why I suggested cedar shavings instead. Fresh cedar shavings also repel fleas, ticks, flies, etc.

AmberLamps
03-27-2012, 02:32 PM
Cotton blankets are a very bad idea fellas, I personally know of someone who lost his best female from her eating a cotton blanket that he put down for her bedding.

In the summer months, those vetbeds that R2L posted are excellent, durable and very easy to clean.

R2L
03-27-2012, 02:45 PM
the reason he hangs in the entrance is because he likes to watch outside mainly ^^
my older dog likes to sleep on the stones outside all day, while he can walk freely to the couch inside or a big pillow.
let's not act like they are poodles but i always like to improve my setup if possible. what is cedar exactly??? ill look into that

R2L
03-27-2012, 02:47 PM
Cotton blankets are a very bad idea fellas, I personally know of someone who lost his best female from her eating a cotton blanket that he put down for her bedding.

In the summer months, those vetbeds that R2L posted are excellent, durable and very easy to clean.

good input!

Nash
03-27-2012, 02:52 PM
True, there are dogs that eat blankets. Heard of that before, mine doesn't so it's all good.
Those beddings he uses could be eaten also, in fact most fabrics. Those whelping beds were torn to pieces by the pups here. So maybe best to get the cedar shavings indeed.

Nash
03-27-2012, 02:55 PM
lol these are one of the most used beddings for dogs, u never seen them before :mrgreen:

Whatever man. You know i keep goats. :mrgreen:

R2L
03-27-2012, 03:14 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9fDGoYk_xBk/SR_oWtmbUuI/AAAAAAAAA_s/LoBoqbArfM8/s400/GoatBraces.jpg

R2L
03-30-2012, 09:32 AM
What is considered the best possible flooring for chain set ups?

ZeroCool
04-16-2012, 11:03 PM
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/1453ca3c.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/fcdba972.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/6643138c.jpg

Nash
04-17-2012, 03:12 AM
Very nice looking spot bud.

I don't have experience with chain spots, are those rocks alright ? No problem to the dogs ?

R2L
04-17-2012, 03:19 AM
That is looking great, but how hygenic is it.. u cant wash the pee and poo rests off, only down.

ZeroCool
04-17-2012, 05:10 AM
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/59671e7b.jpg
The tarp will prevent the weeds and grass from rising. And any liquid goes right through it, and into the ground...
The rocks are ok, id go with a smaller rock size in the future though. The pee just goes right through the rocks and then with the rain to get it good... nice and clean... and i feed raw so the shit just stays on top of the rocks nice and firm...
Never any puddles or muddy water.. its real nice. i am pleased.


Note: the only reason that you see some weeds/grass in the first pics that i posted is because i had to dig up these rocks myself , so they had soil in them.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/90656d7f.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/35bee86d.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/25aa5481.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj123/Jelet1/93d3e8d2.jpg

a couple of bags of lime for any odors.
so when i got them, they had weeds inbetween with dirt/soil etc. but its all good...

and thank u.

smells fresh, looks clean, no health problems... all good....

Nash
04-17-2012, 05:44 AM
Looks good man. Indeed a smaller rock perhaps. idk.

R2L
04-17-2012, 06:24 AM
ok sounds good thanks for sharing

skipper
04-17-2012, 06:38 AM
I have gravel in my kennels. It works a natural drainage. We get rain on a regular basis and smell is never an issue for me.

R2L
04-17-2012, 12:34 PM
The reason why the dog lies on wood, is because it is softer than concrete or metal. A mat is a step in the right direction, but I don't think it really is a "soft spot" for the animal. (Would you like to sleep on your carpet or a welcome mat?)

I do agree straw would be too warm for summer, which is why I suggested cedar shavings instead. Fresh cedar shavings also repel fleas, ticks, flies, etc.

The dog on that set up kept sleeping on the wood in the entrance of the doghouse, he never went in to sleep on the mat. even when i put multiple on top of eachother. I think he didnt enter the "accual sleeping part" of his doghouse for a month since i removed the straw. So i decided to put back the straw in today, if it will be warm soon he can lay in the entrance and outside anyway. Guess what, within an hour he disappeared to sleep inside the house :cheers: Regret i removed it now.

