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    Raw Feeders

    I have a question, it's not a concern right now but it's something I'm noticing. I have this one pup, he is about 16 weeks now or in a few days will be. He came from the south when it was 80 degrees but up north it was closer to 30 so he was kept inside.

    He's on a raw feed, no kibble at all no rice or noodles neither, straight raw. He started off with Thighs & Drumsticks at 6 weeks but has been on Quarters last 6-7 weeks with gizzards, livers, eggs and greens. He won't drink water, not bottled water not boiled water not faucet water. I do realize with the raw, thirst goes down bc of the water in the meat but all the others still drink water. I've ran him and played with the hide with him even had him chase the kids but this pup will not hit the water bowl.. I noticed it and started to add chicken broth to his feed at night and either broth or pedialyte in the morning but I don't get it. He still playful as ever, jumps and runs everywhere is nonstop energy but i cannot get him to drink water. I have an appointment lined up for him but when a buddy seen him (he's a vet) to give him shots he said the pup was healthy and possibly just didn't need the water bc of the raw and because he eats some meat 2x a day it might have enough liquids for him. He also said the climate hasn't dried out and he's not outside running as much as the others on the chain so his need of water might not be as much since he’s in a cooler environment during the hotter parts of the day with my brother stealing him and having him inside.. He said not to add broth to see if he will drink some water but i didn't want to do that.

    Now since the pup has been up here, he only hits the puppy pen in the afternoon around 4, but typically by 12am, he's stolen from the pen and hidden inside.. I feed all my pups with a little hit of gizzards, livers in the morning before giving them their main course at night.. Anybody who feeds raw experience this with pups??

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    Don't sweat over it. If the pup doesn't want to drink then he probably doesn't need it. Some will drink more than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pit Bull Committed View Post
    Don't sweat over it. If the pup doesn't want to drink then he probably doesn't need it. Some will drink more than others.
    That's my assumption as well, i'm not worried bc he doesn't act any different then he has.. Still very high energy I was just wondering for others who feed raw if they experienced this. I've been feeding raw for some years now but this is 1st time I had pup who won't drink any water. I have some that if you left it then would take a week to drink but I was like this mofo won't touch it. Even if you sit his food in water he will take it out then eat it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyRed View Post
    That's my assumption as well, i'm not worried bc he doesn't act any different then he has.. Still very high energy I was just wondering for others who feed raw if they experienced this. I've been feeding raw for some years now but this is 1st time I had pup who won't drink any water. I have some that if you left it then would take a week to drink but I was like this mofo won't touch it. Even if you sit his food in water he will take it out then eat it lol.
    As long as he is urinating properly, I wouldn't sweat it.

    Different dogs have different metabolisms.

    If his needs are minimal, then my guess is his stamina will prove to be phenomenal ... so I bet this one will have great air

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    Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
    As long as he is urinating properly, I wouldn't sweat it.

    Different dogs have different metabolisms.

    If his needs are minimal, then my guess is his stamina will prove to be phenomenal ... so I bet this one will have great air
    Thanks Jack, yes still pees regular and still has good stool.. Crazy analysis you made because the first trait that comes to mind with the history of his pedigree up close and going back is very good winded and game dogs.. Mouth shows up here and there but its game dogs with great wind and smarts.. I've come to learn that's all we need..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyRed View Post
    Thanks Jack, yes still pees regular and still has good stool.. Crazy analysis you made because the first trait that comes to mind with the history of his pedigree up close and going back is very good winded and game dogs.. Mouth shows up here and there but its game dogs with great wind and smarts.. I've come to learn that's all we need..
    Think about it conceptually

    If a dog's metabolism is burning up food, burning up water, to where it has to replenish its fluids much more rapidly than normal ... the odds of it being a truly 'long haul' animal are slim

    By contrast, if a dog's metabolism is such that it requires little food, uses almost no water, then the odd are that this dog will be able to retain its energy levels for a longer period of time.

    It's the difference between one dog "burning its candle at both ends" while another burns very slowly ...

    Jack

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    That is a great analysis Jack and kind of something I've been kinda shush about.

    I have a buddy who also had a pup that refused water. She was fed kibble though, the only way he could get her to drink was to pour it out of the bowl onto the floor. She was about the same age but only shipped a few hours away from where she was born. His thought was if she's to dumb to drink life sustaining fluid I don't need her. She was becoming dehydrated so he felt it was best to euthanize.

    Looking back at that situation and yours could it be something as simple as not having the competition of her littermates to drink? I know when I've had a small litter 1,2 or 3 pups they mature much slower. But a larger litter they are all trying to be 1st at everything, and if you put down a bowl of water they are trying to out drink the littermates! So like me on a Saturday night maybe she needs a drinking buddy to show her the ropes? lol

    Or maybe the bowl you have is to reflective or moves and makes a sound and it spooks her?

    Good luck and let us know what happens.

    S_B

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_B View Post
    That is a great analysis Jack and kind of something I've been kinda shush about.

    I have a buddy who also had a pup that refused water. She was fed kibble though, the only way he could get her to drink was to pour it out of the bowl onto the floor. She was about the same age but only shipped a few hours away from where she was born. His thought was if she's to dumb to drink life sustaining fluid I don't need her. She was becoming dehydrated so he felt it was best to euthanize.

    Looking back at that situation and yours could it be something as simple as not having the competition of her littermates to drink? I know when I've had a small litter 1,2 or 3 pups they mature much slower. But a larger litter they are all trying to be 1st at everything, and if you put down a bowl of water they are trying to out drink the littermates! So like me on a Saturday night maybe she needs a drinking buddy to show her the ropes? lol

    Or maybe the bowl you have is to reflective or moves and makes a sound and it spooks her?

    Good luck and let us know what happens.

    S_B
    Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that, because first thing i said maybe he needs the metal pan that he was fed out of when he was back home. So i swtiched it to that and he wouldn't drink so i said maybe the pan too big and he steps in it. So i swtiched to the smaller black bowls still nothing.

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    I have fed raw for over 15 years , what you describe is a normal situation at my place
    it has come to the point where I dont even have water bowls for two I keep in the house , I give a bit of water with the meat every 3 or 4 day's

    the dogs in the kennel have bowls but seldom drink any water at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldoghistorian View Post
    I have fed raw for over 15 years , what you describe is a normal situation at my place
    it has come to the point where I dont even have water bowls for two I keep in the house , I give a bit of water with the meat every 3 or 4 day's

    the dogs in the kennel have bowls but seldom drink any water at all
    I was just thinking that as well, the others that are on the chain don't drink much either. I switched the bowls in the morning and later so i don't really measure but i do notice they don't drink water at all neither. I'm wondering if the water missing is from evaporation lol. In fact the only dog that does drink water is one of my buddy's that I'm holding and believe it or not, she is the one and only kibble fed dog here. He don't want her on raw so i told him long as he buys the food she can stay. Her Water bowl is always closer to empty than half way lol.

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