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05-05-2012, 07:53 AM
Originally written for the Mar/Apr edition of my 2003 Healthy Bulldog magazine:


Let me preface this article by saying that in most discussions with dogmen over the years I have been hesitant to share what I’m going to share with you in this article. I found early on as a young fancier, that most dog folks had a closed mind about anything that they didn’t discover on their own, or learn from someone they considered more successful than themselves. Hence, I’ve always been somewhat hesitant to share any “secrets” our kennel has used through the years. I believe the readership of The Healthy Bulldog however, to be the very type of fancier who may embrace what I plan on sharing, or at the very least give it some serious consideration.

What would be your response if someone touted a substance that had the ability to replace oxygen in the body, cure cancers of the lung, bladder, larynx, and breast, and more? A substance that has been proven effective in treating neurosis, asthma, diabetes, hypertension, cardiac insufficiency, sinus problems, neuralgia, leukemia, softening of the brain, psychosis, depression, hepatic cirrhosis, fertility problems, and burns? In fine a substance that has the ability to cure or prevent literally all illness? Certainly there are a few naysayers among our ranks, and that’s OK; please turn the page. Those who even have a hope to believe that what I’m describing is true, feel free to read on. I’m not a scientist and much of the information surrounding this substance is highly scientific. Being as I do not have a background of scientific training, I have no choice but to keep my overview of this substance somewhat basic. It is my hope that by doing so, I will be able to adequately enlighten others who have an interest in such a remarkable substance as well.

I first stumbled upon Bis Beta Carboxyethyl Germanium Sesquioxide, Ge 132, or simply “Organic Germanium” sometime in the late 1980’s. I had raised APBT’s for a few years at this point, and was just taking an interest in the sporting aspect of the dogs. My first reading on the substance was through Dr. Betty Kaman’s book. Shortly thereafter, I was also able to purchase Dr. Kazuhiko Asai’s book on this truly remarkable substance. Not only did I marvel at the possibilities that this substance potentially had on all of humanity, but I quickly realized it’s potential in the world of the sporting dogs as well. It wasn’t long after that I had the chance to begin experimenting with this substance on the working APBT. Positive results have kept us using it over the years many times, albeit not nearly enough in retrospect.

I will provide a very brief background of the raw element we know as Germanium. Russian Chemist Omitri Mendeleev not only listed known elements when he developed the periodic law, but also theorized the existence of several undiscovered elements. He left a gap in the 32nd column of his table for a substance that he predicted would be referred to as “ekasilicon.” In 1886, German Chemist Clemens Winkler succeeded in isolating the substance Mendeleev had described. In a tribute to his native homeland, he named the substance “Germanium.” For many years thereafter, Germanium received little attention form the scientific community. In 1948, however, Bell Telephone Laboratories recognized it’s superior qualities as a semi-conductor. From this point forward, Germanium became widely used in the electronics field in the development of solid-state devices. At this point, the reader may be asking himself, “What does all this have to do with curing and preventing disease?” In 1945 Dr. Kazuhiko Asai was researching Coal as an instrumental part of rebuilding post war Japan. His research had led him to discover the presence of Germanium in Coal, and how effective this element was as a semi-conductor. I quote from Dr. Asai’s book to describe his idea of Germanium as a possible health promoting substance.


“The thought came to me almost intuitively, but one day when I was dwelling on the fact that living organisms also come under the physical laws of matter, I was led to make a hypothetical supposition as to the effects that the semiconductor phenomenon would have on a living body. I was led to the assumption that Germanium might have interesting biological applications as well.”
Initially Dr. Asai discovered the importance of this element in plant life. He noticed that Germanium was contained in the vitrit or woody sections of Coal. He surmised that the Germanium was first in the plants, which were the source of the Coal. Upon further study, Dr. Asai was amazed to find that plants which were revered to have medicinal value, all had one thing in common; a high content of Germanium. These plants include widely used herbal favorites such as Shelf Fungus, Ginseng, Wisteria Knob, Aloe Vera, Comfrey, Chlorella, Garlic, and various other lesser known plants. Furthermore, upon experimenting with Germanium in the soil of various test plants, it was found that all of the plants which had Germanium added to the soil had a distinct advantage in size and hardiness. The problem with adapting this substance for human or animal consumption was that Germanium is a semi-metallic substance and not water-soluble. Dr. Asai then began to search for a way to synthesize this element with an affinity to living cells.
Remember, Dr. Asai’s research with Coal and Germanium began in 1945. From 1959 onward, his studies were no longer surrounding Coal and Germanium, but rather a way to synthesize this remarkable element as a possible preventative and healing agent for disease, which could have as dramatic effect on mankind as it did in his studies with plant matter.

