I currently walk my dog for 6 miles, the next day I give him sprint work with a flirt pole, next day I run with him for 15 minutes and the next day sprints again with the flirt pole. It's getting cold and is raining a lot, I'm getting a Carpetmill (not a hard pulling one but smooth turning one, I will be using this mill for his sprinting sessions. Now I'm not sure if to getting an E-mill or Slatmill for when I can't take him on his walks or running session. Which one would ya recomend for this?
If you're just using it for walks, get the e-mill. That way you can control the pace of his walks.
I don't understand why you would need an E-mill or slat for walking a dog when you're gonna get a carpet mill? A carpet mill is used to build strength like walking a dog. A slat mill is used to put wind in your dog.
A carpet mill can build strength as well as wind. It depends on how it is used. What it can also build is muscular endurance. A critical part of being stronger for longer. The issue with carpet mills from the past is that they were basically a piece of carpet draped over two pieces of pipe. It took an incredible amount of work for the dog to make it move. Couple this with someone who did not know what they were doing and they ended up with a muscled up freak. It takes more oxygen-more blood for bigger muscles so the dog could not 'breathe'. So the carpet mill was dubbed for strength only. Fast forward in time. The carpet mills get end rollers vs. stationary pipe. The sliding surface is some sort of plastic/polymer vs. sanded plywood. The carpet is a lighter yet stronger blend vs. the 1970's shag carpet with jute backing. If I had to choose between the three mills mentioned I would choose the carpet mill every time. EWO
Originally Posted by OGDOGG
I will still be taking my dig out fir walks, runs and sprint work, I will be using the mills mainly for when I can't take them out because of the weather. I will use the carpetmill for his sprinting sessions, I will use the other mill (e-mill or slatmill) for his walks but also for his running sessions and thats why I dont know which one to get for this. I have read that a carpetmill should not be used for long periods of time, this is why I will use it for his sprinting. And as you said a slatmill is for developing wind which from what I see and read is the one thats good for long running sessions, yet as you also said the e-mill is good for controling the dog's pace. So this is why im undecided on whether a e-mill or a slatmill for his running session.
Jon
With an emill you could walk your dog on it for long periods of time at a control pace. Or you could turn down the speed and have him simulate weight pulling. If you could do this with an emill, you don't need a carpet mill or go out and walk your dog( it'll save a lot of time and money), and easier on the dog's pads.
I wouldn't use the emill to put wind into my dogs though. Instead I'll use a slat mill. When a dog is trotting or running on an emill, all he is doing is trying to keep up with the turning belt, working mostly his arms and legs. When he's on the slat, he has to pull forward thus working his whole body.
With the working schedule you posted on top, I personally wouldn't plan it like that. The dog needs to be work into the keep..slowly at first and peaking at the end. That way he won't get hurt, and be strong at the end of his keep.
Yeah I progressed him to this point, I started with just the walks and running sessions, latter I added a sprinting session and a bit latter I added another sprinting session and now I'm at this point. I just need the mills because we are starting to get.bad weather. I prefer to work my dog with outside walks, runs and flirt pole work because that way he get out, I try to wprk him at different places and also I can get a better connection with my dog.
The notion that you can't use a carpetmill for a long period of time is pure silliness. Disregard anything you've ever heard in regards to that subject. I've seen dogs work a carpetmill for over an hour at a time, and the dogs never suffered any injuries due to the activity.
Where this mills hard pulling or smooth turning? I've seen some carpetmills that are smooth turning not as free spining as a slatmill but smooth enough that they are not at an angle, they are completely flat just like a slatmill. This is the type of carpetmill im getting.
The thing with a carpetmill is that it be smooth spinning (as much as a carpetmill can be smooth spinning), or it can be hard turning. If I spray down the polymer board the carpet flows over, then it will run a lot smoother as opposed to me not spraying it. If I don't spray it, it is hard turning mill. Either way, it doesn't matter. I've done both ways for over an hour with separate dogs without any issues.
Always remember that so much of what you hear is being uttered by people that have never put forth the effort to try and disprove things that have always been passed down as gospel. That's one of the things I like about dogs and conditioning devices. I have the ability, as do we all, to disprove things.
Bert Sorrells keep revolved around using a carpetmill. He didn't use a slat or a jenny. He used a carpetmill, and this was back in the 70s and 80s. The same could be said for Mad & Skip, who were proteges of Bert.
Is this the type of carpetmill your taking about, this one looks like it's a smooth turning one.
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