Officially Retired
04-18-2012, 06:15 AM
Like I said, at the end of a long day, a mat is a poor substitute for a soft nest :)

R2L
04-21-2012, 03:50 PM
copied from a European board for whoever is interested


Our winters can be long and VERY cold (-40 is not un common) and lets face it , keeping the dogs housed properly can be a challenge when it gets that cold out... One alternative to building a wooden insulated house is to get ahold of a small deep freezer (It doesn't need to work as you'll be removing the motor anyways).

Some benefits of using the deepfreeze dog house are ,they are completely waterproof , it's already insulated , ** it has a hinged top thats sealed so you can open the lid when its time to change out their bedding or wash it when needed** , the only wood needed is to go inside the opening thats been cut in one of the ends so they dont cut themselves on any sharp edges etc..

These setups will last MANY years and are surprisingly light so one person can skid them around when you have to clean the yard etc..

Simply cut out an opening in one end , line the opening with some wood and add a flap to keep the wind out.

Seeing as you don't need a working freezer , they can usually be picked up for free , so the only cost is the material for the opening

http://smart-knl.com.ua/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=701
http://smart-knl.com.ua/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=702

QCK23
04-29-2012, 06:13 PM
We recently moved and are in the process of getting our yard set again. We wish we had the room to do chain set ups but we are using kennels to conserve space.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/queenandcrescent/IMAG0361.jpg
This is a chain link kennel from TSC reinforced from the inside with 14 gauge welded deer wire. Barrel house with cedar shavings and 12x12 red concrete pavers for the flooring. Kennel was $280, deer fencing was $35, and stones were 1.30 a piece x 100 makes the flooring $130. We like the Magnum kennels but this is literally half the price and if we want to get a double gate panel to make this 10x10 two 10x5s it'll cost us 165 instead of 360.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/queenandcrescent/IMAG0362.jpg
I set up a spring pole inside the kennel, its kinda jimmy rigged right now until I go get a bigger spring and longer rope toy. Notice the nice hard turd in the kennel from their raw diet.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/queenandcrescent/IMAG0363.jpg
This is the dog septic tank which is also visible in the first pick. This is our first experience with the septic tank but all the videos on you tube say its great. I still have four more kennels to set and am going to place stone lined paths to all of them so updated pics will be posted with progress.

Officially Retired
04-30-2012, 06:17 AM
A very thoughtful setup ... but it has one glaring flaw: no roof!!

If those were Poncho puppies, they would have already scaled that fence and been lost in the woods ... and it is only a matter of time before some of those pups figure out how to do this themselves.

To complete the project, I would strongly suggest you get a roof on that ASAP.

Nice setup otherwise :D

Jack

R2L
04-30-2012, 07:05 AM
Structure of the fence also makes it easy to climb, but thats a very fine space for a dog imo, nice proper setup

Officially Retired
04-30-2012, 07:41 AM
Might want to put cinder blocks on the outside of the fence too :idea:

QCK23
04-30-2012, 11:28 AM
A very thoughtful setup ... but it has one glaring flaw: no roof!!

If those were Poncho puppies, they would have already scaled that fence and been lost in the woods ... and it is only a matter of time before some of those pups figure out how to do this themselves.

To complete the project, I would strongly suggest you get a roof on that ASAP.

Nice setup otherwise :D

Jack

Guess I should have mentioned that I have pen covers on order and they should be here Wednesday. Found them on Amazon for $25 which is way cheaper than anything else I have seen. Thanks for the input.

