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    man eaters

    I know this has been discussed a million times but what are your guys thoughts on this issue? obviously a nut case is going to pop up from time to time, but I'm of the opinion that 99 percent of the time this can be prevented by simply taking the dog off the chain once or twice a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine View Post
    I know this has been discussed a million times but what are your guys thoughts on this issue? obviously a nut case is going to pop up from time to time, but I'm of the opinion that 99 percent of the time this can be prevented by simply taking the dog off the chain once or twice a week.
    I think the term "maneater" needs to be put under the microscope and analyzed in order to answer the question.

    If a dog is always aggressive (as in seriously intent to do harm), and even prone to biting its own owner, then I would probably just shoot the dog.

    If the dog is on-off aggressive, even to its owner, then I would likewise just shoot the dog.

    However, if a dog is just GEEKED-UP (meaning excited to work but not truly aggressive), then I agree that time off the chain (and hell, plain socialization) will take the edge off.

    If a dog always loves me, but hates everyone else, then I personally have no problem with that. That is how guard dogs function.

    Jack

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    Thumbs Up

    I don't mind if a hound tends to dislike everyone else but me, hell I would prefer that in all my dogs... That tends to keep the thieves away...

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    that's pretty much the way I see it. I don't really consider the dog a maneater unless it goes after the hand that feeds it. for no other reason than to hurt somebody. I've had quite a few dogs off of and down from gr ch virgil, burns hot dawg, and dlc gr ch bo. Who were all known to have at least one of the degrees of human aggression you mentioned above. and haven't had one yet.
    always makes me think when I hear those old stories about bully son, zebo, and the other famous man eaters. were they really or was it just the fact that they were hi Drive working dogs on huge yards that never got off the chain from 3 months to 2 years old? granted most dogs would never display this behavior, but these were fuckin killers, that were raised in solitary confinement. I wouldn't expect anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine View Post
    that's pretty much the way I see it. I don't really consider the dog a maneater unless it goes after the hand that feeds it. for no other reason than to hurt somebody. I've had quite a few dogs off of and down from gr ch virgil, burns hot dawg, and dlc gr ch bo. Who were all known to have at least one of the degrees of human aggression you mentioned above. and haven't had one yet.
    always makes me think when I hear those old stories about bully son, zebo, and the other famous man eaters. were they really or was it just the fact that they were hi Drive working dogs on huge yards that never got off the chain from 3 months to 2 years old? granted most dogs would never display this behavior, but these were fuckin killers, that were raised in solitary confinement. I wouldn't expect anything else.
    LMFAO

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    Ditto.

    I had one off Ch. Jethro back to a Mayday/Tant's Bruiser female who was turning out to be a really nice dog. He started showing signs early, and around 12 months he started showing aggressive signs he wanted to bite me. I put a lot of time into him, did quite a bit of socialization and his propensity to bite me continually increased. With all the time and work I think I may have delayed the end result but I think the end result was inevitable. Around 21-22 months he laid his cards on the table and pretty much said, 'all-in'.

    As the signs increased it came to a head when I walked out of his spot and he bit me in the back of the leg, luckily on the boot, and he meant harm. He was turning out to be a good dog in sport so I gave him more chances than he needed, basically hoping against hope. The next day he met me at the end of the chain, let me know it was a no-entry area and entering his area would have a painful outcome for me. At that point I gave him a vitamin and he never showed another sign of 'biting the hand that feeds'.

    It happens. I think it is better to figure out the WHY?, instead of just lumping every situation into 'maneater'. EWO






    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    I think the term "maneater" needs to be put under the microscope and analyzed in order to answer the question.

    If a dog is always aggressive (as in seriously intent to do harm), and even prone to biting its own owner, then I would probably just shoot the dog.

    If the dog is on-off aggressive, even to its owner, then I would likewise just shoot the dog.

    However, if a dog is just GEEKED-UP (meaning excited to work but not truly aggressive), then I agree that time off the chain (and hell, plain socialization) will take the edge off.

    If a dog always loves me, but hates everyone else, then I personally have no problem with that. That is how guard dogs function.

    Jack

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    Neither Bullyson or Zebo were in solitary confinement even after Zebo bit Adams son when Mr Johnson got him, he had a lot of free roam. Lonzo never said Zebo was a biter, it was Mtn Man but his wife said she never had an issue with Zebo.

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    what did lonzo and Jerry have to say about how those two were raised? I've never heard that part of the story. both of them were passed around quite a bit. where they not aggressive towards the people that raised them from pups?

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    Bullyson couldn't have been a true maneater. He' s sitting on that house with Carver ... and then there was that photo of him in a room, by a coffee table, with several men in the room.

    My guess he was aggressive to strangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    Bullyson couldn't have been a true maneater. He' s sitting on that house with Carver ... and then there was that photo of him in a room, by a coffee table, with several men in the room.

    My guess he was aggressive to strangers.
    I believe they were very weary of strangers, Zebo also road in cars free of confienment. I would suggest that maybe they were aggressive or just high prey driven animals. Now if a man is what they concentrated on as prey, they would be dangerous, but true maneater I dont know if that is what they were. Not if there were running free at houses and inside cars with more than 1 person in the vehicle.

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