I once again quote directly from Dr. Asai’s book.


“In November, 1967, a member of my research staff who stayed on, walked into the room holding a test tube of white powder. Raising it slowly, and with an expression on his face, which radiated the whole room, he uttered the words I had been waiting ten years to hear. “ Dr. Asai, the water soluble organic Germanium compound has at last been synthesized.” For the first time in my life I shed tears of joy in deep silence as a man in ecstasy. They were tears of almost a religious exaltation. The event proved to me that all of man’s struggles are not in vain. The Organic Germanium compound synthesized on that day has changed my life, and as I hope you shall see has done something good for everyone who has come in contact with it.”
Dr. Asai began experimenting on himself immediately for a severe case of rheumatoid arthritis. Within ten days he began to make a remarkable recovery. He had been under the treatment of an acupuncturist who noticed the remarkable improvement. The acupuncturist then began to give this substance to several of his patients, and all experienced a marked improvement.

At this time he also began to experiment with the use of the Organic Germanium on animals. (As an aside here, perhaps some readers question how is a synthesized compound is also an “organic” compound? As in the case of this Organic Germanium compound, anything that contains carbon is described as “organic” even if the product is synthetically manufactured.) During this time of initial experimentation with animals, Dr. Asai had a Siamese cat who had been mauled by a dog. The cat was in danger of dying due to the severity of the wounds. He began to apply dressings to the wounds with a water solution containing the Organic Germanium, and at the same time forcing him to drink of the solution. This was done in the presence of a Veterinarian. A few days later, the Veterinarian was astounded at the quick recovery of the cat saying, “he could now believe in miracles.” Dog fanciers, are you beginning to see how this substance may be of benefit to you in the care of your hunting dogs or sporting dogs? We are only beginning, so please read on!

Additionally, The substance was introduced into ponds containing sick Japanese Koi fish that were on the verge of death. In short order, they were vigorously swimming around with healthy appetites.

Many other similarly dramatic effects were seen on cats, dogs, and horses with many different ailments. One of the most impressive to me as a dog breeder was the Doberman who was imported from England to Japan, and had failed to whelp pups seven times in five years. One month prior to coming into estrus, she was given the Organic Germanium compound. She delivered ELEVEN healthy pups! Breeders, are you seeing how this “miracle cure” might help you with animals that struggle with fertility problems? One of the studies at this time that also took place with animals was that of toxicity testing. After being tested for acute, sub acute, and chronic toxicity, the substance was found to be completely nontoxic and harmless. After this assurance that it was nontoxic, Dr. Asai was able to receive financial backing for further research at his clinic.

How does the substance work one might ask? I suppose the simplistic answer may be that it enriches the body’s oxygen supply, although it goes far beyond that. Oxygen readily combines with hydrogen. The oxygen atoms of the Organic Germanium compound thus have a dehydrogenating effect on the body, which is the way in which Ge 132 helps to eliminate harmful substances in the body. For the hydrogen to be removed, we must have large quantities of Oxygen available. In a study of mice, The Ge 132 compound caused a huge decrease in Oxygen consumption in both the diaphragm and the liver. In essence, the substance acts as a substitute for Oxygen in the body. Can we see how a substance that acts as a replacement for Oxygen might keep the respiratory demands of a hard working animal at a more acceptable level? Do the dog conditioners now begin to realize what benefits this substance might have in recovery from stressful activity? In addition, the substance not only removes Hydrogen ions from the blood, but also abnormal proteins and other foreign matter. The oxidizing effect of the compound thus serves to purify the blood. Can we begin to see how this may ease stress on vital organs such as the kidneys? In short, the Ge 132 compound in essence, is like putting an oxygen mask on your dog during a show, a hunt, during work, or perhaps to an ailing dog, except you are using it as an internal substitute for Oxygen demand so that external respirations can be kept in control.