LollipopGuild
06-04-2013, 08:05 AM
Two room insulated dog houses. These are fresh spots since I moved the pups to chains. Any suggestions on what I can lay down on the ground (gravel, pea stones, rock dust) due to the land getting ''marshy'' after rain? All are on 1/4" 12ft chains except one that is on a 10' chain.

http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/Deadgame2/yard_zpsadedac53.jpg (http://s1003.photobucket.com/user/Deadgame2/media/yard_zpsadedac53.jpg.html)

The only house that requires shade. I need to do something better without losing the capability to remove the roof of the house. I have to fix the shade pallet every 2 days or so because she knocks it over.
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/Deadgame2/pup_zpscc6ad841.jpg (http://s1003.photobucket.com/user/Deadgame2/media/pup_zpscc6ad841.jpg.html)

The houses:
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/Deadgame2/2013-05-01_18-11-01_20_zps4a8d76c6.jpg (http://s1003.photobucket.com/user/Deadgame2/media/2013-05-01_18-11-01_20_zps4a8d76c6.jpg.html)

Freshly built:
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/Deadgame2/2013-04-29_21-29-00_663_zps757ee00a.jpg (http://s1003.photobucket.com/user/Deadgame2/media/2013-04-29_21-29-00_663_zps757ee00a.jpg.html)

Kennel I built inside the garage for various uses; whelping, weaning, confinement, dog in a keep, etc...
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/Deadgame2/kennel1.jpg (http://s1003.photobucket.com/user/Deadgame2/media/kennel1.jpg.html)

And the outside:
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af159/Deadgame2/kennel2.jpg (http://s1003.photobucket.com/user/Deadgame2/media/kennel2.jpg.html)

I get a lot of leaves because there's a huge tree right next to the garage. This was taken right after we set it up. I'll put a roof on it at some point, but none of my dogs are climbers, so it's not a situation for me right now.

Bolioman
03-17-2014, 06:47 AM
Great setup what type of plywood did use to make the dog houses ?

CRISIS
03-17-2014, 09:43 AM
fun thread...lets keep em comming...

Eliman
03-21-2014, 08:37 PM
I use heavy duty O rings on the axles and D rings from fall protection setups on all my setups no quick links, bull snaps or small O rings all solid connections with cold chucks that i tack weld after pressed. I learned the hard headed way in my early years keeping bulldogs i lost more then a few because of quick licks, bull snaps and wore out O rings.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/chainsetup_zps2a43b1a9.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/chainsetup_zps2a43b1a9.jpg.html)
All my chains are 10ft takes up yard space but i feel that these hounds would die to please me so i can give them a desent area to live.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/ad0fd18a-13a2-47ed-8bad-e77929eb63af_zpse139e94f.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/ad0fd18a-13a2-47ed-8bad-e77929eb63af_zpse139e94f.jpg.html)
When i started the yard area was thick with large trees and under growth i put alot of hours into cleaning out the area. I spread crushed rock on the spots about twice a year its cuts down the dust when its dry and the mud when its wet and makes waste clean up easy. I use blue barrels for the hard keepers who like to chew the wood houses.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/2013-08-10_17-43-33_8832_zps5da5a3e9.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/2013-08-10_17-43-33_8832_zps5da5a3e9.jpg.html)

Its not Rebal Kennels or Bulldog Barn :lol:

Eliman
03-21-2014, 11:40 PM
Above ground 10X10 kennel on a 11X11 treated and sealed wood platform i strap the kennel to the platform with 1" PVC pipe straps so it can't be moved.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/9c38e217-3849-4d68-a1c6-e3bfcb2c6ef8_zps816c03a1.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/9c38e217-3849-4d68-a1c6-e3bfcb2c6ef8_zps816c03a1.jpg.html)

Now this brood box isn't pretty but it is built to withstand bulldogs and last it will be around for awhile. It is insulated with built in heat lamp and fan both controlled by dimmer switches and a double pane plexiglass viewing window on the side so i can keep and eye on but not disturb a whelping gyp.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/IMG00101_zps4d459fcb.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/IMG00101_zps4d459fcb.jpg.html)

Night shot
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/1354314195227_zps9e8e842a.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/1354314195227_zps9e8e842a.jpg.html)

Inside unfinished shot i use 3" PVC pipe as puppy guards.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/IMG_20130125_220356_zps062a2498.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/IMG_20130125_220356_zps062a2498.jpg.html)

Again not pretty but functions safely

Pit Bull Committed
03-22-2014, 08:30 PM
Above ground 10X10 kennel on a 11X11 treated and sealed wood platform i strap the kennel to the platform with 1" PVC pipe straps so it can't be moved.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/9c38e217-3849-4d68-a1c6-e3bfcb2c6ef8_zps816c03a1.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/9c38e217-3849-4d68-a1c6-e3bfcb2c6ef8_zps816c03a1.jpg.html)

