What are you breeding/looking for?

Everyone has a preference. I think a lot has to do with where you are in dogs also. Are you in a place where you can out game the woods and live or is it thick and nasty and anything over 30 -45 you need a shovel even if you win.
Breed what can be hunted where you are. I have always hunted the southern part of the country. And everyone has fast ass killer type hounds LOTS of hard mouth Boyles dogs and Eli hound every freaking place . then them damn dog Fat Bill had let out crunching every thing down. Hell I could keep going but you understand. I breed Game Smart hard mouth dogs off my stuff now. They naturally have solid wind. But I'm at a point to where Gameness and mouth are the two most important thing I check for style can be improved with proper school. Wind will improve in my keep but Gameness is where its at and mouth gets it finished. They say you can't pass it but it seems too. Power is easy to fix you can help fast twitch mussel. So if I was starting out I would find the deepest game dogs that could bite like hell from a solid line of dogs just like that and improve it along the way.

Good advice.

EWO

Another thing is you can teach a dog to scratch. I've seen it way too many times. I can tell you of a dog man that use to have to clap his hands to get his dogs to scratch. And they would as long as they could. Every time he even waited one time to 5 to show me.

True,

Lots of people even long count their dogs while schooling to teach them tot scratch at the same time its part of game checking. Lots of dogs will scratch when they are all geeked up. Same dog may not choose to do so if he settles down some.

Scratching is the name of the game.

EWO

Yes but I'm talking about he had his dogs frickin to where they wouldn't move until he clapped his hands. Then they would go. Not a second before. And they was some hard to beat hard hitting top of the line bed dogs. He was just that good of a handler and dog man he had his charge in tune.

I'm very new to breeding but not winning. When I finally grew a little more I started breeding my own. Its an even more fun of a challenge than working. I breed rbj base dogs down from crews/burns/cottingham/lockjaw/bbc/ates/wilder/smith. Sounds like a lot when you put all of them together but its all close neat. http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...eeding_id=7529 I believe in gameness 1st but wont leave the house without either smarts or punch.

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Originally Posted by stopem

I'm very new to breeding but not winning. When I finally grew a little more I started breeding my own. Its an even more fun of a challenge than working. I breed rbj base dogs down from crews/burns/cottingham/lockjaw/bbc/ates/wilder/smith. Sounds like a lot when you put all of them together but its all close neat. http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...eeding_id=7529 I believe in gameness 1st but wont leave the house without either smarts or punch.

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I haven't seen any Ates dogs in a while. Mr. Ates kept some fine dogs. I hated to hear of his passing.

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Originally Posted by CYJ

Ditto Palooka. IMHO, If the dogs you are raising. Do not show good air first, stamina and that diesel power lugging strength. It is unlikely it will show deep gameness when caught in a tight spot. Most old timers believed a Race Horse, Game dog or Game cock could be no gamer than it's breathing ability. Next how much of it's power to execute it's dominance over it's opponent to the death if required..

The famous Green Bay Packer Coach, Vince Lombardi. Probably saying it wrong. Stated that tiredness makes Cowards out of all of us. Even Runners in a short/ long distance race, Boxers, Wrestlers, Cage Fighters. Know what the saying means, hitting the wall. After that is when the desire/gaminess kicks in to win. Cheers

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Can you pull groups of three months old pups walk them and see who has the best wind?