Brodt's CH NINJA

[S_B]

I believe CH NINJA to be off of CH JEEP.

Thoughts...?

[RAK]

I wasn't even aware there are as many versions as there are of the story of Brodt's Ninja.

Some say Jeep x Dotty, others Chinaman x Dotty, then I find the TG stuff that says Chinaman x Bandit. Along with who is Jeep really off of and was he even bred after the bout with Homer.

My vote is leave it Jeep x Dotty as shown by Brodt. There are "tales" behind how Carver, Boudreaux and Teal show some dogs but those aren't changed.

[CYJ]

There is even contradictions in that article from maybe a miss placement of the word A. Note it says to "A CH Chinaman dog. Not to the CH Chinaman dog.

The other questions arises is why would the owner of Jeep give this Brodt fellow a stud certificate. If Jeep was not the sire. Why would the owner of Jeep want to get even with Tom or Vinny over this Brodt man's hard luck story. What would they have to gain?

ADBA would not register any of my litters or someone breeding to one of my ADBA stud dogs. Their bitch dog had to be a ADBA registered dog. A stud certificate had to be signed and dated by me. A individual unregistered dog could not be registered by ADBA without proper proof of pedigree/pictures of siblings and known witnesses. The dog would be in the ADBA system but not get a assigned ADBA #.

If this Brodt fellow was that revengeful. Not much one could believe of what ever he says or has done. Will put back as Jeep x Dotty. Cheers

[S_B]

Exactly CYJ, why would the owners of CH JEEP entertain a fake breeding off of their stud. And I don't buy the story to give him more points on the ROM list.

I believe the CH NINJA dog made his way to Cali and VR took a liking to him and wanted it to be off CH CHINAMAN...this wouldn't be the first of suspect dealings I've heard throughout the years with him. As far as Don Brodt, he's dead but I'm sure folks that knew him personally talked to him about this as its been controversial for quite some time.

S_B

[Rolltidepride]

The guys who bred him came clean
He'd off Chinaman x Dotty
They started the jeep rumor because garners mom kicked them off her property for not paying rent

[FrostyPaws]

Rolltidepride, I don't think Garrett or Brodt have ever "come clean" about anything of the sort.

[CrazyRed]

Rolltidepride, I don't think Garrett or Brodt have ever "come clean" about anything of the sort.

Garrett did not come clean about that because when I spoke with him he said Brodt had bred several dogs to Jeep.. He said he was told that Jeep was the sire but after years folks was bringing up Chinaman.

[BULLDOG ANONYMOUS]

Genetics shine past them lies. IMO

[BULLDOG ANONYMOUS]

Ninja is a spitting image of Ch.Chinaman

[FrostyPaws]

Ninja is a black dog just like a ton of Rascal dogs were also, and I don't subscribe to the idea that just because a dog is black, that it has to be off Chinaman when Ninja's dam was black also.