Now this brood box isn't pretty but it is built to withstand bulldogs and last it will be around for awhile. It is insulated with built in heat lamp and fan both controlled by dimmer switches and a double pane plexiglass viewing window on the side so i can keep and eye on but not disturb a whelping gyp.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/IMG00101_zps4d459fcb.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/IMG00101_zps4d459fcb.jpg.html)

Night shot
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/1354314195227_zps9e8e842a.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/1354314195227_zps9e8e842a.jpg.html)

Inside unfinished shot i use 3" PVC pipe as puppy guards.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/IMG_20130125_220356_zps062a2498.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/IMG_20130125_220356_zps062a2498.jpg.html)

Again not pretty but functions safely

Nice!!! Thanks for sharing.

Macker
04-01-2014, 02:35 AM
Hi new to the forum, here's a quick look at some of the dogs on my yard.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8WG1mQowY0M

Milky
04-01-2014, 11:04 AM
Some good looking dogs you got there, Macker

Macker
04-01-2014, 12:09 PM
Cheers milky, just some of the young dogs I have. They're coming on nicely for me.

KAIRO
09-23-2014, 07:39 AM
CA JACK
What size are barrels you use for the houses??? In litres??

loot
09-23-2014, 01:57 PM
CA JACK
What size are barrels you use for the houses??? In litres??

I believe they are 55 gallons. That's what I use.

bamaman
09-23-2014, 06:16 PM
We recently moved and are in the process of getting our yard set again. We wish we had the room to do chain set ups but we are using kennels to conserve space.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/queenandcrescent/IMAG0361.jpg
This is a chain link kennel from TSC reinforced from the inside with 14 gauge welded deer wire. Barrel house with cedar shavings and 12x12 red concrete pavers for the flooring. Kennel was $280, deer fencing was $35, and stones were 1.30 a piece x 100 makes the flooring $130. We like the Magnum kennels but this is literally half the price and if we want to get a double gate panel to make this 10x10 two 10x5s it'll cost us 165 instead of 360.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/queenandcrescent/IMAG0362.jpg
I set up a spring pole inside the kennel, its kinda jimmy rigged right now until I go get a bigger spring and longer rope toy. Notice the nice hard turd in the kennel from their raw diet.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/queenandcrescent/IMAG0363.jpg
This is the dog septic tank which is also visible in the first pick. This is our first experience with the septic tank but all the videos on you tube say its great. I still have four more kennels to set and am going to place stone lined paths to all of them so updated pics will be posted with progress.

Nice set up ! I will give you one more suggestion if you have already put your roof on ! make sure you anchor your kennel to the flooring some how..A good strong wind from a thunderstorm and that thing will flip on you and you will have a loose dog on your yard...Been there and done that years ago !

bamaman
09-23-2014, 06:37 PM
My bad that's stone...Anchor your kennel to the ground if you haven't already done this ..Those kennels fly really good once you put a roof on and it's not anchored down .Your lucky one hasn't climbed out or got on top of that barrel and jumped out lol! Good luck with it man..I like the idea just needs some adjusting.

bamaman
09-24-2014, 07:37 AM
I'll give one more bit of advice for anyone using a small kennel.Use a smaller dog house and put it in the middle of the kennel and attatch it to the floor.

bulldoghistorian
09-25-2014, 12:10 AM
chains are not allowed in my area , unless they are on a 10m trolley and the chain must be 2m
so must here use a kennel setup

bamaman
09-25-2014, 06:46 AM
I got both chains and kennels.I live in a rural area so I don't have to deal with those such things.But I am not against kennels but it takes a good , strong kennel for these dogs and I'm sure most understand this.You can go cheaper and simple and when you loose 1 or 2 you rethink things to avoid it the next time..Do it right the first time and you won't have to do anything for a while.I've made mistakes.