Oxygen deficit in the body can be caused by a variety of things. One reason that high Hydrogen and lower Oxygen level in the body is dangerous, it that it results in an acidic constitution. This is what some researchers believe to be the root cause of Cancer. Another factor, which results in acidic blood, is mental instability or stress. This is clearly evidenced by the fact that people who suffer from much stress often develop stomach ulcers. The hard working dog is under much stress in his life, and these stresses may be what lead to a decline in health after a dog is done with his working career. These stresses can actually be detected by measuring the “electrical potential” of each part of the body. This is what is measured when Doctors monitor the “brain waves” of a patient. Those same principles apply to each organ of the body. Organic Germanium has an interesting relationship with electrical potentials. Dr. Asai’s people demonstrated this with an automobile battery that would not start the vehicle. They were then able to start the car immediately after introducing the Ge 132 compound into the battery. Likewise, as the body has a decrease in electrical potentials, health and vitality decline. Ultimately the state we call “death” is when no electrical potentials can be detected in the body. Thus we can see the importance of keeping the electrical potentials in the body at a high functioning level to maintain health.

I have discussed already the way in which Organic Germanium acts as a blood purifier. One of the areas where Germanium excels in keeping the body toxin free is with that of metal poisoning, such as lead or mercury.

We could go on for many pages yet and fill volumes regarding the efficacy of the Ge 132 compound as a cure for a variety of conditions, as well as a preventative from illness. Personally, after using this substance for nearly 15 years on both the dogs, and myself here is my brief testimonial of what it’s done for me. I’ve often fought off the common cold and flu with amazing success by using Germanium. I’ve used it recently post-op after abdominal surgery and was up and about in about ½ the normally expected time. With previous surgery I have had the lingering effects of sluggishness from the anesthesia. While using the Ge 132, I have not suffered that lack of energy caused by the anesthesia. I believe much like the poisonous metals or other toxins in the body, the Germanium eliminated the anesthesia in short order throughout the body. Additionally, the incision site healed well ahead of the normally expected time frame. Perhaps the most dramatic effect I ever saw was with a severe sprained ankle. I had fallen over the side of a truck with my foot caught in the stake bed of the truck. The ankle was swollen nearly to the size of my calf, and was literally black with some shadowing of purple. Having suffered less severe sprains than this in the past, I know that these types of injuries are very slow healing. My initial thought was to ingest a huge amount of the Ge 132 compound to try and heal the ankle. I did just that. I took 5000-mg. of the Organic Germanium that evening before bed. In the morning, the ankle only had slight soreness, virtually no swelling, and had a slight hint of yellow bruising. I was back at work the morning after the injury, which was a hard labor job at the time and had no difficulty performing my labors. My wife was on the product while pregnant. While our daughter was born premature, she suffered none of the typical problems that most children born as early as she was have to endure, and had a very high Apgar Score of 9. In addition, she received the Ge 132 through breast-feeding as my wife stayed on regular doses of it for several months. She has never taken an antibiotic in her life at 2 years old. I attribute much of her superior health to being on Organic Germanium through much of her young life already.

In the dogs we have seen similarly remarkable results, and while not using the Germanium, we had what I would consider noticeably lesser results. The format of The Healthy Bulldog isn’t such that I will go into great detail, but suffice it to say, that the dogs perform at a very high level and go the distance in any activity while on the Organic Germanium. I like to use about 100mg. per day to help recovery during the keep, and then use a huge dose the day of the competition, somewhere between 3000-5,000 mg.within minutes of show time.

One thing I’ve learned over the years, is if you are going to get the dog functioning at that high level of a cellular and electrical “peak” during a show or hunt, it is important to continue on with liberal amounts of the Germanium for at least several days thereafter to promote quick and total recovery. I’ve also noticed that the initial urination after stressful activity while on the Germanium is much more foul looking than “normal” I believe that the Germanium scavenges all of the toxins in the body and eliminates them much more rapidly than normal. Something else that Organic Germanium does to benefit the hard working dog is actually inhibits the endorphin inhibitors in the body. What does this mean to you and I? It is well accepted by most Bulldog enthusiasts that our dogs have extremely high endorphin levels, which in part contributes to their gameness. If we can find a way to increase endorphin production in the body, we may very well add to the “gameness” of our dogs. Everyone has heard the stories of the man or woman who while in a panic lifted a car, or performed some other miraculous feat of strength. Why is it that we cannot do this every day of the week? Our bodies have inhibitors for endorphin production that reduce our strength to help avoid injury. I got a weight lifting friend of mine interested in Ge 132. He became sold on its effects while in the gym, as he’s been able to notice the superior workouts he has experienced while on the Germanium.

