Raw Food Websites

[SGC]

Here are some links to web sites offering good quality raw foods --

https://www.hare-today.com/

http://www.mypetcarnivore.com/

http://www.bigdognatural.com/

http://www.k-9kraving.com/

http://www.naturesvariety.com/InstinctRaw

I have not bought much from these sites as I make my own raw diet but I know others who have purchased from these sites and been happy with the food.

It is important to read the ingredients as with anything, some raw food makers pad their diets with fillers and you want a high percentage of meats and organ meats, not a lot of fillers and vegetable matter.

Please add other links that have a quality raw food. It never hurts ot know about more of them.
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[Blackfoot]

Alot of what I learned was from the net, but Jacks raw feed actually made it quite simple and is a good base of any good raw menu. Muscle meat, oragans and bones go hand in hand...many people underestimate this part of a raw diet.
Carbs are NOT necessary, but can be used as a filler, energy source or added calories...I like to use brown rice or rolled oats personally!
Greens are important IMO, as they balance out the feed and provide many of the vits/mins needed!
Fats and oils...plenty of good sources..fish oils, wheat germ oil, flax seed etc..

[classic pitbull]

Alot of what I learned was from the net, but Jacks raw feed actually made it quite simple and is a good base of any good raw menu. Muscle meat, oragans and bones go hand in hand...many people underestimate this part of a raw diet.
Carbs are NOT necessary, but can be used as a filler, energy source or added calories...I like to use brown rice or rolled oats personally!
Greens are important IMO, as they balance out the feed and provide many of the vits/mins needed!
Fats and oils...plenty of good sources..fish oils, wheat germ oil, flax seed etc..
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I follow 80% meat, 10% bone, 10% organs. Fruits, vegetables and greens are occasional. Whole raw eggs and whole fish 1-3 times a week are excellent for them.

[BIGFLA73]

HOW MANY OUNCES PER POUND DO YOU FEED ?

[Officially Retired]

HOW MANY OUNCES PER POUND DO YOU FEED ?

If you are going to feed raw exclusively, via any of the above avenues, the basic guideline is to feed approximately 1½% to 2% of each dog’s body weight daily. This breaks down to the following matrix:

20 lb dog: 4.8 to 6.4 oz.
25 lb dog: 6.0 to 8.0 oz.
30 lb dog: 7.2 to 9.6 oz.
35 lb dog: 8.4 to 11.2 oz.
40 lb dog: 9.6 to 12.8 oz.
45 lb dog: 10.8 to 14.4 oz.
50 lb dog: 12.0 to 16.0 oz.
55 lb dog: 13.2 to 17.6 oz.
60 lb dog: 14.4 to 19.2 oz.
Remember, these are only guidelines to start from. If your dog starts getting too fat (or too skinny), naturally you will subtract (or add) as warranted. In order to determine the correct amount of raw material to feed, you will need two scales: one scale on which to weigh your dogs and the other scale to weight their feed. The scale to use for your dogs is a hanging scale that you can purchase from Chatillon Scales (http://www.chatillon-scales.com). I recommend their Model # IN-60, which is a hanging fish scale, comprised of brass, and as such will never rust. The scale you want to use for weighing your dogs’ feed can be any simple postal scale that you can buy at any Staples or Office Depot. Once you weigh your dogs you will know how much to feed each one. From that point, you will need to weigh their feed daily at feeding time to apportion correctly on a daily basis. (After you get the general idea how much each of them needs, you really don't need to weigh everything anymore.)

PS: My own food-weight assessment does not count the greens; I do not factor any vegetable weight into my bottom line feed weight as the greens contain almost no calories. With the veggies, you are attempting to simulate those few times that a canine will “chew on some grass,” or whatever vegetable matter he may ingest via the stomach contents of his prey. This is doubtless where the trace minerals come into play as an addendum to a wild dog’s diet.

Good luck!

Jack

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[BIGFLA73]

HAS ANYONE USED THIS PRODUCT ? http://www.bigdognatural.com/
IF SO HOW WAS IT THINK OF ORDERING IT .