bamaman
09-25-2014, 06:58 AM
I built a nice kennel on a slab and I bragged and said yeah nothing will get out of this fucker and I went to work the next day and my brother calls and says u better come home lol..Had heavy duty chain link on a slab ..This female crawled under the fence between the fence and the slab their was no gap but she crawled under it.Slab was about 4 inches higher than the bottom of the fence and no gap there but she got under it.Just you and me looking at this you wouldn't even see that as a weak spot that's how tight it was..I had to drive rebar in the ground every couple feet where she couldn't crawl out..And bless he heart she was not a smart dog.

bamaman
09-25-2014, 07:21 AM
A good rule to live by if your building a kennel is if a dog can get its head through the body is coming next and then u have a loose dog..So when you build a kennel keep that in mind from top to bottom of the structure .

bulldoghistorian
09-25-2014, 11:36 AM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/bulldoghistorian/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/bulldoghistorian/media/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg.html)

bulldoghistorian
09-25-2014, 11:38 AM
part of a 12 kennel setup with additional 2 kennel runs

Nut
09-25-2014, 11:54 AM
Looks like a nice drain in the middle. Good kennel setup too. Mine are exactly the same. What are the toughts behind the placement of the doghouses? sun? stepping the poopoo?

bamaman
09-25-2014, 02:39 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/bulldoghistorian/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/bulldoghistorian/media/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg.html)
That's a nice setup !

loot
09-25-2014, 05:06 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/bulldoghistorian/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/bulldoghistorian/media/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg.html)

Nice

bulldoghistorian
09-25-2014, 09:29 PM
Looks like a nice drain in the middle. Good kennel setup too. Mine are exactly the same. What are the toughts behind the placement of the doghouses? sun? stepping the poopoo?

wind for winter and lying in the sun in the summer , I am about to change all of them with dog dens next week

Officially Retired
09-25-2014, 09:46 PM
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/bulldoghistorian/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/bulldoghistorian/media/IMG_1039_zps2b70bc60.jpg.html)

I have seen these setups before, and they're very nice.

Jack

bamaman
09-26-2014, 05:18 AM
I like the setup a lot as far as containment purposes its a very solid setup with no weak points that I can see .

bulldoghistorian
09-26-2014, 08:59 AM
I like the setup a lot as far as containment purposes its a very solid setup with no weak points that I can see .

I have had several setups trough the years , you improve and improve
this setup is almost where I want it

as you can see on this pic the walls are from top to bottom solid from very hard PVC thats used in pig stalls

no tails or legs or noses can be touched by the other dog


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/bulldoghistorian/2012-05-13_17-34-21_583_zpsbdb53cc6.jpg (http://s9.photobucket.com/user/bulldoghistorian/media/2012-05-13_17-34-21_583_zpsbdb53cc6.jpg.html)


next week the final 6 new doghouse will arrive , I already had 6 and the new 7 will be in the harbor on tuesday

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server1900/e301b/products/44/images/247/Dog-Den-3-photo-%2523-7_clipped__69716.1405347795.220.220.jpg?c=2

bulldoghistorian
09-26-2014, 09:07 AM
I also have these two chain setups , due to the fact their not allowed I used them for the dogs to stretch their legs

On the video is rock aka horsefly a son of ch stone , believe it or not I took this video about a year or so ago when he was like 17 or 18


http://vid9.photobucket.com/albums/a60/bulldoghistorian/new/MOV_0038.mp4

Officially Retired
09-26-2014, 09:10 AM
I like the setup a lot as far as containment purposes its a very solid setup with no weak points that I can see .


The only weak point is minimal area for the dogs to move around, as well as concrete flooring that basically means the dogs have to trample their own waste as soon as it's produced.

Taking photographs of a clean setup is one thing, but the reality is (unless someone is home and hosing them down a few times a day), dogs are going to be stepping in their own excrement in a small kennel run.

I personally prefer above-ground pens to runs, for this reason, if I want to keep a dog in a pen-type situation. The feces drops between the slats, and the dogs never have to step in their own feces.

I prefer chain setups overall, 10'+, for the freedom and life of the dog ... unless you live in an area of heavy snake infestation. (With chain setups, dogs also tend to poop in certain areas, and then avoid those areas.)

Lost one of my favorite bitches to a snake bite once, while on the chain, that could have been prevented by the use of an above-ground pen. Still, one snake bite in 20+ years of dogs being on a chain isn't bad.

