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OGDOGG
05-06-2012, 06:49 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/377342.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=377342)
Did this breeding last year. They're acting great. This little bitch is on fire!
3/4 VG blood

OGDOGG
05-06-2012, 06:58 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/421568.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=421568)
This one is bad to the bone. He finished his litter mate brother in a kennel accident.
50% VG blood

OGDOGG
05-06-2012, 07:03 PM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/401160.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=401160)
This dude is calm but recklessly crazy like his dad when it's on.
50% VG blood

Officially Retired
05-06-2012, 07:27 PM
Boy that top one sure took after the center part of his pedigree, Screaming Icon most especially.

The middle one looks like an inbred Poncho/Scremer dog, and the bottom dog has Green Eyes' (Adrian Peterson's height), but a totally different look to him than my dogs.

Interesting.

OGDOGG
05-06-2012, 08:24 PM
She sure does look like her grand daddy. Her attitude is 100% Vise-Grip(Intense,energetic,happy go lucky type)
And once that do or die click in her head, it's on! Her and the white one were best friends one minute, next minute they're trying to kill one another. Creamer's attitude is exactly like the female's except he's fight crazy. Baby Blonka takes after Blonka in looks and attitude. Like I told one of my partner "as long as SuperStar is around, we better stick em to all our bitches and we'll have show quality dogs every year."

lbd
05-07-2012, 04:18 AM
They look good!

OGDOGG
05-07-2012, 09:24 PM
They look good!

Thank you

OGDOGG
05-18-2012, 02:28 PM
I've noticed BB's(white pup)front wrist is wobbly at times. He's been like that ever since he was around 4 months. I thought maybe he's not getting enough sun so he's been on the chain for about 4 weeks. Today I took him off the chain to run around and his left front wrist is still a little wobbly. He's been fed raw since I weaned them off the mom(4 weeks)he's the only one that I noticed with wobbly wrist. Gucosamine/chondroitin(750/60
0 mg- liquid form) thinking about adding this to his feed. Any other suggestions is appreciated.

OGDOGG
06-16-2012, 06:16 AM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/377342.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=377342)
Did this breeding last year. They're acting great. This little bitch is on fire!
3/4 VG blood
Weigh her today and she's only 24 pounds at 8 months old. I hope she'll atleast make 30.

OGDOGG
06-16-2012, 06:23 AM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/421568.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=421568)
This one is bad to the bone. He finished his litter mate brother in a kennel accident.
50% VG blood
My partner said this guy weigh 33 pounds at 10 months old. Might be able to find something for him;)

OGDOGG
06-16-2012, 06:27 AM
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/401160.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=401160)
This dude is calm but recklessly crazy like his dad when it's on.
50% VG blood
He weigh 27 pounds at 10 month. I'm hoping he'll get to 35 pounds by the age of 2.

Officially Retired
06-16-2012, 06:31 AM
8 lbs is a lot of weight to hope for :D

OGDOGG
06-16-2012, 02:26 PM
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OGDOGG
06-16-2012, 02:30 PM
He gained 6 pounds the past 2 month and his athlectisim improved a bit. He reminds me of his unclehttp://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/369789.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=369789)
In the box. Not athletic, above average mouth, dead game type of dog. One trait he has that Ch Buddy don't have is he don't quit in workout. He got that from his daddy.
His brother http://i.imgur.com/P9xky.jpgThe Terminator is a quick, strong, fast lane bulldog who's looking more like an Ace each time he's being looked at. Our line up just got better and by next year, these Young Prospects are going to make some noise.

R2L
06-16-2012, 03:25 PM
dead game type of dog

cmon man how postiive do i got to be on this forum

earn that title and dont talk shit

peoples best buddies died making that one dead game scratch you got a PUP

OGDOGG
06-16-2012, 04:43 PM
cmon man how postiive do i got to be on this forum

earn that title and dont talk shit

peoples best buddies died making that one dead game scratch you got a PUP
The only one talking shit around here is you Buddy. These are my dogs so sit back and take a chill pill. Follow this thread about my Young Prospects until their career are over and you might learn a lil something something. Please raise your hands next time before you jump in and make false accusations.:embarrassed:

R2L
06-16-2012, 05:13 PM
dont call me buddy

stop talking shit

OGDOGG
06-16-2012, 05:28 PM
dont call me buddy

stop talking shit
I don't get you. Who am I talking shit about?

