Are they still around? I remember back in 05' I purchased a son of uey to ms. bobbi. At the time icon and Brickhouse were the flagship animals for vise grip because of their performance. How did they produce? I heard about a littermate brother to thin names toro in my area he was also said to be an amazing animal that didn't get his chance to show the world his talent due to loss of hardware. If anybody has stuff down from these dogs, how is working? Do they have the same traits & style that made icon & Brickhouse so amazing?