Life-quality wise, chains are best.

Overall safety/cleanliness of the dogs, above-ground pens are best.

Appearance-wise, nice cement kennel runs look best.

Jack

bulldoghistorian
09-26-2014, 09:14 AM
I have seen these setups before, and they're very nice.

Jack

think I've seen them in a book called indispensable tips or ultimate bible something like that

bulldoghistorian
09-26-2014, 09:18 AM
The only weak point is minimal area for the dogs to move around, as well as concrete flooring that basically means the dogs have to trample their own waste as soon as it's produced.

Taking photographs of a clean setup is one thing, but the reality is (unless someone is home and hosing them down a few times a day), dogs are going to be stepping in their own excrement in a small kennel run.

I personally prefer above-ground pens to runs, for this reason, if I want to keep a dog in a pen-type situation. The feces drops between the slats, and the dogs never have to step in their own feces.

I prefer chain setups overall, 10'+, for the freedom and life of the dog ... unless you live in an area of heavy snake infestation ... they also tend to poop in certain areas (and then avoid those areas).

Lost one of my favorite bitches to a snake bite once, that could have been prevented by the use of an above-ground pen.

Still, one snake bite in 20+ years of dogs being on a chain isn't bad.

Life-quality wise, chains are best.

Overall safety/cleanliness of the dogs, above-ground pens are best.

Jack

this is how it looks 24/7 I feed raw ( 1 poop per day) and clean kennels twice a day , I scrub every dog bowl daily and fresh water daily

My Motto is I give you all 100% , there should be no excuse when I put em down
I think I lost about 15 or so and it was all my fault



PS the difference between pic 1 and pic 2 is I think 9 years
the red bitch at the end is the damn of the brindle

Officially Retired
09-26-2014, 09:19 AM
:-bd

Officially Retired
09-26-2014, 09:21 AM
think I've seen them in a book called indispensable tips or ultimate bible something like that

Yep, I used yours as an example of nice kennel runs, while also pointing out their limitations.

I forget, what are the dimensions?

bamaman
09-26-2014, 09:24 AM
The only weak point is minimal area for the dogs to move around, as well as concrete flooring that basically means the dogs have to trample their own waste as soon as it's produced.

Taking photographs of a clean setup is one thing, but the reality is (unless someone is home and hosing them down a few times a day), dogs are going to be stepping in their own excrement in a small kennel run.

I personally prefer above-ground pens to runs, for this reason, if I want to keep a dog in a pen-type situation. The feces drops between the slats, and the dogs never have to step in their own feces.

I prefer chain setups overall, 10'+, for the freedom and life of the dog ... unless you live in an area of heavy snake infestation. (With chain setups, dogs also tend to poop in certain areas, and then avoid those areas.)

Lost one of my favorite bitches to a snake bite once, while on the chain, that could have been prevented by the use of an above-ground pen. Still, one snake bite in 20+ years of dogs being on a chain isn't bad.

Life-quality wise, chains are best.

Overall safety/cleanliness of the dogs, above-ground pens are best.

Appearance-wise, nice cement kennel runs look best.

Jack
I agree with you Jack on all of this and why I said as far as containment purposes I really like the idea..I will admit my kennels.are very big and I only poured a portion of it concrete and the rest is dirt and grass..I can say one thing as long as I keep the grass cut short the dogs will not shit or urinate on the slabs .Mine don't like to get their feet wet early in the mornings from the dew on the grass lol..But if I keep the grass really short no problems...And they have a circle trail they run constantly so they run same place over and over kinda like a huge chain spot.So yes I still have grass in the middle and along the edges.

bamaman
09-26-2014, 09:31 AM
When they are in sleep mode they don't like to get their feet wet if they have to take a dump or piss is what I mean..Once the day begins at about 5 a.m. they are up and don't give a shit then.

Nut
09-26-2014, 09:47 AM
agreed, nothing wrong with these setups besides from limited space compared to chainsetups, but these are not allowed so... depends on the dog, some are just dirty motherfuckers. most do shit on the sides, and only once a day. so when u just clean it in the morning and when u feed at 18:00 they never have to step in the poop.

they r also easy to scrub and easy to clean with a high pressure cleaner.

i would say chain setups on natural ground are dirtier as poop gets stuck between the chain and hard to freshen up if it doesnt rain.

