((( MY THOUGHTS ON FEEDING RAW )))

Here are video clips comprising my complete DVD tutorial on the subject:


Feeding Raw (3 hrs)

• Introduction to Feeding Raw
• Busting the Myths
• Correct Feeding Principles
• The Best You Can Do
• Premium Alternatives (2)
• Economical Raw Diet
• Other Raw Alternatives
• Associated Benefits of Raw
• Conclusion
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The complete series will be updated to conclusion as time permits ... as it takes me about 3-4 hours to upload each clip from my remote "deep in the woods" location.

All opinions, comments, challenges welcome ...

Jack

@Jack, I've heard varying views on exactly when to feed, ie: morning, afternoon, evening. My question is when is the best time to feed and why, if there is a reason for such a practice. Thanks!!

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@Jack, I've heard varying views on exactly when to feed, ie: morning, afternoon, evening. My question is when is the best time to feed and why, if there is a reason for such a practice. Thanks!!

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im not jack but my view is you feed late afternoon still in the day time. Because dogs are (Diurnal) meaning they are primarily active during the day. Some people say feed at night helps keep them warm. But with all the proper dog house and beeding you shouldn't hafe to worry if you're hounds are warm you should know! That's just my thoughts please someone correct me if im wrong.

Thanks for sharing the videos Jack. After feeding my dog kibble for his first nine months of life and switching to RAW, I'm a beleiver. Yup, his crap is smaller and firm. Doesn't stink up my yard and it's easy to clean up. We can now open our windows around the house without having to smell dog shit.

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@Jack, I've heard varying views on exactly when to feed, ie: morning, afternoon, evening. My question is when is the best time to feed and why, if there is a reason for such a practice. Thanks!!

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im not jack but my view is you feed late afternoon still in the day time. Because dogs are (Diurnal) meaning they are primarily active during the day. Some people say feed at night helps keep them warm. But with all the proper dog house and beeding you shouldn't hafe to worry if you're hounds are warm you should know! That's just my thoughts please someone correct me if im wrong.

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I agree with Scary that dogs are diurnal and active during the day, but rather than late afternoon, I personally feed in the morning.

Jack

(PS: Interestingly, it is a medical fact that dogs are also supposed to receive any corticosteroid therapy via morning doses too.)

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This is what I do guys, I feed up just before dark.. My reason is I believe that when their full they tend to relax & sleep . So their not bark'n all night ! Now unless I'm work'n a dog for a show, I feed him 1 hr. After were done work'n & he gets his rub down .. The reason for this is when ur work'n a dog his body is extremely stressed his muscles are tight ,he's hot, so I rub him down give him time to cool down, then he's more relaxed ! U don't wanta feed a dog when his body is stressed! Just the way I do things !

FOURTH WARD KENNELS
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didnt watch the videos nor read anything yet, sure will. but i don't need to be convinced. feeding raw is the sh*t
been feeding every dog raw since they were 7 weeks old and they been doing great, plus nice hard stool all the time

@ fourth ward, im doing the same thing, i feed at 9 AM so they will have something on their stumic during the day and again round 8 PM, no problems what so ever, they'll be sleeping before 9 pm and dont make a sound.

I myself have fed kibble and raw. I have used some good kibbles and seen them live and perform fine on it. Still, when I found a deal on raw I notice the difference in my pups and older male who was starting to get gimpy is noticeably more energetic and hasn't been stiff lately. Family come over that had noticed his age catching him months back and are like man what did you do. He looks 2 again like his old self. I honestly use oils, coral calcium, parsley twice a week, and a boil egg. My raw has organs in it and I am very happy. I feed every 12 hrs. Right now I'm feeding chicken backs. I have also used beef tripe, chicken leg quarters, ground chicken and beef. Every once in awhile I get a cow head. I also buy beef leg meat bones. My pups mom looked great on kibble but my pups genetics show just as much at 7mths. Carbs are in brains, spleen, and other parts so adding then is no necessary. Here are a few pics. No work

This is there mom grown on kibble no work and looking good
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/47802012.jpg

These are her pups at 7mths. I have walked them maybe twice cause of strays and city life and they are hot pups. I set in the yard with them and bring them in the house at night for play and QT is all. I am a believer in raw now and see the difference. If you are worried bout cost get on google and search. Here Walmart sells 10lbs bags of quarters for $6.48. That's $26 for 40lbs. It's bout the same most pay for kibbles and better. You can find 40 to 50lbs for under $20 if you look though.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/7f32c94d.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/ac597410.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/e61cde84.jpg