I believe this product can keep you and your dog yard in a state of better health than you have previously known. What is the downside to using Ge 132? The only thing negative thing about it that I have found is its price. Our friends at the FDA took note of this substance in the mid 1990’s, and put a ban on the importation of it calling it an “unregulated medicine”, because they know very well that it actually works. Sources for it in today’s market remain sketchy, as I’m sure some of it sold here in the USA is from bootleg or smuggled sources. One brand in particular that has remained committed to marketing the Ge 132, even when most companies didn’t want to hassle with the legal issues brought forth by the FDA is Jarrow Formulas. I believe this brand to be of the highest quality, regardless of where or how they have to purchase it nowadays. Most high quality health food stores carry Jarrow Formulas. Better yet, purchasing online will generally prove to be more economical. There may be other brands of Organic Germanium out there that are equal in quality, at a better price, but it’s also known that there are some substandard and inconsistent sources for the product as well. I’ve always had good luck with Jarrow and they’ve stuck with it even when it wasn’t popular to do so. Because of the cost of the product, I have generally only used it with working dogs. Looking back, I can think of several individuals on our yard over the years that I believe I could have healed with Ge 132 who had problems ranging from Hypothyroidism to fertility problems.

Whether you end up using it on your working dogs, your brood stock, geriatric dogs, or yourself, I’m sure you will begin to see as I have over the years what a magnificent health promoting substance Dr. Asai discovered. There is no single secret to success in the dogs, but I do believe that Organic Germanium is a weapon in my arsenal of secrets well worth having, and I’m sure you will too upon trying it.

By TFX

bgblok68
05-07-2012, 09:04 AM
Thanks for sharing the article. Do you have a preferred place to buy Organic Germanium?

TFX
05-08-2012, 10:17 AM
One of the old mainstay suppliers that I trust is Jarrow brand..When the FDA first tried to shut down importation of GE132 and scared most companies away, Jarrow stood firm. Karl Loren also sells legitimate GE132 on his website.

bgblok68
05-08-2012, 08:38 PM
Thanks TFX I'll check them out.

OGDOGG
12-06-2012, 05:29 AM
Great info TFX. Thanks for sharing. Should've used this a long time ago. It may have saved most of my dogs. I truly believe it saved my most recent bitch.

R2L
12-06-2012, 07:16 AM
Very interesting, thanks for sharing

OGDOGG
12-06-2012, 02:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/UQctD.jpg
This is the brand I've been using. It's $32 for this little bottle. But it's well worth the money. You will see the revive energy the dogs have the next day. I gave my bitch 500mg(5 pills) before the show and the next day, there was no swelling at all after an hour half in the box with a hard biting head and leg dog.

TFX
12-06-2012, 05:51 PM
OGDOGG, Very good grasshoppa!:lol: You have learned a valuable secret that will take you far. 5 pills is light still, you could give an entire bottle and be OK. Just keep some around for after the show, that is important. Also, you can do a little better money-wise on the Jarrow if you get the powder form and just administer it with a spoon.

TFX
12-06-2012, 06:10 PM
Keep in mind also that this article will be 10 years old this spring. As a follow up, my daughter who is almost 12 has only been on antibiotics once in her life after getting sick overseas, and my son who is almost 8 has never taken any. Think about the folks you all may know with kids, who have incessant ear infections, bronchial problems and so forth, and take antibiotics several times per year. We only run a maintenance cycle of Ge132 about once per quarter.

In addition we also use this Intramax product daily which would also be excellent in balancing the nutritional demands of your canine athletes as well.
http://store.druckerlabs.com/intraMAXinfo_s/117.htm

Because my wife is a healthcare practitioner, we buy it at wholesale. If there was enough demand, I would sell it to this board for a small markup, cheaper than it could be had anywhere else online.

OGDOGG
12-06-2012, 09:05 PM
Will do just that. I ran out and had to save 16 pills for her. Giving her 4 pills per day for 4 days straight. During those days I didn't give anything else except penicillin once per day, and 2 IV bags(under the skin), since she puked out all her food from the first day.
You wasn't kidding when you said there will be a foul odor. On the 3rd and 4th day the bathroom smelled like puss. Sure enough there was puss coming out from some of her open wounds, and there she was wagging her tail. Right there I knew the GE was working and knew she'll be alright.
If I could get it for a lower price count me in.

