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CitySwamp
12-24-2011, 04:02 PM
I know Silverback is the prime source now and might not have "Poncho" in him but is off Poncho littermate sister. Where are the Poncho dogs at? And where are the Poncho/Cola dogs at? And what are those beautiful hounds Black Storm(Heavy Poncho/Cola/Silver) and Iron Golem (Silver/Poncho) producing if bred at all yet?

Icedogger
12-24-2011, 05:13 PM
some Poncho/Cola on my yard very good dogs

Rainman
12-25-2011, 07:43 AM
Iron Golem was never bred. He is gone because of kidney/liver -problems. Don't know exactly if he ate something poisoned or what was that. Maybe Jack knows.

Ipk
12-26-2011, 04:10 PM
here are a few of mine!!! :D :D

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=210880
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http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=413155
:shock: :shock:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=411710
:shock: :shock:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=412865
:shock: :shock:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=411711
:shock: :shock:
VERY BLESSED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE...

FACE203
12-26-2011, 04:45 PM
here are a few of mine!!! :D :D

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=210880
:shock: :shock:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=328009
:shock: :shock:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=411710
:shock: :shock:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=412865
:shock: :shock:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=411711
:shock: :shock:
VERY BLESSED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE...

Indeed you are!!! Some nice combinations :)

Officially Retired
12-26-2011, 04:53 PM
I know Silverback is the prime source now and might not have "Poncho" in him but is off Poncho littermate sister. Where are the Poncho dogs at? And where are the Poncho/Cola dogs at? And what are those beautiful hounds Black Storm(Heavy Poncho/Cola/Silver) and Iron Golem (Silver/Poncho) producing if bred at all yet?

There are Poncho dogs here and there, with concentrations in NM, TX, AL, SC, etc.

There aren't too many Poncho/Coca Cola dogs left, but some of them are advertised at stud in the Classified, with I am sure more to follow.

I believe Black Storm was stolen, and yes Iron Golem died without ever being bred. (Just sent his owner another Silverback dog earlier in the year Silverback/SarahConnor.)

Jack


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Ipk
12-26-2011, 06:49 PM
hey jack what about jason bourne was anything ever bred down from him?

Officially Retired
12-27-2011, 02:25 AM
hey jack what about jason bourne was anything ever bred down from him?

Unfortunately, I lost track of the owner of Jason Bourne.

Jack


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YigYang
12-27-2011, 07:08 AM
My partner own duke nukem and he is fine working bulldog
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... g_id=39873 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=39873)

I run the zukill strain of the poncho dogs and he was the baddest i ve ever seen

Rainman
12-27-2011, 08:02 AM
I run the zukill strain of the poncho dogs and he was the baddest i ve ever seen

Got any peds of them?

YigYang
12-27-2011, 08:10 AM
havnt put theem up yet but i have a brother to this male
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... g_id=89797 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=89797)

The sugar and son dogs are my hounds father. I will post pics but i have a boy name spyder and gym zaiyyer
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... g_id=91210 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=offspring&dog_id=91210)

Ipk
12-27-2011, 08:34 AM
Unfortunately, I lost track of the owner of Jason Bourne.

Jack

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Bummer...
What about ponchas brother red bull... Any breedings coming down from him?

Officially Retired
12-27-2011, 11:09 AM
havnt put theem up yet but i have a brother to this male
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... g_id=89797 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=89797)

The sugar and son dogs are my hounds father. I will post pics but i have a boy name spyder and gym zaiyyer
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... g_id=91210 (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=offspring&dog_id=91210)

Nice to see that blood still around YigYang, and love your Avatar :)

Officially Retired
12-27-2011, 11:11 AM
Bummer...
What about ponchas brother red bull... Any breedings coming down from him?

Nick bred him to Ch Shiver but it didn't take ... they're afraid Red Bull might be sterile, which would be a shame.

How is Poncha doing and do you have any current pics?

Jack

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wrongway
12-27-2011, 01:26 PM
I also would like to see a recent pic of poncha. I actually owned her for a about a month and sent her back because she was really tiny. I actually regret i did that. How much does she weigh now?

Ipk
12-28-2011, 10:55 AM
jack can't get these pics to upload from this particular droid. If I emailed them to you would you possibly have the time to put them on here? (i won't be around a computer for a couple days)

And wrongway,
she is still little bout 33 lbs. (human intelligent, super responsive, and fast as lightning,)

YigYang
12-28-2011, 01:32 PM
the reason your images are unable to be unloaded is because these new smartphones have great megapixels are produce quility large iimage size pictures.
And the larger the picture the more (KB)............... Maximum dimensions; width: 150 pixels, height: 150 pixels, file size: 9.77 KiB.