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I myself have fed kibble and raw. I have used some good kibbles and seen them live and perform fine on it. Still, when I found a deal on raw I notice the difference in my pups and older male who was starting to get gimpy is noticeably more energetic and hasn't been stiff lately. Family come over that had noticed his age catching him months back and are like man what did you do. He looks 2 again like his old self. I honestly use oils, coral calcium, parsley twice a week, and a boil egg. My raw has organs in it and I am very happy. I feed every 12 hrs. Right now I'm feeding chicken backs. I have also used beef tripe, chicken leg quarters, ground chicken and beef. Every once in awhile I get a cow head. I also buy beef leg meat bones. My pups mom looked great on kibble but my pups genetics show just as much at 7mths. Carbs are in brains, spleen, and other parts so adding then is no necessary. Here are a few pics. No work

This is there mom grown on kibble no work and looking good
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/47802012.jpg

These are her pups at 7mths. I have walked them maybe twice cause of strays and city life and they are hot pups. I set in the yard with them and bring them in the house at night for play and QT is all. I am a believer in raw now and see the difference. If you are worried bout cost get on google and search.

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Here Walmart sells 10lbs bags of quarters for $6.48.

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That's $26 for 40lbs. It's bout the same most pay for kibbles and better. You can find 40 to 50lbs for under $20 if you look though.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/7f32c94d.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/ac597410.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/e61cde84.jpg

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If you go to Wal-Mart towards the end of the month, those same $6.48 leg quarters are marn]ked down to $4.50!!!

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I myself have fed kibble and raw. I have used some good kibbles and seen them live and perform fine on it. Still, when I found a deal on raw I notice the difference in my pups and older male who was starting to get gimpy is noticeably more energetic and hasn't been stiff lately. Family come over that had noticed his age catching him months back and are like man what did you do. He looks 2 again like his old self. I honestly use oils, coral calcium, parsley twice a week, and a boil egg. My raw has organs in it and I am very happy. I feed every 12 hrs. Right now I'm feeding chicken backs. I have also used beef tripe, chicken leg quarters, ground chicken and beef. Every once in awhile I get a cow head. I also buy beef leg meat bones. My pups mom looked great on kibble but my pups genetics show just as much at 7mths. Carbs are in brains, spleen, and other parts so adding then is no necessary. Here are a few pics. No work

This is there mom grown on kibble no work and looking good
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/47802012.jpg

These are her pups at 7mths. I have walked them maybe twice cause of strays and city life and they are hot pups. I set in the yard with them and bring them in the house at night for play and QT is all. I am a believer in raw now and see the difference. If you are worried bout cost get on google and search.

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Here Walmart sells 10lbs bags of quarters for $6.48.

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That's $26 for 40lbs. It's bout the same most pay for kibbles and better. You can find 40 to 50lbs for under $20 if you look though.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/7f32c94d.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/ac597410.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/e61cde84.jpg

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If you go to Wal-Mart towards the end of the month, those same $6.48 leg quarters are marn]ked down to $4.50!!![/quote:137q9xv1]

Yep very true and you can price compare.

If anybody has been to Roc-City's yard you will see and A-1 class yard of raw fed dogs. He has mastered, prep work needed and is very organized....really makes feeding raw look easy! On top of that his dogs look good and glow with health!

I feed nothing but raw , and will feed nothing ells.

I have updated the opening post of this thread to be in a more chronological order, for better reference, and will be working to build upon it more next week.

Jack

New Video Added.

CA JACK So my old dog is still trying to eat like a young dog and he sometimes has issues with his chicken quarters. Should I break the quarters up using a knife or should I switch him over to boneless meats?

Try to cut the chicken quarters in smaller pieces, the bones contains essential nutrients dogs need.

What kind of issues worknapbt ?

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CA JACK So my old dog is still trying to eat like a young dog and he sometimes has issues with his chicken quarters. Should I break the quarters up using a knife or should I switch him over to boneless meats?

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I would use a meat cleaver, if you're worried, not a knife.

What issues is he having, just chewing, or digestion also?

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I would use a meat cleaver, if you're worried, not a knife.

What issues is he having, just chewing, or digestion also?

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He is a greedy ass and trys to still swallow the ting with just a few bites. So I will go get a cleaver now and chop up his meat from now on.

Yeah, that is what I do with pups also.

Jack

Reason i asked is my old dog has the same problem i gues. He spits out the first half of the quarter and gets it down and keeps it there the second time around. I let him, but its a messy site.