Officially Retired
06-16-2012, 06:43 PM
R2L, the only one talking shit here is you. OGDog has said nothing unfriendly, only you have.

If OGDog wants to say his dog acts like he's dead game, that is not talking shit that his what his impression is.

I understand what you mean, R2L, that the dog is not a proven DG dog ... and I know OGDog understands that as well ... he is just saying he acts that way.

Thus you are the one talking shit here--and you need to knock it off.

I have had several dogs that I thought were dead game, that never actually proved it. Red Sonja and Super Red were two bitches. for example, that I would bet my life on were DG.

Me saying "I think they're dead game," and me saying "They are proven DG," are not the same statement, and you need to have the intelligence to recognize the difference in these two statements.

You are not the "gameness police" here, R2L, and you don't have a lock on what it means to be game. If a person wants to say that they think their dog exhibits so much gameness in school that they believe they are DG that is their right to believe what they want.

Saying a live dog is "proven" dead game is a false statement ... I agree with this ... but saying he "acts" like a DG dog is a subjective impression.

Jack

R2L
06-17-2012, 12:45 AM
i do think its a crazy statement to say about a pup, also if it "acts", thats just me then.
but if it wernt for a good friend losing his best dog and best buddy yesterday making an insane scratch and me not drinking way to much alcohol, i wouldnt have said it (that way)
i apology ogdogg. the sober me doesnt mean to offend you :cheers:

OGDOGG
06-17-2012, 02:05 AM
i do think its a crazy statement to say about a pup, also if it "acts", thats just me then.
but if it wernt for a good friend losing his best dog and best buddy yesterday making an insane scratch and me not drinking way to much alcohol, i wouldnt have said it (that way)
i apology ogdogg. the sober me doesnt mean to offend you :cheers:
It's all good R2L. If you said those things about your dogs or pups I would've believed you. Who am I to tell you your dogs aren't DG? More power to you if that's what you think about them. I've bred, raised and showed plenty of dogs to know what I'm talking about. I don't let my dogs sit on the chain until maturity and finally see what they have in them. I like to spend time with them everyday as much time as I could and when I do that, man you be surprise how much you missed out if you hadn't spend those times with them.
I was comparing that white pup to My Ch Buddy dog. There's a good reason why I made that statement. I know a lot about my own dogs that's why.
Jack, thanks for understanding where i'm coming from.

Officially Retired
06-17-2012, 02:09 AM
i do think its a crazy statement to say about a pup, also if it "acts", thats just me then.
but if it wernt for a good friend losing his best dog and best buddy yesterday making an insane scratch and me not drinking way to much alcohol, i wouldnt have said it (that way)
i apology ogdogg. the sober me doesnt mean to offend you :cheers:

I totally understand the need to respect the whole concept of a truly dead game dog my friend.

But I think we all have seen certain dogs who, though the may not have proven to be dead game, nonetheless are so far beyond the ordinary dog in their intensity that we feel something about them, that they really would be that game, if we took them that far.

I know I have felt that about certain dogs, that they were just way beyond the ordinary dog in their intense love of combat. So, though I never made the dog "prove" it was dead game, I just felt that they would be that game if I did so.

Jack

OGDOGG
06-17-2012, 05:49 AM
Okay so I start the weaning process at 3 weeks and got them off by 4 weeks. (On raw) They got their shots and dewormer as scheduled. By 8 weeks, I gave them knuckle bones to chew on. The reason for this is hopefully itll strengthen their mouth. Each pup have their own knuckle bone up until 4 months old(when their baby teeth falls off then I'll take it away and they'll never see it again.) The reason why I do this is because they could crack their teeth from chewing on them. All the pups are separated and are on their own. I would work the older dogs on the hide and slat or flirt pole and let the pups see what's going on. I start them off with Kong balls instead of hides.(for health issues) I let them get used to the slat by putting them on it everyday even though they're not doing anything. Usually by 12 weeks, they know how to flirt with a small kong ball on it and run the slat by this age. One trick I use on distracted pups that don't focus very well is chain them to a spot and tease them with a kong ball. It usually don't take long for them to stay focus. Do this as often as possible and they will be hot! When they go nuts cause they want to work, that's when I let them work on the spring pole in twos. They'll start showing their dominance when they bump each other. By 6 months, they're turned on and there's no going back to being pups. Now they're young prospects.
That's how I raise these pups. I know the majority don't do it the way I do but maybe it'll give someone else a better idea of raising their pups.

