Was wondering if anyone has noticed a correlation between how a puppy acts in the litter compared to how it acts when it's an adult. For example, the most aggressive puppy being the most aggressive out of the litter when its fully mature and vice versa. Another example: The most lazy puppy growing up to be the most drivey one out of the litter. Your guys' inputs would be greatly appreciated.
Me my self I love raisin pups,that is truly the way to go.I believe it's all in how you raise them.if you keep them away from people and crated up then 9 time out of 10 you will raise shy dog.If you ride them and walk 2 maybe 3 times a week with a little flirt poling then he should grow to be a very active bulldog.I've had no problems when I do it this way.
I totally agree that how you raise them is important, but I disagree that it's "all" in how you raise them.
Their genetics are the biggest determining factor, that is why breeding is so important. For an extreme example, all the sled-pulling in the world isn't going to make my dog into a Husky... and all the early-rolling in the world isn't going to make a Husky into a bulldog
That said, you *can* mold dogs in either a positive, or a negative, direction through upbringing ... within whatever genetic limitations they have.
Jack
I agree the blood has to be there as well.Originally Posted by CA Jack
I totally agree that how you raise them is important, but I disagree that it's "all" in how you raise them.
Their genetics are the biggest determining factor, that is why breeding is so important. For an extreme example, all the sled-pulling in the world isn't going to make my dog into a Husky
That said, you *can* mold dogs in either a positive, or a negative, direction through upbringing ... within whatever genetic limitations they have.
Jack
Thanks for contributing to the thread guys but youre not really answering the question.
another example: when watching puppies play together in there pen at a young age, did you notice the ones who would hit certain areas would have similar styles to how they played when they were young compared to when they matured?
Short answer, it can be but no.
In the working dog world there are tests that are pretty accurate in determining which puppies have what it takes to enter the working dog world. Bulldogs can be tested just the same for some of those same characteristics. Just one example is that with the entire litter of puppies is in a room and not paying attention to you, just being puppies, throw a set of keys on the floor amongst them. The positive sign is for the pup to notice the keys and then go to investigate. The negative would be to cower down and run away from the noise. This same test would be used to identify the outgoing confident pup vs. the shy one.
For me, it has two kickers. Kicker one is that their raising and their enviroment can trump either puppy test conclusion just the same with the working dog. The next kicker is 'game' can come from any dog with any characteristic. The shy dog can avoid people but get it done in the box. And the opposite is true as well, the aggressive puppy may find out this is not the life he thought it would be. And every combination in between is possible.
My best example would be in the show world. Puppies can be deemed show quality vs. pet quality at 8 -10 weeks old. A smaller percentage of pet quality dog will mature into show quality dogs, but odds are they are neutered for their pre-determination as a puppy, so improving upon this dog is an imposibillity. A larger percentage of the dogs deemed show quality fall apart as yearlings and someone has spent $$$$ for a non show animal.
But yes, traits/characteristics as an eight week old puppy can be used as a direct link to what you will have as an 2 or three year old, both good and bad. The truest test is time. So these puppy characteristics/traits are not the end all/be all of choosing puppies. After that babbling, there is a correlation between puppy hood and adulthood, it is not an absolute, and once the correlation is established, the game factor can be like the trump card either way. EWO
I keep my dogs away from damn near everyone except for me and about 4 people, and I don't have any shy dogs. What I do have are dogs that don't like strangers, and I'm ok with that piece of their genetic code flourishing. Over the years of raising the dogs I've raised, I've noticed some correlation between pups and adulthood with some of them, but certainly not all of them.
I am in the same boat as well. My son and I are the only ones that ever come into contact with my dogs. Mostly it is me, but he does rake and feed when I need him to do so. I have had only a couple of shy dogs over the years and I did not raise either of them. One was a female that had produced multiple winners and when her owner got out I ended up with her. I went to pick her up and we had to pull her out of the box. If this bitch did not have the production track record I would have walked away. She might lay in the sun when no one was out there but other than that she was in the barrel. Like "Chosen Solitary Confinement". Of the dogs I kept off her I never had a shy one. What caused her to be this way I never knew. EWO
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