Officially Retired
09-26-2014, 10:00 AM
Poop only gets "stuck between the chain" on dogs fed shit-kibble ... which would be even nastier in a small kennel run.

Raw-fed dogs don't have that problem on a chain ... even less so in an above-ground pen.

Dogs on concrete almost always develop sores.

Dogs on a chain have the best life, period.

bamaman
09-26-2014, 10:13 AM
I only have 2 of the huge kennels ..But it's nice to have them if you have the room .I can take a dog off the chain and put him in there and they can really stretch it out as far as running.

Officially Retired
09-26-2014, 10:14 AM
I only have 2 of the huge kennels ..But it's nice to have them if you have the room .I can take a dog off the chain and put him in there and they can really stretch it out as far as running.

What are the dimensions of your 2 kennels?

bamaman
09-26-2014, 10:24 AM
70 ft by 70 ft... Which to me is big maybe not so big to others as I have a couple friends with bigger ones.

skipper
09-26-2014, 10:26 AM
I use kennels due to laws. I also have a couple like this.
http://youtu.be/qntlv-nabEU
25 meters long and around 5 meter wide. If i could, all dogs would live like that one on trolley.

Officially Retired
09-26-2014, 10:33 AM
Nice, both of them.

bulldoghistorian
09-26-2014, 10:45 AM
Yep, I used yours as an example of nice kennel runs, while also pointing out their limitations.

I forget, what are the dimensions?

they are 7 by 9

where I live we have 2 limitations

1) law , onky dogs on chain are allowed if you have dogs n 30 feet cable runs with a 7 feet chain
2) money , the average house within my country , whit a 10 by 30 feet garden cost around half a million dollars

bulldoghistorian
09-26-2014, 10:47 AM
agreed, nothing wrong with these setups besides from limited space compared to chainsetups, but these are not allowed so... depends on the dog, some are just dirty motherfuckers. most do shit on the sides, and only once a day. so when u just clean it in the morning and when u feed at 18:00 they never have to step in the poop.

they r also easy to scrub and easy to clean with a high pressure cleaner.

i would say chain setups on natural ground are dirtier as poop gets stuck between the chain and hard to freshen up if it doesnt rain.


yes I use the high pressure twice a week

luckily I have only one dirty mofo at the moment , he was sent to me by skipper

skipper
09-26-2014, 11:03 AM
luckily I have only one dirty mofo at the moment , he was sent to me by skipper

I heard he's your favorite

Milky
09-26-2014, 12:53 PM
lol :lol:

bamaman
09-27-2014, 03:39 PM
I use heavy duty O rings on the axles and D rings from fall protection setups on all my setups no quick links, bull snaps or small O rings all solid connections with cold chucks that i tack weld after pressed. I learned the hard headed way in my early years keeping bulldogs i lost more then a few because of quick licks, bull snaps and wore out O rings.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/chainsetup_zps2a43b1a9.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/chainsetup_zps2a43b1a9.jpg.html)
All my chains are 10ft takes up yard space but i feel that these hounds would die to please me so i can give them a desent area to live.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/ad0fd18a-13a2-47ed-8bad-e77929eb63af_zpse139e94f.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/ad0fd18a-13a2-47ed-8bad-e77929eb63af_zpse139e94f.jpg.html)
When i started the yard area was thick with large trees and under growth i put alot of hours into cleaning out the area. I spread crushed rock on the spots about twice a year its cuts down the dust when its dry and the mud when its wet and makes waste clean up easy. I use blue barrels for the hard keepers who like to chew the wood houses.
http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u364/charlueswifey03/2013-08-10_17-43-33_8832_zps5da5a3e9.jpg (http://s1064.photobucket.com/user/charlueswifey03/media/2013-08-10_17-43-33_8832_zps5da5a3e9.jpg.html)

Its not Rebal Kennels or Bulldog Barn :lol:
I love the lay out of your yard.Great job.