Jack what you think about this breeding? http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...eeding_id=7447
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Jack what you think about this breeding? http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...eeding_id=7447
Is it an actual breeding or a planned breeding?
This is a actual breeding about to take place any day now
Please understand that a breeding "about to take place" is NOT an actual breeding; it's still a theoretical breeding :exclamation:Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP
Only use the breeding database for breedings that have actually happened (meaning the stick was actually made).
Any other breeding, even the breeding you "intend to do tomorrow" belongs in the Test Breeding section, which does NOT actually store data.
We insist on exactness here, because you can always change your mind at the last minute.
Thank you,
Jack
I failed to realize this until I already made the ped and could'nt delete it. Sorry about that, I now know.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Do you have any insight on this breeding? Just would like to read your opinion
I really like King Kong's looks: took after his mama, which I think is the better dog in his pedigree (not to mention a full-brother to the Ace Head Dog PonchoBack).
I'd have to see both parents live, of course, but (not having done so) Angry Annie certainly is well-bred ... being 3/4 Ch Mr. Serious, with a nice 1/4-out. Ch Mr. Serious is not only one of the finest all-around BULLdogs "I've" ever bred ... he is one of the finest dogs that anyone on Planet Earth has ever bred ... Champion, producer of Champions and Grand Champions ... with an unblemished 22-0 production record and was only bred 5-6x before he lost his life.
So it has a chance to be a really nice breeding :)
King Kong definitely took after his mama. I was told he is a tremendous face dog that never has been put behind. He annihilates everything, pushing 4lbs made a 2xw look like shit in 20min. Had him looking for an exit. His littermate brother lost in a war in 3:45. I plan on getting a female out of this and breeding it to Ponchoback II to start my yard off.
I read your article on breeding like 5x's and paid attention to the original blend of ch hammer/hollingsworth to get smart, athletic, fast, game, head/face dogs. I figure the touch of Mr. Serious should give me some size and mouth along with the Big Boom dog(almost pure poncho x kitana breeding).
Wow, sounds fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP
What is the name of the brother, and do you (or can Kilo) get a photo of him?
He deserves to be in the database, as well as the winner.
See if you can get the photos of those dogs, and the ped of the winner, I would appreciate that.
Good to hear that you're absorbing the info ... I am one of the few breeders, if any, who has kept an unbroken string of winners/Champions dating all the way back to the first two dogs I bred ... spanning more than 20 years, and producing Champions with 6-gen of my (or mostly my) breedings.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP
I don't "think" ... I know that these principles work :idea:
If you follow the patterns, advise, and standards, you can breed your own family, successfully (which is the key!), for as long as you are alive.
A lot of people breed "pure families" that can't do anything, which is not what you want. All families will produce some bad eggs, but you have to keep exact standards in mind to make your produced dogs repeatedly and consistently stand the test of time.
That said, I never liked Big Boom. From what I understand, he was not a head dog and he didn't have any ability. He also doesn't look long-winded to me with that snub-nose.
But Big Boom does have good dogs behind him, though, so he may well produce, especially when bred to a bitch the quality and breeding of Gorilla Girl ... as King Kong and his brother apparently prove :mrgreen:
Jack
This is king kong's brother ped http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=48974 Both there pix are on the peds online pedigrees.
I also made not of that same info on big boom but i remember you saying that hero was your favorite out of the poncho x kitana breeding. Nala was a slick face dog but out of a litter of rough hard mouth dogs with no defense but she end up getting the face style of the poncho dogs. Mister was in my area and was a great dog from all accounts. I know he was a heavy mouth dog. So by breeding big boom to gorilla girl gave the silver back dogs some size and mouth making a complete dog that fit the vise grip standards in king kong. Thats why I would take a female off of this breeding to Ponchoback II or a silverback stud that fits the vise grip standard
Really? You ask me all these questions, that I take the time to answer, but when I ask "you" for a pic ... you say, "It's over there, go fetch."?Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP
I will remember that.
LMAO!!!! Im not as savvy with posting pix as you are. It was more a cry for help then "go fetch" lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
:lol:
Did Mr. Serious, Hero and Sassy have the head/face style?
Mr. Serious and Hero were body dogs, as far as I know. With devastating mouth. Some of them all-around dogs.
I liked them better with an extra helping of Poncho, because they kept the mouth but regained the head style.
Mr. Serious had an extra helping of Poncho, but he was a body dog nonetheless.
He had to be retired after #3 because he suffered a crushed muzzle in his last ... but still pulled it off and won in 1:58.
Same with Mister. Devastating, but kinda one-dimensional.
Hero was supposed to be a freak of nature, but caught babesia and was never matched.
Here are a couple older photos of Sir Kilo.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP
Thank you. Are you sure this is the same dog?Quote:
Originally Posted by SGC
Color looks similar, but the ears don't.
The labels on your thumbnails are also Mr Kilo, not Sir Kilo.
Thanks again and just checking :)
Jack
Yes, I am 99% sure it is the same dog, but I did put Mr. Kilo on the photos by mistake when I saved them.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Hard to see his ears on the black & white photos, but I remember when Sir Kilo and Maria were sent down to Zach English as pups.
I also have a photo of them all as young pups.
Okay, thanks.
I guess my dumb ass jinxed the breeding because kong didnt what to breed to her! lol
And THIS is exactly why you do *not* post theoretical breedings "about to happen" into the database ... anything can happen :idea:
What you "plan on" doing is NOT an actual breeding ... nothing is ... until such time as the male dismounts and you have a tie :idea:
You should buy an AI kit and learn how to do AI breedings ...
If you care about the breeding, and are as game as you expect your dogs to be, you can have a $15 AI kit overnighted to your home, from Revival Vet Supply, and get the breeding done tomorrow, simply by following the instructions on the video link I provided.
Jack
It's not as hard as you may think. I've done it twice, pups both time.good luck
I would but the dogs are owned by kiloQuote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
I mad a mistake and didnt fully understand the functions of the database yet and moved to fast. Once realized I couldnt delete the ped. Lesson learned lolQuote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Ahh, surprised he would let a trivial thing like that interfere with a breeding.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASAP
Is it the male's first time?
If they can get along, he should let them play.
Once they settle down and get used to each other, nature will take its course ...
He has been bred before back to his mom, but for some reason only wanted to get this bitch! lol He ended up breeding Annie back to her son off of Big BoomQuote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack