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    does breeding affect performance?

    how many of you think breeding your dog affects the way they hunt? we have a good dog and my partner thinks we should breed to him before his next but i say it weakens them. any opinions on this?

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    I don't want to sound rude, but that's just silly. It does NOT "weaken" a dog to breed them.

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    why is the question silly? thank you for your opinion but do you have anything solid supporting your view? my thinking is if breeding doesn't weaken a dog why do boxers refrain from sex before a fight?

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    Breeding a dog doesn't affect the way they do their job. After knowing countless people that have bred their show quality dogs and never seeing it affect them one way or another, I feel pretty confident in my opinion. That goes for males and females.

    I can't say why a boxer doesn't have sex the night before a fight as I've never been a boxer. It's probably one of the many things that people do because they believe it makes a difference wherein reality, it probably makes no difference. I try not to compare dogs and people in regards to such things. If you want to know if it makes a difference, breed a dog one day and have some activity with it the next day. You'll have your own answer for your dog.

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    I'd like to know your reference point to boxers and this practice other places besides the movie Rocky. "Women weaken legs" is a line in a movie.

    As for my own personal experience, I've seen a ton in regards to human performance. As a collegiate football player and national level strength competitor, I can say, from experiences, sex b/f competition, WITHIN HOURS, does absolutely NOTHING negative to human performance. I'm with Frosty though and don't understand comparisons b/t humans and canine.

    I didn't mean to insult you and if I did, I apologize. It was silly to me as I know better, but I'm glad you asked instead, so you know and I'll bet you helped someone else who was wondering as well. Kudos to you friend.

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    I have put this age-old question to the test myself and I would have to agree that breeding a bitch doesn't affect a thing. Here is what I did:

    I had a dog named Pretty Boy, who was a 35 lb 1xW in 2:42 and a 1xL(G) in 1:10. Pretty Boy couldn't bust a grape, but he was game as a dog can get. I used him to start an 11 month old puppy named Icon. (Yes, I normally don't start dogs this young, but Icon was so intense and so destructive on the chain, I figured he needed to release some energy.) Anyway, Icon was only 31 lb.

    Well, I had been breeding Pretty Boy all week long when I did the roll, and the 11-month old PUPPY Icon mopped-up the floor with Pretty Boy. I figured "it had to be" because I was breeding Pretty Boy. Well, check this out

    9 months later, Icon proved to be an Ace-level head dog, and HE was now breeding bitches ... and I had bred HIM all week long to 3 different bitches. So I got to thinking, "I wonder if this will affect his performance?", and so I again put him with Pretty Boy (who was the one rested now, while Icon was the one being bred). And guess what happened?

    Once again, Icon mopped-up the floor with Pretty Boy, and the conclusion I drew was that the better dog will win, whether you breed him or not

    Jack

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    I have experience with this situation before. It could affect the male right away after he just got done breeding but if he is well rested then no. It won't affect him. I used to breed one of my male every time he won a contest. That was his prize for winning. It didn't affect him whatsoever. On the other hand my ex partner had a male who became a champion after so many miles of being in the pit, then was retired to be bred. Once that dog started breeding he was obsessed with getting off. Well ex partner decided to take him out for his 4th against a young dog and had me c/h him. After a couple weeks in I noticed his champion jacking off everyday. I told him about it and tried desperately to have him pay the forfeit but he wouldnt listen. So come show time, that champion had a cotton mouth and wouldnt fight. He got doa in half an hour. His Kidneys shut down and his whole body just swoll up within minutes. So yes it could affect a dog. I also used to work male dogs while they're supposedly be breeding and it does affect them when I tried to breed them. Their urge is not all there after a walk or workout. Those are just my experiences. Not saying it'll affect every dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGDOGG View Post
    I have experience with this situation before. It could affect the male right away after he just got done breeding but if he is well rested then no. It won't affect him. I used to breed one of my male every time he won a contest. That was his prize for winning. It didn't affect him whatsoever. On the other hand my ex partner had a male who became a champion after so many miles of being in the pit, then was retired to be bred. Once that dog started breeding he was obsessed with getting off. Well ex partner decided to take him out for his 4th against a young dog and had me c/h him. After a couple weeks in I noticed his champion jacking off everyday. I told him about it and tried desperately to have him pay the forfeit but he wouldnt listen. So come show time, that champion had a cotton mouth and wouldnt fight. He got doa in half an hour. His Kidneys shut down and his whole body just swoll up within minutes. So yes it could affect a dog. I also used to work male dogs while they're supposedly be breeding and it does affect them when I tried to breed them. Their urge is not all there after a walk or workout. Those are just my experiences. Not saying it'll affect every dog.

    I am sorry, but if that dog's body swelled-up and his kidneys shut down it had nothing to do with his "masturbation," it had to do with his getting bit and killed while no one picked him up.

    Masturbation does not cause "kidney failure" or "body swelling" ...

    Jack

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    I know that wasn't the cause. Just stating what happened to a dog who went through a keep masterbating every day. He obviously wasn't in the right mind to begin with. It was a tragic his owner didn't throw in the towel either. I guess that's why he called himself Leave em Dead kennel.
    "thx for the responses but i don't understand how a dog jacks off like ogdog said" if you haven't seen a male dog jack off then wait til you see one, its pretty nasty.

  10. #10
    What you are talking about is an "exception". It wasn't the "breeding" that did anything to your dog, it was his "addiction" that hurt that particular dog. Also, b/c exerting oneself makes the organism too tired to function properly does not go back the other way. It's not math and doesn't work both ways.

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