[bluebeard]

Here are some links to web sites offering good quality raw foods --

https://www.hare-today.com/

http://www.mypetcarnivore.com/

http://www.bigdognatural.com/

http://www.k-9kraving.com/

http://www.naturesvariety.com/InstinctRaw

I have not bought much from these sites as I make my own raw diet but I know others who have purchased from these sites and been happy with the food.

It is important to read the ingredients as with anything, some raw food makers pad their diets with fillers and you want a high percentage of meats and organ meats, not a lot of fillers and vegetable matter.

Please add other links that have a quality raw food. It never hurts ot know about more of them.
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here is another

http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com/gra ... g-food.asp (http://www.americangrassfedbeef.com/grass-fed-raw-dog-food.asp)

[gilamonster]

http://preymodelraw.com/how-to-get-started/

[Officially Retired]

http://preymodelraw.com/how-to-get-started/


That is a good site. Interesting he considers gizzards and heart muscle meat, not part of the organ mean. I agree kidney meat is excellent for a dog, I just can't get it too readily where I am at.

I disagree on feeding raw pork though. Even though trichinosis may be rarer these days, I just wouldn't want to chance it myself.

Jack

[gilamonster]

I agree I will not feed raw pork. I know why there hasn't been any real cases of trichinosis. It's because everything we eat now a days is radiated. I luv feeding kidney meet myself,but I have a few dogs who do not care for it. One in particular will pick through his food with a surgeons precision not to eat it. I have even tried to hide it in the green tripe. Yet he still manages to find it.lol. I like feedind wild game also deer,elk, ect... you just have to be a little more cautious because of all of the parisites.

[Oregonbulldog]

Are you talking daily here?....How about for pups? could you multiply your matrix by a number for pups?

[Officially Retired]

Of course I am talking daily. Look at the green-highlighted sentence on the previous page ;)

Regarding pups, yes absolutely, by 6 weeks pups can handle the raw diet--but you have to grind it up or at least cut the chicken up into smaller bite-sized pieces. (Same as a mama wolf in the wild regurges; she doesn't just drop a whole kill in front of small pups.)

[Oregonbulldog]

Got it!...(no addies).... They don't need any more food being pups and all?? and what about making sure they are getting the right vitamins and minerals in their diet..

[Officially Retired]

Got it!...(no addies).... They don't need any more food being pups and all?? and what about making sure they are getting the right vitamins and minerals in their diet..

If you follow the diet in my book, that will not be a problem. I don't have time to get into it all right now, but I am in the process of trying to upload my entire "Feeding Raw DVD" ... and I will eventually have my entire chapter on nutrition ... so if you have my book, you can answer your own questions by reading the chapter, but if not I will be posting all of this info after awhile, but it is just way too much material to post right now.

Sorry if that is insufficient, but in time it will all be pretty clear.

Thanks,

Jack

[SGC]

Here is a Raw Food company with a Puppy Mix and other types, most are only $2.55 for a 2 pound tube, which is only $1.28 per pound.

I just found this brand at my local pet food store, they had a new case with frozen raw for dogs and cats. I have been feeding raw for some time and keep an eye out for quality raw dog foods at a reasonable price.

Well, this new raw food comes in a frozen tube or chub, most of them are $2.55 for a 2 pound tube. Those are the Green Tripe, Ground Chicken, Ground Turkey, Ground Venison, and a few more. Others, such as Puppy Mix, were $3.35 for a 2 pound tube, and the most expensive was $9.95 for Ground Rabbit with bone.

Here is the web site –

http://www.blueridgebeef.com/products-raw-beef-chicken.html

They have dealers in the Southeast US, and that price seems a very good value at $1.28 to $1.63 per pound for most of it. I bought a tube of the Ground Chicken, I wanted the Venison, but they were out of it.

[Officially Retired]

Nice find, SGC, and I agree the prices are reasonable.