I have read that that is actually part of the digestion process of large raw chunks ... the constant chewing/regurge process ... until they keep it down.

Jack

so heres something i was thinkin about that im surprised i didnt earlier....................................samonel la??............whats the deal with that stuff and why dont the dogs get it from the chicken and eggs?

kibble companies have recalls because dogs die from salmonella,...so i know dogs can get it..................so why dont they????

i dont believe dogs get sick of salmonella
howmany sick dogs we must have had.

salmonella has killed dogs in the diamond recalls back east...if dogs can get it from kibble, how can they not get it from raw chicken??

most of those recalls of were of human beings contracting salmonella from touching the dog food, not from the animals getting it. their digestive tract is shorter than ours. bacteria will mess us up a lot easier than a dog.

I have always wondered about this as well. We have a friend whose dog was diagnosed with salmoanella poisoning from some sort of jerky treat. they were over one night and i had pups in the back yard. I was tossing out chicken backs and they freaked. I mean I was right up there with Bundy and Manson. I mean a true serial killer of dogs. I had never heard of a dog having salmonella. If that one dog had it from a treat there is no way my dogs should be free of it considering the years and years of raw feeding. Just odd. EWO

no....dogs have died black, ...mind you it was a handfull of dogs vs the multi THOUSANDS of folks feeding it....but the fact is A DOG CONTRACTED SALMONELLA.....

my question is if a dog CAN get salmonella from something such as kibble (or whatever the source)....how are raw fed animals not affected?.....those stagnent ponds you see in the south...FULL of snapping turtles....yet i see people letting theyre dogs swim in those if they arent swimming themselves.....yet no reported related incidents??

Ya know ....that's a good question. Food for thought. I gotta Google that now. Jack may know the answer. I wash my raw meet....and I get it straight from the butcher but it still could be affected. But then that goes back to wolves or wild dogs...they are exposed to that and much more and survive so I dunno.

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I myself have fed kibble and raw. I have used some good kibbles and seen them live and perform fine on it. Still, when I found a deal on raw I notice the difference in my pups and older male who was starting to get gimpy is noticeably more energetic and hasn't been stiff lately. Family come over that had noticed his age catching him months back and are like man what did you do. He looks 2 again like his old self. I honestly use oils, coral calcium, parsley twice a week, and a boil egg. My raw has organs in it and I am very happy. I feed every 12 hrs. Right now I'm feeding chicken backs. I have also used beef tripe, chicken leg quarters, ground chicken and beef. Every once in awhile I get a cow head. I also buy beef leg meat bones. My pups mom looked great on kibble but my pups genetics show just as much at 7mths. Carbs are in brains, spleen, and other parts so adding then is no necessary. Here are a few pics. No work

This is there mom grown on kibble no work and looking good
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/47802012.jpg

These are her pups at 7mths. I have walked them maybe twice cause of strays and city life and they are hot pups. I set in the yard with them and bring them in the house at night for play and QT is all. I am a believer in raw now and see the difference. If you are worried bout cost get on google and search. Here Walmart sells 10lbs bags of quarters for $6.48. That's $26 for 40lbs. It's bout the same most pay for kibbles and better. You can find 40 to 50lbs for under $20 if you look though.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/7f32c94d.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/ac597410.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...8/e61cde84.jpg

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We hear about the benefits of feeding raw all the time. until I witnessed it for myself (WOW) I could never feed kibble again. I'm currently exploring all avenues and reading much as I can on the subject. Along with CJ material I also found these book's. Work wonders :Raw Meaty Bones by Tom Lonsdale, and Raw Dog Food Make it easy for You and your dog by Beth MacDonald. I'm somewhat of a worry wart so I gathered info from a few sources. You are correct its like turning back the hands of time!

feeding kibbles is fucking up my dogs right now. regret i tried.

you see the pieces of skin in their coat, their coat looks rough and they are losing hair.. in the middle of the winter. allot of stool, its not compact, it stinks like hell.

they look skinnier, although they weigh more, wtf..

and that's from dog lovers gold, the one kibble that had the best review from jack

i feel like i have to recover them few months now by switching back to raw

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Ya know ....that's a good question. Food for thought. I gotta Google that now. Jack may know the answer. I wash my raw meet....and I get it straight from the butcher but it still could be affected. But then that goes back to wolves or wild dogs...they are exposed to that and much more and survive so I dunno.