Jon P. Lebron
01-04-2013, 07:00 PM
I cant find it in powder only in capsules, do they still sell it in powder.

Steeldog
01-06-2013, 06:53 PM
What would a maintenance cycle of Ge132 consist of in a quarter?


Keep in mind also that this article will be 10 years old this spring. As a follow up, my daughter who is almost 12 has only been on antibiotics once in her life after getting sick overseas, and my son who is almost 8 has never taken any. Think about the folks you all may know with kids, who have incessant ear infections, bronchial problems and so forth, and take antibiotics several times per year. We only run a maintenance cycle of Ge132 about once per quarter.

In addition we also use this Intramax product daily which would also be excellent in balancing the nutritional demands of your canine athletes as well.
http://store.druckerlabs.com/intraMAXinfo_s/117.htm

Because my wife is a healthcare practitioner, we buy it at wholesale. If there was enough demand, I would sell it to this board for a small markup, cheaper than it could be had anywhere else online.

OGDOGG
01-06-2013, 07:06 PM
The capsules I get consist of 30-100mg for $32. Take one per day so do the math. If you have a healthy dog, don't bother giving it to that dog. Just use it in keeps or give it to unhealthy dogs only. It's not cheap but it works wonder. Especially after a dog gone through a tough one.

Steeldog
01-06-2013, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the info. Will definetly give it a try for use in upcoming keeps. How about for use for myself? I'm a healthy dude but am also curious about using for myself.


The capsules I get consist of 30-100mg for $32. Take one per day so do the math. If you have a healthy dog, don't bother giving it to that dog. Just use it in keeps or give it to unhealthy dogs only. It's not cheap but it works wonder. Especially after a dog gone through a tough one.

CRISIS
01-06-2013, 08:22 PM
i thought it was the powder we were looing for??

OGDOGG
01-06-2013, 11:43 PM
Ge 132 heals the body. Use it if you're in pain. Inside the capsules are powder form(100mg) You'll be amazed how small 100mg is. So getting it in powder form can be tricky to measure if that's what you're looking for.

TFX
01-10-2013, 08:32 AM
What would a maintenance cycle of Ge132 consist of in a quarter?

Oh, I'd say a bottle or two. It depends on how you are splitting it up, how large the family is etc. As long as you continue to do a number of things to scavenge toxins, balance energy, fill nutritional voids and so forth on a regular basis you should maintain better than average health. As long as I take a hundred mg per day for a few weeks every few months, I feel like I am doing OK.

TFX
01-10-2013, 08:36 AM
The capsules I get consist of 30-100mg for $32. Take one per day so do the math. If you have a healthy dog, don't bother giving it to that dog. Just use it in keeps or give it to unhealthy dogs only. It's not cheap but it works wonder. Especially after a dog gone through a tough one.

You're getting ripped off brother! Here you get twice as many pills for $3 less.
http://www.webvitamins.com/product.aspx?id=4853&ppc=true&utm_medium=cpcshoppingengine&utm_source=nextag&utm_campaign=singlefeed

TFX
01-10-2013, 08:39 AM
By the way, if you want to feel something interesting snort a line of Ge132 on one side, and leave the other side empty for a little bit. One side of your face will feel completely envigorated, and the other side will feel almost "dead" in comparison.

TFX
01-10-2013, 08:43 AM
I cant find it in powder only in capsules, do they still sell it in powder.

You guys all need to learn how to use a search engine!:embarrassed: However this outfit is currently out of stock.
http://www.vitasprings.com/organic-germanium-powder-jarrow.html

TFX
01-10-2013, 08:49 AM
I don't know about this brand, but they date back to the time frame when I began fooling with this stuff. This is 50 grams or 10 times as much as the bottle I posted above for Jon at only about 6 times the price.

http://www.exit15.com/organic-germanium-powder-grams-175-55260-p-2050.html

Steeldog
01-10-2013, 09:32 AM
Oh, I'd say a bottle or two. It depends on how you are splitting it up, how large the family is etc. As long as you continue to do a number of things to scavenge toxins, balance energy, fill nutritional voids and so forth on a regular basis you should maintain better than average health. As long as I take a hundred mg per day for a few weeks every few months, I feel like I am doing OK.

Good to go. Sounds good and makes sense.

