Vice-Grip/Little John

[Thunder98]

For sale $1500 firm. Great little female....pm for more information.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=50063

[Sub Grappler]

Lewis you don't have papers on this dog nor did you pay a dime for her. You were to return her if you did not want her
And you had the opportunity to return her before and I had already set up transport for her and you changed your mind 3 times. Now you try to sell her?

[brokeback]

Hopefully there's a misunderstanding between you two. The dog world needs more stand up, honest folks then the lying low lifes that unfortunately are attracted to this great breed. Hope you all get it worked out.

[No Quarter Kennel]

Fellows, I know Sub Grappler extremely well. Straight up man of integrity. No way in hell there's a misunderstanding. This douche bag is trying to make money on a dog that does not belong to him, he does not have papers on and he is violated his agreement with whom he obtained the dog. Scumbag piece of shit. Get the dog back to Grappler like you are supposed to.

The "fraternity" is smaller than you realize and circles overlap more than you know. Do what's right b/f it costs you something significant.

[Thunder98]

Better yet...you can have her back...no problem. ...

[Thunder98]

Hold on a sec man...first off I have $500.00 in this dog between the transporter and the vet bills. Its not like I received a healthy dog...the dog had coccidia, runny eyes ,worming and malnourished both of the bitches and yours too. I was told to do whatever I WANTED TO DO.WITH THE DOG....whatever....I truly dont recall no quarters kennels being on the phone...I assumed the bitch was mines...if it were all about money, I could have bred her and sold pups and made more....u think no quarters. ...just bred the bitch out....

Understand that I could have had this dog for 10 years and did god knows what and Steve she would still be your dog....I could have gave her to other people to bred as long as I trusted them,you would have known nothing...because you said do what you want with her....

Youmare correct about the 3 times....I told you she was an extreme barker....barks 24/7....no fucking matter what I.did...bark collars and all, yet I LIKED THE BITCH SO MUCH FOR OTHER THINGS, that I was willing to work with it.......I really dont care about papers.,crash was 8 months old when I got his only ask for those because I bought him and it took so long...

If I were trying to hide anything from you...or no quarters kennels. ...I damn sure wouldn't post it next to your post.....I thought the bitch was mines...

P.S. I dont appreciate you using my name like that but cool...

[brokeback]

Everybody is different and we all act and think differently. Having said that, if I was in that same exact situation, I would have called grappler and explained the situation and gave the opportunity for him to get the dog back. That's just from my point of view and how I would have handled it. Not to take sides but that's how I would have done it. Sounds like he may want her back. That's the right thing to do. In my humble opinion. Good luck, both of you.

[brokeback]

See, all just a little misunderstanding. That's good. Glad y'all are working it out.


On another note, if it was just barking causing you to sell her then it must be really bad. I don't care about barking at all. It may be a little further away from the house and probably a longer 20' chain or possibly a long 100' cable run but I wouldn't get rid of a dog for that. Like I said before, good luck to you both.

[Thunder98]

The barking would have people thinking im not paying attention to my dogs.....furthest thing from the truth...she began to show other they could do it....that's the only reason it took 3 times, again I was set on breaking her but from barking...I didn't want to give up on her....the bark collar began to bother her neck....as if I had been somewhere with her....she would sometimes shake that head to move the electrode around the back of her head......@3 in the morning crank up.....now every bodies barking...im like wtf. .....imma break her I thought...

[Sub Grappler]

Sorry just getting a chance to post. Thunder and I talked this morning it's all good now. No hard feelings we are on the same page. Really don't want to argue over a dog on the board. I should have waited a little longer on the phone call back
My bad. Like I said its all good. I'm sure you will get some nice ones from her