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    When u buy a dog who dog it really is

    Why do we have breeder out there sell a dog in after they sold the dog still think in act like they own the dog

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    1. Generally, if a breeder is a good one, he cares about the fate of his dogs.

    2. If he is a good breeder, then he generally knows more about dogs than the average dogman, who can't seem to put his own two dogs together well enough to create his own winners.

    3. In knowing more about dogs than the average dogman, the good breeder tries to give good advice to the people who buy his dogs.

    4. Unfortunately, most of the people who buy dogs (because they're not at the same level) ignore the good advice given and try to do things "their own way" ... usually recklessly ... and usually with the miserable results the breeder could see were going to happen.

    5. As a result of this, the good breeder will become extremely angry a) that his good advice was ignored and b) because his good dog is now fucked up ... while the substandard dogman, who didn't listen to the good advice and who fucked up, will then have to decide if a) he wants to admit his mistake, learn from it, and never do it again or b) he wants to defend his stupidity, fail to learn and grow, and continue to be a bottom-dweller in the sport.

    That has been my continual observations after breeding winners all over the world, for over 23 years, and watching the difference in results between good customers and shitty ones.

    Thanks for the question,

    Jack

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    The good breeder should keep his dog in weight pull his self with them .if he feel like that about his dog.i don't sell many pup but when I do I tell the new Onwer this your dog now I keptl 4 for my self so i can do what in when i want not worru about the 1 i sold so u do what u want u pay your money.

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    R2L
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    From the moment you will let one or more go, especially if you're selling to anyone who can bring the money, you know you're going to facepalm yourself one day. 3 options, don't sell, don't care or only let go to selected people.

    I'm not to breed happy, but when i do i will always go for option 1.

    PS: this is not direct to evo or anybody in particular.

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    It's not as simple as that Unknown. I've sold maybe 10 dogs in my life. I don't even know how many I've given away. As the breeder of those dogs, I always wanted the dog to succeed. If the dog didn't make the cut, then I wanted it to be the dog's fault, not the owners. As the breeder, I stayed in touch with the owner of said dogs just to keep up to date with the progress and offer any advice that I thought would benefit the owner and the dog. Since I'd bred those dogs, some for a few generations, and I knew the lineage personally for 4-6 generations on some dogs, I have insight that would do nothing but HELP. That is where the frustration and anger sets in. I am telling the owner what to look for, what not to do at certain times because I KNOW those dogs. When an owner will go ahead and do something that is outright detrimental to the dog's development even AFTER being told it's detrimental, then the owner is just a complete fucktard.

    The breeder of the dog is simply looking out for the dog's best interest and trying to help the owner. The owner doesn't give a shit about what the breeder says, nor does he care about the dog. All he cares about is trying to match dogs, but what his dumbass doesn't realize that putting your dog behind the 8 ball from the onset simply does nothing but put you in a hole, and that's a hole you won't come out of if your dog is opposed by a quality opponent.

    That is why I don't sell dogs to the GP, and I only give dogs to people I know and trust. The GP of dogdom are just some fuckin idiots, whether they're from the city, the country, have law degrees, or work in a convenience store. 98% of them are dumber than a box of hammers, and simply don't deserve to own any dog that I, or anyone else, has ever bred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrostyPaws View Post
    It's not as simple as that Unknown. I've sold maybe 10 dogs in my life. I don't even know how many I've given away. As the breeder of those dogs, I always wanted the dog to succeed. If the dog didn't make the cut, then I wanted it to be the dog's fault, not the owners. As the breeder, I stayed in touch with the owner of said dogs just to keep up to date with the progress and offer any advice that I thought would benefit the owner and the dog. Since I'd bred those dogs, some for a few generations, and I knew the lineage personally for 4-6 generations on some dogs, I have insight that would do nothing but HELP. That is where the frustration and anger sets in. I am telling the owner what to look for, what not to do at certain times because I KNOW those dogs. When an owner will go ahead and do something that is outright detrimental to the dog's development even AFTER being told it's detrimental, then the owner is just a complete fucktard.

    The breeder of the dog is simply looking out for the dog's best interest and trying to help the owner. The owner doesn't give a shit about what the breeder says, nor does he care about the dog. All he cares about is trying to match dogs, but what his dumbass doesn't realize that putting your dog behind the 8 ball from the onset simply does nothing but put you in a hole, and that's a hole you won't come out of if your dog is opposed by a quality opponent.

    That is why I don't sell dogs to the GP, and I only give dogs to people I know and trust. The GP of dogdom are just
    some fuckin idiots, whether they're from the city, the country, have law degrees, or work in a convenience store. 98% of them are dumber than a box of hammers, and simply don't deserve to own any dog that I, or anyone else, has ever bred.
    It's good to know that a breeder out there is putting his dogs in good hands and caring what happens to them later on but if your selling your stock and offering info that's not being took to heart maybe you you select better buyers to sale to or don't sale pups only sale dogs that are of age and ready that way you have already done what your suggesting to the buyer to do? Going by what your saying if you own a car/truck then I'm sure you follow the owners manual to the tee right? Since they are the ones that built the car and should know everything to do with it after you own it. Such as use premium gas and 5-20 w oil or do you use what you think is best since your the one with it everyday and know that one on a personal level

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    R2L
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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
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    I may ask for info from my breeder bc he does know the dogs back ground better then myself but I see my dogs as my dogs. I have no problem letting people know I'm not the breeder and giving someone credit on a job well done when it comes to the breeding but that's it. Far as winning unless the breeder puts in time and or money I don't see why he/she should have any claim to any wins. At most the only credit they should get is being able to put two dogs together that produced a winner. I think breeders forget that old saying about it taking more then just a good dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by widerange View Post
    I may ask for info from my breeder bc he does know the dogs back ground better then myself but I see my dogs as my dogs. I have no problem letting people know I'm not the breeder and giving someone credit on a job well done when it comes to the breeding but that's it. Far as winning unless the breeder puts in time and or money I don't see why he/she should have any claim to any wins. At most the only credit they should get is being able to put two dogs together that produced a winner. I think breeders forget that old saying about it taking more then just a good dog
    Mmmmm, that's not giving enough credit to the breeder. That's like saying the race car driver is more important than being in a truly world class race car. The best driver is worth nothing without a good car to sit in. Thus THE AUTO MAKER is the most important, then the driver.

    Sure, a lousy driver can crash a great car, but even a ho-hum driver can still compete and "go fast" if he's sitting in a truly-fast car to begin with ... while even the best driver in the world can't do shit sitting inside a Toyota Corolla

    THE most important part of any race is a truly world class car ... from there, what matters are the drivers, but ALL OF THEM (win or lose) need a world class car FIRST in order to be in the running to compete. Because, in a good car, even so-so divers are still going awful damn fast

    Back to this, any retard with a great dog can still crash and burn with his stupidity at the helm of greatness, but plenty of novices with great dogs (who have them in halfway decent shape) have beaten great dogmen with just "pretty good" dogs ...

    Jack

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