CRISIS
01-10-2013, 10:21 AM
i went n got some raw unfiltered honey...........taking a teaspoon a day!

SGC
01-11-2013, 06:43 PM
Oh, I'd say a bottle or two. It depends on how you are splitting it up, how large the family is etc. As long as you continue to do a number of things to scavenge toxins, balance energy, fill nutritional voids and so forth on a regular basis you should maintain better than average health. As long as I take a hundred mg per day for a few weeks every few months, I feel like I am doing OK.

Thank you, that is very helpful. Plus the links to buy it.

Amazon can surprise you at times with some low prices. Here they have the Jarrow brand, bottle of 60 pills (100mg) for $23.98, with free shipping if you order $25.00 so you would only need to find some cheap thing to get the free shipping --

http://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Germanium-Organic-Capsules/dp/B0013OUKAW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357958220&sr=8-1&keywords=germanium+ge+132

I have ordered some to try. Paired it up with that old DVD movie Used Cars from the 1980s, that's a funny one... LOL

SGC
04-25-2013, 08:22 AM
Bump up for an excellent article that really should be a Sticky.

I've been reading some about the Ge 132 and here is an interesting article on its use in treating cancer --

http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/germanium.asp

Good stuff!

S_B
11-21-2014, 12:46 PM
I found this article very interesting, I've done a bit of searching after reading and have found conflicting results.



This was on the American Cancer Societies page:



Germanium

Other common name(s):*germanium sesquioxide, germanium 132, GE OXY 132, organic germanium, oxy-G2, pro-oxygen, vitamin O; other forms of organic and inorganic germanium

Scientific/medical name(s):*bis-carboxyethyl germanium sesquioxide, Ge 132

Description

Germanium is an element. Small amounts of organic germanium are found in some plant-based foods. Inorganic germanium is mined and widely used as a semiconductor in the electronics industry. Both organic and inorganic germanium have been sold as dietary supplements, though the organic forms are more commonly used today. Ge-132 is a compound that contains germanium, carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. It is often called*organic germanium, because chemists refer to carbon-containing compounds as organic. This might confuse some people, since the word “organic” in also used in non-technical language to describe “natural” products. However, Ge-132 does not occur naturally and is a synthetic (man-made) substance.

Overview

Available scientific evidence does not support claims that germanium supplements are effective in preventing or treating cancer in humans, and there are numerous reports showing that they may be harmful. A study conducted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reported that supplements containing germanium present a potential hazard to humans. As a result, the FDA issued an “Import Alert,” which allows germanium imports to be seized if they are to be used as a food supplement. However, the amount and type of germanium naturally found in foods do not appear to be toxic.

How is it promoted for use?

Proponents claim germanium can be used to treat leukemia and cancers of the lung, bladder, larynx, breast, and uterus. They also claim it can help neurosis, asthma, diabetes, hypertension, cardiac insufficiency, Parkinson’s disease, neuralgia, chronic fatigue, hepatitis, and cirrhosis of the liver. Supporters say germanium stimulates the body's production of interferon, a naturally occurring anti-cancer agent. Some say that it helps the immune system by boosting the activity of natural killer cells, a type of white blood cell that attacks invading germs.

What does it involve?

Germanium supplements are available in powdered form and in capsules ranging from 35 to 500 milligrams. There is no standardized dose. These supplements are available in health food stores and over the Internet.

What is the history behind it?

The late Dr. Kazuhiko Asai of Japan began investigating the biological properties of germanium after reading reports from Russia that said the mineral had tremendous therapeutic value. In 1969, Dr. Asai founded the Asai Germanium Research Institute. He reported that he had developed a way to produce germanium that was chemically identical to the germanium extracted from plants. Dr. Asai also found that germanium was present in many common herbal remedies, including ginseng, garlic, comfrey, and aloe.

Dr. Otto Warburg, a Nobel Prize winning biochemist, stated that germanium helped to increase the delivery of oxygen to cells. He believed that boosting the oxygen supply to healthy cells slowed the growth of tumors.

What is the evidence?

Available scientific evidence does not support claims that germanium supplements promote health or increase the body's production of interferon. It also does not support the claim that germanium is an essential nutrient in animals or humans.

A study conducted by the FDA found at least 31 cases of kidney failure linked to germanium products. A number of deaths have also been reported. Most of these effects were from inorganic forms of germanium, but the FDA has also found severe kidney damage in people taking germanium that was sold as organic.