Ipk
12-28-2011, 02:22 PM
the reason your images are unable to be unloaded is because these new smartphones have great megapixels are produce quility large iimage size pictures.
And the larger the picture the more (KB)............... Maximum dimensions; width: 150 pixels, height: 150 pixels, file size: 9.77 KiB.

great advice... But already tried that... File attachment is just not working for me... (not sure why... I probably just need to root my phone...)

Icedogger
12-28-2011, 02:32 PM
Show some of Angel to please

Ipk
12-28-2011, 02:57 PM
You got it brother. Probably be a couple days till I get to a computer though.

Officially Retired
12-28-2011, 03:51 PM
Email your photos (with labels) to administrator@thepitbullbible.com

Icedogger
12-28-2011, 06:30 PM
IPK's Poncha
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/413151.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=413151)

Icedogger
12-28-2011, 06:31 PM
Irish Pharaoh's Angle Boy
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pictures/413155.jpg (http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Pedigrees&file=printPedigree&dog_id=413155)

Icedogger
12-28-2011, 06:34 PM
Irish I'll let you do the rest my friend I think I got them all with there peds. All the dogs are looking damn good

Ipk
12-28-2011, 07:19 PM
Thank you again icedogger.

And jack I'll take some new pics of poncha tomorrow and get them posted when I reach a computer. Also poncha is doing great. Couldn't be happier... Thanks again!

redmistkennel
12-28-2011, 07:24 PM
very nice dogs Ipk

Ipk
12-28-2011, 07:32 PM
Thank you redmistkennel...

Jack, so what ever happened to brahma and taurus, were they ever bred?

Slickwitit
08-10-2012, 09:36 PM
436083... He was a one good 1, I wish I knew than what I know now!!

Ez Country
10-06-2012, 04:19 PM
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=8396

A favorite for sure

pig mad
10-06-2012, 04:51 PM
Poncho basicaly a patricks dog?

ponchday
10-09-2012, 01:37 PM
Here's my poncho dog
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=310
Very happy with him.

Milky
10-22-2012, 01:55 AM
I've like to get some info about these animals if anyone got any and would like to share it.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5803

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5804

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=225

Officially Retired
10-22-2012, 08:23 AM
Give me till this evening ... gotta go to the USDA right now :)

evolutionkennels
10-22-2012, 09:53 AM
Give me till this evening ... gotta go to the USDA right now :)



What a pain in the ass the usda is. Anyway, when I was in north Carolina... many moon's ago, I saw a deadgame crawling dog that should have been picked up. After the fact.. I asked how the he'll the dog was bred thinking it was a rbj dog. I asked and the dbag owner said it was a poncho dog. That was my first experience with a visegrip dog and to this day, haven't seen one stop. And That's why I added it to my program.

CRISIS
10-22-2012, 10:01 AM
Im sparkin an interest in this stuff lately.....

Officially Retired
10-22-2012, 04:20 PM
I've like to get some info about these animals if anyone got any and would like to share it.

Hornet (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5803)

LuLu (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5804)

Bandana (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=225)


Vise-Grip's Hornet was a littermate to EZ's Chase (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5376) and Chita (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5377), both super producers, but was rolled only once, into a Frisco dog. Hornet beat this dog, but it didn't go long. I only bred to him once, because the guy I sold him to never looked at him really, and at the time I had Stormbringer, Poncho, Duke Nukem, etc., so I just didn't care too much about Hornet. Well, based on the all-game litter he threw (bred to LuLu), including the truly great Ch Mr. Serious, and based on the incredible success of EZ's bloodline (based on his sister/brother), I should have bred to Hornet A LOT ... but just didn't.

Vise-Grip's LuLu was a mean, rough bitch. She was bred (untouched) to Hornet to produce Mr. Serious (see this thread (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/showthread.php?1083)), but after she had the pups, I rolled her into Hornet's other sister Zipper (who was smaller). Zipper outclassed the shit out of LuLu, but when LuLu's size caught up with Zipper (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=970), she wrecked her pretty bad. LuLu was very rough and powerful, but a little slow and crude for my taste, so I sold her to Pine Top Kennels. He matched her into Celtic Club Kennels, and LuLu weathered an early storm, and scratched on her chin to stop their bitch in like 1:06 I think. She produced Ch Mr. Serious when bred to Hornet, and another Champion when bred to a Boyles dog.