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From all of the reading I have done, and from my actual experience feeding a yard of 60-85 dogs raw for 2 years (and from feeding a yard of 10-15 dogs raw for 5 years), they don't get sick from eating raw meat or bacteria. A dog's digestive acids are MUCH more powerful than a man's, and virtually no bacteria that plagues us can survive it, so a dog can happily eat what you and I would barf our guts out over. That is a FACT, so if any "one" dog gets ill from salmonella, than my guess would be that "one" dog is a defective animal (i.e., is weak or has something wrong with its digestive tract, etc.).

In fact, just to re-prove this to myself, last night I fed my only remaining dog (Amazon) chicken that had literally gone bad. It was rotten and it stank like shit. Well, she ate it, she is not sick, and she had a perfectly normal stool this morning. If I would have eaten that I would have been sick for a month.

So if your dog gets sick on raw, then there is something wrong with your dog.

Healthy dogs look the best they will ever look in their lives eating raw

And I have fed enough GD dogs, enough different ways, for enough years, for the duration of their entire lives, to say this with 100% conviction.

Jack

BTW Sam, your dogs look great :)

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no....dogs have died black, ...mind you it was a handfull of dogs vs the multi THOUSANDS of folks feeding it....but the fact is A DOG CONTRACTED SALMONELLA.....

my question is if a dog CAN get salmonella from something such as kibble (or whatever the source)....how are raw fed animals not affected?.....those stagnent ponds you see in the south...FULL of snapping turtles....yet i see people letting theyre dogs swim in those if they arent swimming themselves.....yet no reported related incidents??

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it's not likely... look up dog food recalls and salmonella you will see most of them are in regards to people actually getting sick and not the dogs. dogs can get it, but the animal probably already has something wrong with him and does not have a very strong immune system. they are built to eat raw animals. never heard of any other species making fire and thoroughly cooking their meal meal before consumption lol

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BTW Sam, your dogs look great :)

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Thanks Jack but that's not my hounds. those are Bojacc357 hounds. First chance I get ill put some up of mine!

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feeding kibbles is fucking up my dogs right now. regret i tried.

you see the pieces of skin in their coat, their coat looks rough and they are losing hair.. in the middle of the winter. allot of stool, its not compact, it stinks like hell.

they look skinnier, although they weigh more, wtf..

and that's from dog lovers gold, the one kibble that had the best review from jack

i feel like i have to recover them few months now by switching back to raw

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Yes I can feel your frustration with the Junk food diet "kibble" . Here's something else to consider. Hounds teeth or not getting clean unless we brush them ourselves on a kibble diet. in the case of feeding raw, with the right size bones our hounds teeth are assured to be cleaned. Rotten teeth and gums causes problems to the mouth. infection works on other parts of the body. At the end of the day that's money going to the vet's pockets. feeding raw has so many benefits its astounding. Propper nutrition is the building blocks for any successful Champion with longevity hounds or humans!!!


P.S. Just trying to help!

LOOKING FOR OPINIONS AND INPUT...I GOT 40LBS. OF LEG QUARTERS TO START AND I WANT TO GRIND IT IN TO 1.5 LBS. PACKS..GOING TO MIX IN SOME

TRIPE AND SOME ORGANS;HEARTS AND GIZZARDS...ADD MY SOFTBOILED EGGS AND MULTI VITAMIN AT FEED DAY...QUESTION IS...

WILL IT MATTER THAT I REFREEZE THE CHICKEN AND LAYOUT ENUF FOR 2/3 DAYS AHEAD? GUESS IT'S MY OWN EXPERIMENT....

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LOOKING FOR OPINIONS AND INPUT...I GOT 40LBS. OF LEG QUARTERS TO START AND I WANT TO GRIND IT IN TO 1.5 LBS. PACKS..GOING TO MIX IN SOME
TRIPE AND SOME ORGANS;HEARTS AND GIZZARDS...ADD MY SOFTBOILED EGGS AND MULTI VITAMIN AT FEED DAY...QUESTION IS...
WILL IT MATTER THAT I REFREEZE THE CHICKEN AND LAYOUT ENUF FOR 2/3 DAYS AHEAD? GUESS IT'S MY OWN EXPERIMENT....

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Why grind it?

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feeding kibbles is fucking up my dogs right now. regret i tried.

you see the pieces of skin in their coat, their coat looks rough and they are losing hair.. in the middle of the winter. allot of stool, its not compact, it stinks like hell.

they look skinnier, although they weigh more, wtf..

and that's from dog lovers gold, the one kibble that had the best review from jack

i feel like i have to recover them few months now by switching back to raw

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I fed Amazon kibble for a weekend and hated the way she looked (and how much water she drank) just from that :shocked: