if you had the honor and Opprotunity to own one of these dogs who would you own and why?
if you had the honor and Opprotunity to own one of these dogs who would you own and why?
Buck was a, great dog, in many ways.
The only thing I never really liked was his breeding.
What I mean with this is, what was his "true" breeding.
You need to know that for a little while I had buck (B4 J. of STP fame took him)
Alan W. had him before that, to make a, long story short.
When the dog was being campaigned, P.P. (Breeder) was told about certain events and his reply
was basically always the same Great breeding will produce you dogs like him. Well that went on, after the
second event, same thing same replies, but just before STP got him (which he saw him that night in fact) and I wasn't keeping him anymore, that event was again told to P.P. and he told ME "great breeding...sire, etc.." as this was now a respectable event that you were able to say it bordered on Championship quality announcements. Then all of a sudden
things changed, lol great breeding blah blah blah but the sire was really XYZ instead of ABC.
This still took nothing away from the dog's greatness, in fact STP actually went ahead and said I will only talk about what I saw him do, which in reality he was over his Official W count.
If you were someone dead set on papers and breeding he was not the dog for you but he sure was a dog to build a yard with.
I Prefer to know that
You can breed my dog to a telephone pole and you'll get game splinters... But some folks want to know from which forest the tree came from that brought us that pole.
Common sense isn't so common these days.
Totally get it. I don't like it when they hang papers on a dog. Never really understood it. Competitive edge, I guess, but...if I'm really confident as a breeder I don't worry so much about what other people might do with "my" recipe. Let's face it, most people don't know what they're doing anyway lol; Vince Lombardi once said I'll give you my playbook, tell you what I'm going to run, & you still won't be able to beat me. Because he believed in his method & knew what he was doing.Originally Posted by SGC
You had hands on the great Buck?! That's fantastic.
Lol, isn't it always the way? Salesmen, right? My understanding is the guy that bought him was looking for a "Maloney dog," so Pat obliged him by "providing one." A classic case of why you should never tell a breeder beforehand you want "this" type of dog. If that historical information is incorrect please feel free to correct it!
That's completely honorable by STP, I never heard that. More than 7 wins?! Incredible.
Couldn't agree more.
I tend to be more of a "good dogs are where you find em" type, but if you're a breeder I completely understand about wanting to know the true lineage of a dog, because you can't reasonably expect to obtain good, long-term results from your breeding program otherwise (vs. being basically a "one-hit wonder" where the pairing just nicked without much forethought by you & you are incapable of breeding "more dogs like that"). Inbreeding/linebreeding rests on knowing just who the dog's parents are...can't do it any other way! So both sides have a point, I think it just falls more to where you are on the scale: breeder or competitor.
GREAT post by you, thanks so much for sharing. Stuff like that makes being aboard here worthwhile.
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