Vise-Grip's Bandana was pure poison. She was lightning-fast and stronger than most any 3 dogs her own weight, and is behind several phenomenally-powerful animals (Ch Vengence (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1126) / Ch Tulipa 4xW (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7382), etc.). Bandana only had one gear: FORWARD ... and at 30 lb she could push/smash 35 lb bitches into the corner and would root into their kidneys and guts. No dog ever made Bandana take a backward step. Ever. Not one time. She could be controlled on the head by certain ace head dogs (Jezebel (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7382) / Cherry Coke (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7775) / Stone Rose (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11015)) ... but if you were not an A+ head dog, she would be buried in your kidneys, or wearing your stomach like a hat, shaking the bejesus out of you. Any dog that could not keep Bandana out had to be picked up immediately.

Jack

Milky
10-22-2012, 04:24 PM
Thnx for the info, Jack!

Officially Retired
10-22-2012, 05:06 PM
What a pain in the ass the usda is. Anyway, when I was in north Carolina... many moon's ago, I saw a deadgame crawling dog that should have been picked up. After the fact.. I asked how the he'll the dog was bred thinking it was a rbj dog. I asked and the dbag owner said it was a poncho dog. That was my first experience with a visegrip dog and to this day, haven't seen one stop. And That's why I added it to my program.

You ain't lying. Drove an hour to the USDA and they claimed I used the wrong form, so had to drive back to my vet, get another form filled, and an hour back to the USDA again. So "pain in the ass" is an understatement :angry:

Jack

PS: Exceptional gameness has been a hallmark of these dogs ... do you remember which one you saw that day? Was it owned by Eloheem?

SGC
10-22-2012, 05:17 PM
Vise-Grip's Hornet was a littermate to EZ's Chase (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5376) and Chita (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=5377), both super producers, but was rolled only once, into a Frisco dog. Hornet beat this dog, but it didn't go long. I only bred to him once, because the guy I sold him to never looked at him really, and at the time I had Stormbringer, Poncho, Duke Nukem, etc., so I just didn't care too much about Hornet. Well, based on the all-game litter he threw (bred to LuLu), including the truly great Ch Mr. Serious, and based on the incredible success of EZ's bloodline (based on his sister/brother), I should have bred to Hornet A LOT ... but just didn't.

Vise-Grip's LuLu was a mean, rough bitch. She was bred (untouched) to Hornet to produce Mr. Serious (see this thread (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/showthread.php?1083)), but after she had the pups, I rolled her into Hornet's other sister Zipper (who was smaller). Zipper outclassed the shit out of LuLu, but when LuLu's size caught up with Zipper (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=970), she wrecked her pretty bad. LuLu was very rough and powerful, but a little slow and crude for my taste, so I sold her to Pine Top Kennels. He matched her into Celtic Club Kennels, and LuLu weathered an early storm, and scratched on her chin to stop their bitch in like 1:06 I think. She produced Ch Mr. Serious when bred to Hornet, and another Champion when bred to a Boyles dog.

Vise-Grip's Bandana was pure poison. She was lightning-fast and stronger than most any 3 dogs her own weight, and is behind several phenomenally-powerful animals (Ch Vengence (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=1126) / Ch Tulipa 4xW (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7382), etc.). Bandana only had one gear: FORWARD ... and at 30 lb she could push/smash 35 lb bitches into the corner and would root into their kidneys and guts. No dog ever made Bandana take a backward step. Ever. Not one time. She could be controlled on the head by certain ace head dogs (Jezebel (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7382) / Cherry Coke (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=7775) / Stone Rose (http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11015)) ... but if you were not an A+ head dog, she would be buried in your kidneys, or wearing your stomach like a hat, shaking the bejesus out of you. Any dog that could not keep Bandana out had to be picked up immediately.

Jack

Thank you for the detailed history on those dogs. I always liked Mr. Serious, and looking at the photos of his littermates as pups, the whole litter looks excellent.

Are there any living offspring left off of Ch Mr. Serious? I know JBoogy had a few but I've not seen him post in a long time and I am not on Peds any more.

evolutionkennels
10-22-2012, 06:17 PM
You ain't lying. Drove an hour to the USDA and they claimed I used the wrong form, so had to drive back to my vet, get another form filled, and an hour back to the USDA again. So "pain in the ass" is an understatement :angry:

Jack

PS: Exceptional gameness has been a hallmark of these dogs ... do you remember which one you saw that day? Was it owned by Eloheem?

It wasn't him. It may have been bred down from stuff you sold him.

Ez Country
10-23-2012, 06:16 AM
It could have been bred down from something Ez Sold him also. I guess it is also possible that the dog you saw could of actually came right from Ez.

I have a whole yard full of dogs down from Chase and Chita. They are still producing good dogs.

Ez Country
10-26-2012, 03:18 PM
dearly missed

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_profile.php?dog_id=11030