Abe
06-17-2012, 10:16 AM
i do think its a crazy statement to say about a pup, also if it "acts", thats just me then.
but if it wernt for a good friend losing his best dog and best buddy yesterday making an insane scratch and me not drinking way to much alcohol, i wouldnt have said it (that way)
i apology ogdogg. the sober me doesnt mean to offend you :cheers:
Much respect to your response and your friend awesome dog !

R2L
06-20-2012, 10:41 AM
Nothing personal ogdogg.
Jack, i think there is a difference between pups and adult dogs who've had some real resistance. I actually think its better to think a dog would be dead game and pick it up on time then to make him prove it.

R2L
06-20-2012, 10:47 AM
http://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img/n/608781/
9mnths

OGDOGG
06-20-2012, 03:53 PM
That is a very nice looking dog R2L. Does he weigh about 40 lb?
The litter Baby Blonka and The Terminator has a variety of weights. Baby Blonka is about 27 lb, Terminator is 33, the only female weighs 35, Manny 40 lb and white Fang 45 lb.
As for the lil female litter, they're all under 30.

R2L
06-20-2012, 04:04 PM
thanks. very nice, i like em best from 15 to 20 kg. not sure what it is in lbs
this fella weighs 19 kilo, which i think will also be around his final weight, still got some puppy fatt.

OGDOGG
06-20-2012, 05:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/OLTie.jpg19kg is about 41lbs. I've won many bets with people just looking at dogs and guessing their weights but of course not for money or beer just a friendly bet. The black dog on top is Manny. He was 40 lbs at 8 months. Not sure how much more he grew. And the red/white head female is a sister to Head strong. You could see the difference in size between the two litter. I also like mine to be 30-40 lbs also. Anything bigger than that then they gotta go. Smaller dogs=less food to feed and easier to handle.

OGDOGG
06-30-2012, 08:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/jVy4g.jpg
Lil gyp has tough skin. So far she hasn't been punctured. ACE??
http://i.imgur.com/6zfjd.jpg
This guy here needs a lot of work but I think he'll be fine as he get older http://i.imgur.com/J4IWc.jpg
Rough and fast. ACE??

Nash
07-01-2012, 02:03 AM
Great pics OGDOGG i like the young gun in the middle the most. Real happy expression in his face.

Officially Retired
07-01-2012, 06:51 AM
The one on the top is a clone to Screaming Icon :shocked:

OGDOGG
07-01-2012, 07:09 AM
Great pics OGDOGG i like the young gun in the middle the most. Real happy expression in his face.
Thanks Nash. He sure is a happy camper. I like him a lot. He was actually the one nobody wanted. I gave away a few good ones to my partners. And sold the other litter mates. All the ones I knew about were turned on around 5-6 month old and the ones that were pets, their owners are very satisfy with them. They said them pups don't know when to stop playing.:lol:
http://i.imgur.com/SJk5c.jpg

OGDOGG
07-01-2012, 07:29 AM
The one on the top is a clone to Screaming Icon :shocked:
So far that's about the only trait and (stalking), that she has from him. When release off her chain, this little gyp
will run around the yard nonstop. She has good wrestling skills and her skin is as tough as GreenEyes. She litterally got mopped by Creamer who was 6 pounds heavier for a good 4 minutes and came out with no visible wounds whatsoever. Afterwards she went about her business like nothing happened. Creamer is not soft mouth either, he killed his brother in a wreck in :20 minutes. So far she been in three sessions and hasn't had a punctured wound.

Officially Retired
07-01-2012, 08:02 AM
How did the wreck happen?

OGDOGG
07-01-2012, 08:39 AM
How did the wreck happen?
They(Creamer and Jr. Ap) lived together and were best friends since my partner got them from me. They were sent back to me at 6 months old because he was in a coma. They stayed together in a kennel when they got here too. There's no peace around here. My dogs like to talk shit. Creamer somehow got turned on and killed Jr. I dont know, dogs seem to act different when they come to my place.

skipper
07-01-2012, 08:59 AM
Now that is a lesson learned the hard way. Sorry for your loss. Never trust a bulldog not to fight.

OGDOGG
07-01-2012, 06:30 PM
I didn't think they were going to get turned on at 6 months. They were only there a week and that happened. Creamer is back with my partner soon after that when he got out of the hospital. Ever since then he became a fight crazy pup.