Cruious, though, there is nothing in there but the chicken and bone, so it is not a complete diet. Also, they say it is only 5% fat, which is odd, because chicken is usually 20-30% fat, so I am curious if they throw the skin away??

Let us know when you get it, and thanks again for the link!

Jack

[SGC]

Yes, I also noticed that this food seems to be just meat and bone ground. Which is good but I agree, that is not really a complete diet.

I looked around on their web site and on the FAQ page, and found this question and reply, which I will copy & paste below –

SHOULD WE USE SUPPLEMENTS?
WELL, I DO. THESE DAYS OUR FOOD CHAIN SEEMS TO HAVE LESS AND LESS NUTRITION IN OUR FOODS, PROCESSING HAS CAUSED A LOT OF FOOD VALUE LOST, VITAMIN AND MINERALS THAT WERE PERHAPS IN THE FOOD HAVE BEEN LOST DO TO MANY MAN MADE HURRY TO THE MARKET PROCEDURES. SO YES, SUPPLEMENTS CAN BE VERY HELPFUL IN PROVIDING EXTRA ANTIOXIDANT PROTECTION AND SUPPORT FOR THE GROWING, SHOWING, AND WORKING ATHLETES WE CALL OUR FRIENDS.

They are rather vague about what needs to be supplemented.

I would think the Blue Ridge meats would need some vegetable mash added, and a multi vitamin. It’s all meat and bone so you would add what you feel is missing.

In comparison, the Nature’s Variety frozen raw has these ingredients –

Chicken –
Chicken, Raw Ground Chicken Bone, Turkey, Turkey Liver, Turkey Heart, Apples, Carrots, Butternut Squash, Ground Flaxseeds, Montmorillonite Clay

Beef –
Beef, Beef Heart, Beef Liver, Raw Ground Beef Bone, Beef Kidney, Apples, Carrots, Butternut Squash, Ground Flaxseeds, Montmorillonite Clay

Venison --
Venison, Lamb Heart, Lamb Liver, Raw Ground Lamb Bone, Apples, Carrots, Pumpkinseeds, Butternut Squash, Ground Flaxseeds, Montmorillonite Clay

So what I am seeing is you should add some vegetable matter and maybe some of the Montmorillonite clay for a more complete diet?

I also use kelp, plain yogurt, and some apple cider vinegar as supplements with any feed I use.

The Blue Ridge raw food is a good price, raw green tripe for $1.28 a pound is an excellent value.

Nature’s Variety is $12 for a 3 pound tube up here so I can certainly easily add some diced or pureed veggies to the Blue Ridge foods.

And I also wondered about the fat percentage in their Chicken as I agree, chicken is usually higher fat, and I would doubt they throw away the skin… But who knows. I guess I should write them and ask some of these questions as I would like to know more.

[widerange]

I've never ordered from any of these sites posted and just now starting to really get into raw feed I was wondering if fuses sites only deliver to stores or will they deliver to your home?

[SGC]

I've never ordered from any of these sites posted and just now starting to really get into raw feed I was wondering if fuses sites only deliver to stores or will they deliver to your home?

Each company is different. I have used Hare Today and they will ship right to you but the shipping is expensive. Big Dog Naturals will ship to your home but they have a minimum order which is quite a large size so you need to split it with someone else or have a large freezer.

Blue Ridge Beef ships to a local store so I just buy from them as needed. My Pet Carnivore makes delivery stops where you can meet them and pick up the frozen meats.

Most of them have info about the shipping on the web sites or you can call and ask.

[SGC]

I thought I had posted this here but this site has some very useful charts on the Nutritional Value of various raw meats –

http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/health/dietvalues.htm

Here is the chart on raw chicken –

http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/health/chicken.htm

That site also has many other useful articles.