Because of the way it is processed, organic germanium is easily contaminated with inorganic germanium, which appears to be more toxic than the organic form. It is uncertain whether the kidney damage and other toxic effects reported in people who took organic germanium were actually caused by the supplement’s contamination with inorganic germanium. Because of this problem with purity, supplements containing germanium of any sort might pose a hazard to humans.

In the early 1980s, small studies were done using germanium on people with various types of cancer. In the first study, even those who received the lowest doses had toxic effects, and none of the patients got better. Later, a group of 25 patients were given spirogermanium (an organic germanium product) 3 times a week for 2 weeks. Most patients got worse, and toxic side effects were common. Because of these results—many toxic effects and little effect on the cancer—studies on spirogermanium were stopped.

In 2005, researchers in Arizona started a study to find out if taking pure organic germanium (bis-carboxyethylgermanium sequioxide) might help with radiation-related fatigue. The patients, who have early stage prostate cancer or breast cancer, will be watched carefully for side effects and abnormal laboratory values. The study is still going on, and is expected to finish at the end of 2012.

Are there any possible problems or complications?

This product is sold as a dietary supplement in the United States. Unlike companies that produce drugs (which must be tested before being sold), the companies that make supplements are not required to prove to the Food and Drug Administration that their supplements are safe or effective, as long as they don't claim the supplements can prevent, treat, or cure any specific disease.

Some such products may not contain the amount of the herb or substance that is on the label, and some may include other substances (contaminants). Actual amounts per dose may vary between brands or even between different batches of the same brand. In 2007, the FDA wrote new rules to improve the quality of manufacturing for dietary supplements and the proper listing of supplement ingredients. But these rules do not address the safety of the ingredients or their effects on health.

Most such supplements have not been tested to find out if they interact with medicines, foods, or other herbs and supplements. Even though some reports of interactions and harmful effects may be published, full studies of interactions and effects are not often available. Because of these limitations, any information on ill effects and interactions below should be considered incomplete.

Germanium supplements may pose danger for humans. Several deaths have been reported in the medical literature, with serious illness in some who survived. While organic germanium appears to be less toxic than inorganic germanium, it has been reported to cause kidney damage, liver changes, and heart problems. Other reported effects include anemia, poor appetite, weight loss, nausea, vomiting, tiredness, muscle weakness, skin rashes, and numbness in the hands and feet due to nerve damage. The toxic effects build up over time and get worse the longer it is taken. Many of these effects improve after the supplement is stopped, but kidney and nerve damage persisted and became chronic for some people.

Germanium may interfere with certain other medicines and may make seizures worse. Drugs for which side effects include kidney problems may be more likely to cause harm if taken with germanium. Very little testing during pregnancy has been reported, but at least one form of germanium caused ill effects on fetuses in animal tests. Women who are pregnant or breast-feeding should not take germanium. At this time, germanium is not recommended as a dietary supplement for anyone due to the potential for serious health hazards.

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SGC
11-23-2014, 09:37 AM
Thanks for posting that article. Did you find any updates for the study mentioned that was to conclude in 2012?

This one --

In 2005, researchers in Arizona started a study to find out if taking pure organic germanium (bis-carboxyethylgermanium sequioxide) might help with radiation-related fatigue. The patients, who have early stage prostate cancer or breast cancer, will be watched carefully for side effects and abnormal laboratory values. The study is still going on, and is expected to finish at the end of 2012.


I will look on line for it when I have some free time...

CYJ
11-23-2014, 01:28 PM
Will post a little till my subscription expires. I worked a good many years with a Professional Herbalist up till a year or so ago. I had retired from Bell South with a full retirement after 31 years service and at only forty nine years old. I worked a part time job with the GNC store for a few years and later with a private owned Herbalist store part time. Just enough hours to learn about Herbal products etc.

I have often thought of trying Germanium, and may do so in the near future. Nature's Sunshine a top of the line Herbal company sells a Germanium product. One of the very best internet companies to buy most top brand Herbal etc. products, is a company named LuckyVitamin.com. Any orders over $49.00 has free shipping and most products are sold at whole sale price or a much lower discount retail price.

