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    Defects

    Does bushy tail...bobtail...or kink tail hurt performance

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    These are defects,may, or may not, effect,performance, but do not breed this animal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendall Hoyle View Post
    These are defects,may, or may not, effect,performance, but do not breed this animal.
    What, You wouldn't breed a good dog because of a bushy tail? You are kidding right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendall Hoyle View Post
    These are defects,may, or may not, effect,performance, but do not breed this animal.
    I agree.

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    if bushy tail hurts performance I am in a load of trouble

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    The truth is,I am not a breeder, nor have I ever, but if I was to start, and maintain a line, I would be extremely
    Selective in my choices, I personally would not want bushy tailed dogs, I prefer a slick,water pump look, but this is
    Just my humble option, I also would not breed a bobtail dog , that is a spinal defect, same thing with a kink tail.
    If a bushy tail dog was a good dog, I would just realize and respect him as a good dog, but I would not breed him. The same could be said for a man biter.
    Again this is my true and humble option, now, if we were to have the same conversation in two years from now it
    It may be different, my best to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kendall Hoyle View Post
    The truth is,I am not a breeder, nor have I ever, but if I was to start, and maintain a line, I would be extremely
    Selective in my choices, I personally would not want bushy tailed dogs, I prefer a slick,water pump look, but this is
    Just my humble option, I also would not breed a bobtail dog , that is a spinal defect, same thing with a kink tail.
    If a bushy tail dog was a good dog, I would just realize and respect him as a good dog, but I would not breed him. The same could be said for a man biter.
    Again this is my true and humble option, now, if we were to have the same conversation in two years from now it
    It may be different, my best to you
    I respect your opinion and, like you, my views and opinions on things concerning the dogs is constantly changing and evolving, however I do not view a man biter and a bushy tailed dog in the same light what so ever. If I have a dog that can perform, has brains, stamina, durability, gameness etc and a bushy tail, he gets bred. If I have a dog that can perform but is a man biter, no thanks i'll pass. A man biter is a liability I don't want to deal with. I just don't think that a dog that will bite humans without good reason is a dog that should pass there genes forward. I don't have the resources to pass on a good dog with a good disposition that happens to have a bushy tail. Even if I don't prefer a bushy tail, I will take it if the rest of the package is there.

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    back in the 90's I met a fella he was also opposed to bushy tails , our conversation were cut short due to tragic events his name was tattoo
    sometimes late I met his good friend and mentor captain , cap went on about bushy tails for some time , he was convinced they were not purebred and garbage
    I have not heard from captain in ages , I am not sure he is even alive today

    long story short , I disagree with the above , I consider it in the same category as gunpowder for dogs
    I can understand that a certain build is preferable , I can even understand how a screw tail may be linked in previous studies with hemivertebrae

    but I never heard any of them linked to a bulldog being a bulldog

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldoghistorian View Post
    back in the 90's I met a fella he was also opposed to bushy tails , our conversation were cut short due to tragic events his name was tattoo
    sometimes late I met his good friend and mentor captain , cap went on about bushy tails for some time , he was convinced they were not purebred and garbage
    I have not heard from captain in ages , I am not sure he is even alive today

    long story short , I disagree with the above , I consider it in the same category as gunpowder for dogs
    I can understand that a certain build is preferable , I can even understand how a screw tail may be linked in previous studies with hemivertebrae

    but I never heard any of them linked to a bulldog being a bulldog
    The dog in my avatar has a bit of a bushy tail and he is all bulldog

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    Just IMHO. Due to the many large dogs used back in the mid 70's to 80's/90's. The dogs moved from a Bull Terrier type of Pit dog to a more Bulldog type of Pit dog.

    These larger bulldog types could handle longer tread mill work,pulling etc. than the smaller bull terrier type dogs could handle. Many areas that dog persons live today have a lack of space and privacy. Hence extra large round tables/swinging jenny/and private areas to walk a dog are not accessible to most. Why the tread mill and those electric dog walkers etc. have been used a lot. Smaller dogs cannot take a lot of mill work and need a balance of hand waking/easy jogging to better condition them.

    Our original dogs were called Pit Bull Terriers, not Pit Bulldogs. You seldom see a very nice seal skin, rat tail Pit Bull terrier types today. I have no problem with what I call a balanced Colby type head backed up with a powerful Bull terrier body. Yielding a larger boned, deeper chested dog for the weight class ratio. This was more of the newer ADBA standard. A example of comparison would be some of Ca. Jacks dogs. Those little dogs I had off the Mayfield's Snake X my Young's Tina bitch were very similar in looks and type build. Except for color, my dogs had the Colby colors and one solid black dog.

    When I moved to the Bully Son line etc. dogs jumped in size to a more Bulldog type looking dogs. That tail got bigger also, but not fuzzy. LOL Mayfield would not give me anymore access to breeding to the Snake dog or the Sunshine dog. Due to falling out with V.J.

    Even though one seldom can get all of one's preference in the build type. I still liked a dog built like the Jimmy Boots dog/Garner's Dolly/Crenshaw's Rascal, even though these were bigger dogs. Yet still more Bull Terrier in looks and build type.I liked the looks of some of the old Komosinski/Ozzie Stevens dogs back then.

    I know overall, dogs do not perform by just looks, yet I personally would never breed from or to a Pit Bull dog that has a big bushy tail or any other extreme body oddity that is not according to the older Bull Terrier standard. One of my reason being in today's times. Too many dog persons let bitches in heat stay on their chain. Instead of being put up ahead of time in a very secure brood pen off the ground. Even in my time in the dogs,had a few tell me no stray dog can breed this bitch,she is a killer. Yet ole fuzzy down the road gets a whiff of that bitch, will come a calling every time. Does a little fancy pacifist dance in front of that killer bitch. Ole Fuzzy will nail that killer bitch every time. Long gone before the owner has known what has happen. LOL

    IMHO I still feel the over all better dogs that will perform the best are those bred and kept closer to the old American Pit Bull (Terrier) standard of Raplh Greenwood or Pete Sparks Terrier standard showed on his My friend and Yours magazine. Another example I like is the Corvino's Jerry dog. Excellent picture of this dog and it's pedigree in the pedigree listing. Cheers
    Last edited by CYJ; 04-09-2016 at 10:52 AM.

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