[Steeldog]

Here's one I'd like to add:

http://www.balancediet.com/

Balanced Diet Premium Dog Food. I've tried Raw and a couple different dry dog feeds. My bulldog always had soft mushy stools and antibiotics worked for a short time for his overgrowth of bad bacteria in his gut. I didn't want to keep him on the meds. After receiving samples I was hooked. Shiny coat and hard stools like he's supposed to have. In fact I didn't even have to slowly transition him. It worked from the get go. I have him on the Exalt Sports Performance Moist Feed. It's consistency is like soft jerky. It smells up the whole room.
The owner Jon is a great guy to deal with. May be hard to reach by phone but responds to emails well.

[Stella]

I am sure this is talked about but I can not find it....I was wondering w/Jacks premium raw diet if you just feed 1 time per day?O split it?I was thinking that,days that I work my dogs possibly giving them a small supplement to support it but in general feeding 1 time.Is this the best strategy 1 time per day for a healthy dog?

Thanks

[SGC]

Here is a useful link on getting started with feeding raw --

http://preymodelraw.com/how-to-get-started/

[No Quarter Kennel]

I am sure this is talked about but I can not find it....I was wondering w/Jacks premium raw diet if you just feed 1 time per day?O split it?I was thinking that,days that I work my dogs possibly giving them a small supplement to support it but in general feeding 1 time.Is this the best strategy 1 time per day for a healthy dog?

Thanks

I feed my dogs, raw, every day. One feeding per day. I'm sorry I don't do what some consider the "perfect" feed program of twice a day, but my life-style dictates I feed one time per day.
In addition, my dogs get chicken quarters every single day of the week but only get their organs, oils, yogurt, etc. every other day, for 3 days per week. I call this mixture guts.
SO
I feed quarter and guts on Sunday, Tues, Thurs
I feed 2 quarters per dog on M,W,F, Sat.

Works absolutely great for my dogs.

If you like help with what I do, feel free to email me at noquarterkennel@hotmail.com
Be glad to help

[AmberLamps]

Hey NQK,

Would you be so kind to put up the recipe for your 'guts' mix?

Cheers

[No Quarter Kennel]

PM'd

[AmberLamps]

Got it bud, cheers.

[SGC]

Here is a useful link which details most of the raw food markers and what is in their foods --

http://dogaware.com/diet/rawfoods.html

I am sure there are other articles of interest on the site, it is a good reference.

[evolutionkennels]

Here is a useful link which details most of the raw food markers and what is in their foods --

http://dogaware.com/diet/rawfoods.html

I am sure there are other articles of interest on the site, it is a good reference.


Good resource

[Officially Retired]

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[Patterdale]

Hi all,

I'm new to the site but not new to the dogs.. I really like the fact that you guys support raw feedings. I've been feeding raw for many years. The dogs really thrive on it. Never had any food allergies or illness what so ever. Lots of good resources on here, I would like to add a few more that I've found helpful.

Dr. Karen Becker is real knowledgeable and supports a raw feed to the fullest. Here is a link to lots of her videos on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=karen+becker

I feed no veggies at all. I supplement with green sea products like see kelp and spirulina also add lots of oils ie. Fish and Coconut. Digestive enzymes and pre / pro biotics are good as well.

I saw this site mentioned - I use them, they are great: https://www.mypetcarnivore.com/ I also shop from here as well: http://greencuisine4pets.com/index.htm and http://www.primalpetfoods.com/. I give chicken gizzards and heats for treats.

Now that I have Patterdales it's much more cost effective than feeding a yard full of bull dogs.

[Dogmaster]

I just found this website http://www.bigdanstrucking.com/Beef-Products.html

[Officially Retired]

Be careful with only just "ground beef" ... it is not a complete nutrition profile :idea:

[Dogmaster]

click on product. They offer other products other than beef http://www.bigdanstrucking.com/Organ-Products.html http://www.bigdanstrucking.com/Extra-Products.html http://www.bigdanstrucking.com/Chicken-.html http://www.bigdanstrucking.com/Bones-Products.html

[CRISIS]

i feed ground up beef innards with chicken backs & an egg..

[bigpopdog]

:-bd

[bigpopdog]

https://whitedogbone.com/collections/frozen-pet-products