Lucky Vitamins does carry the Yarrow Germanium GE132 brand in two bottle sizes and strengths along with some other company brands as well. This Lucky Vitamin company also carries all the Now Food products which is another top of the line Herbal Company etc. Cheers

CYJ
11-23-2014, 07:48 PM
If you are interested in single Herbs or Herbal Formulas. There is a well researched book that is not expensive to buy at most book stores. This book is titled 4 blood types, 4 diets, Eat Right for (4) Your Type. The Author is Dr. Peter J. D' Adamo. This book's info will help you make better choices. No matter how good a Herb is written up and it's claims. Could be very wrong for you due to your blood type. This book covers all food groups as well. Bee pollen has been mentioned, will work for many people and our dogs. But I can not take it. I can not take raw honey, as it raises my blood sugar to fast. I can take extra strong pure Black Strap molasses with no problem. Pure Black Strap Molasses will do a person or dog much better than pure honey. Add Desiccated Liver and you have a strong blood count builder.

I suffered badly with acid reflux for years, a serious sinus infections that required surgery, that fixed nothing. I now take my correct digestive enzymes, along with low sodium seltzer water, take pure Lemon juice also. Some blood types do better on Bragg's Vinegar.

I quit drinking cow milk and replaced it with Almond milk. All my reflux and sinus problems long gone now for years. Taking those over the counter acid reflux pills will shut down your proton pumps. Allowing undigested food to be dumped over into the large intestine. Over time may created other bowel problems and other auto immune diseases. Most of our health problems originate in the bowels from wrong eating and harmful life styles.

The Herbal Company that has the best Herbal formulas including Chinese Herbal formulas is the Natures Sunshine Company, but are not cheap. The Now Food company runs a strong second with much better prices through the LuckyVitiman internet company. Now food's have a top of the line prostrate product for men. The Now company is owned and monitored by M.D./ Dr. Balch. The Natures Sunshine company is owned by the Mormons from Salt Lake City.

One other thing to learn that will help a lot. Learn what muscle testing means and how to properly do it. No matter the claim, muscle test yourself on the product you are going to buy. It may not be right for you even if the Blood type book says so or it's own company write up says so.

In closing Dr. Peter J. D' Adamo has two new books specifically on Cancer and Diabetes. They are much stricter and list a Super Beneficial listing/Beneficial listing/Neutral listing and Avoid listing. Hope some of this info helps and keeps you from wasting your money. Cheers

S_B
11-24-2014, 09:16 PM
CYJ,

Thank you for sharing your experience, especially about the reflux. I'm thinking of omitting milk, coke is being phased out of my diet completely. As much as I love it, I certainly feel much better not drinking it.

That has helped with the reflux issue.

TFX
03-06-2015, 06:45 AM
I just stumbled back onto this old topic. SB, the FDA has been trying to shut down any effective supplement they can't regulate since ........forever. I mentioned that in the article. These kidney failures mentioned in the FDA blurb came from "germanium products". Basically, this is a result of unscrupulous people selling something other than Ge132 to uninformed people, and Ge132 gets blamed. You have to read through their.carefully worded stuff pretty carefully. When they talk "scientific evidence", was Dr. Asai not involving the scientific method in his development and testing of Ge132 over a number of decades? I submit he was. Outfits like the FDA are the same bozos that tell you not to touch the stuff inside of a thermometer, but tell you it's safe to inject your kids with it. I don't trust them.

meathead
04-21-2015, 09:22 AM
TFX if you give 100mg for a keep and 3000 to 5000 before how much do you give after and the days following

BLADE
10-24-2016, 12:18 PM
It's been awhile since this topic was discussed. Is any one using it in keep or otherwise that can give feedback on wether or not it's worth using?

kid
10-27-2016, 08:45 AM
i think so i just messed around with it but i added a lot of other supplements spiraling what grass protein glutamine creatine vitamins and oils i tried it with my house so i could really see the difference and there was she is already a high strung dog and if i don't run her a lot she gets destructive but after a few weeks of the supplements she was in better shape then i got my germanium and a few weeks after that she was to crazy high strung to deal with and got in even better shape and iv ran this dog her hole life and she is always in pretty good shape after all that she doubled her time in her work outs is pretty short time and wonted to go more without running hot it got to the point were i was worried about her pads and hand to make her stop. i will use it from now on and I'm a believer . i haven't tried it in a hunt or a hog pin but i would like to see what happens in a the pin first

kid
10-27-2016, 08:47 AM
spirulina

BONEDADDY
05-24-2024, 03:30 PM
Anyone still using this?