Poncho Dogs

[CitySwamp]

I know Silverback is the prime source now and might not have "Poncho" in him but is off Poncho littermate sister. Where are the Poncho dogs at? And where are the Poncho/Cola dogs at? And what are those beautiful hounds Black Storm(Heavy Poncho/Cola/Silver) and Iron Golem (Silver/Poncho) producing if bred at all yet?

[pig mad]

Poncho basicaly a patricks dog?

[ponchday]

Here's my poncho dog
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...php?dog_id=310
Very happy with him.

[Milky]

I've like to get some info about these animals if anyone got any and would like to share it.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=5803

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=5804

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...php?dog_id=225

[Officially Retired]

I've like to get some info about these animals if anyone got any and would like to share it.

Hornet

LuLu

Bandana

Vise-Grip's Hornet was a littermate to EZ's Chase and Chita, both super producers, but was rolled only once, into a Frisco dog. Hornet beat this dog, but it didn't go long. I only bred to him once, because the guy I sold him to never looked at him really, and at the time I had Stormbringer, Poncho, Duke Nukem, etc., so I just didn't care too much about Hornet. Well, based on the all-game litter he threw (bred to LuLu), including the truly great Ch Mr. Serious, and based on the incredible success of EZ's bloodline (based on his sister/brother), I should have bred to Hornet A LOT ... but just didn't.

Vise-Grip's LuLu was a mean, rough bitch. She was bred (untouched) to Hornet to produce Mr. Serious (see this thread), but after she had the pups, I rolled her into Hornet's other sister Zipper (who was smaller). Zipper outclassed the shit out of LuLu, but when LuLu's size caught up with Zipper, she wrecked her pretty bad. LuLu was very rough and powerful, but a little slow and crude for my taste, so I sold her to Pine Top Kennels. He matched her into Celtic Club Kennels, and LuLu weathered an early storm, and scratched on her chin to stop their bitch in like 1:06 I think. She produced Ch Mr. Serious when bred to Hornet, and another Champion when bred to a Boyles dog.

Vise-Grip's Bandana was pure poison. She was lightning-fast and stronger than most any 3 dogs her own weight, and is behind several phenomenally-powerful animals (Ch Vengence / Ch Tulipa 4xW, etc.). Bandana only had one gear: FORWARD ... and at 30 lb she could push/smash 35 lb bitches into the corner and would root into their kidneys and guts. No dog ever made Bandana take a backward step. Ever. Not one time. She could be controlled on the head by certain ace head dogs (Jezebel / Cherry Coke / Stone Rose) ... but if you were not an A+ head dog, she would be buried in your kidneys, or wearing your stomach like a hat, shaking the bejesus out of you. Any dog that could not keep Bandana out had to be picked up immediately.

Jack

[SGC]

Vise-Grip's Hornet was a littermate to EZ's Chase and Chita, both super producers, but was rolled only once, into a Frisco dog. Hornet beat this dog, but it didn't go long. I only bred to him once, because the guy I sold him to never looked at him really, and at the time I had Stormbringer, Poncho, Duke Nukem, etc., so I just didn't care too much about Hornet. Well, based on the all-game litter he threw (bred to LuLu), including the truly great Ch Mr. Serious, and based on the incredible success of EZ's bloodline (based on his sister/brother), I should have bred to Hornet A LOT ... but just didn't.

Vise-Grip's LuLu was a mean, rough bitch. She was bred (untouched) to Hornet to produce Mr. Serious (see this thread), but after she had the pups, I rolled her into Hornet's other sister Zipper (who was smaller). Zipper outclassed the shit out of LuLu, but when LuLu's size caught up with Zipper, she wrecked her pretty bad. LuLu was very rough and powerful, but a little slow and crude for my taste, so I sold her to Pine Top Kennels. He matched her into Celtic Club Kennels, and LuLu weathered an early storm, and scratched on her chin to stop their bitch in like 1:06 I think. She produced Ch Mr. Serious when bred to Hornet, and another Champion when bred to a Boyles dog.

Vise-Grip's Bandana was pure poison. She was lightning-fast and stronger than most any 3 dogs her own weight, and is behind several phenomenally-powerful animals (Ch Vengence / Ch Tulipa 4xW, etc.). Bandana only had one gear: FORWARD ... and at 30 lb she could push/smash 35 lb bitches into the corner and would root into their kidneys and guts. No dog ever made Bandana take a backward step. Ever. Not one time. She could be controlled on the head by certain ace head dogs (Jezebel / Cherry Coke / Stone Rose) ... but if you were not an A+ head dog, she would be buried in your kidneys, or wearing your stomach like a hat, shaking the bejesus out of you. Any dog that could not keep Bandana out had to be picked up immediately.

Jack

Thank you for the detailed history on those dogs. I always liked Mr. Serious, and looking at the photos of his littermates as pups, the whole litter looks excellent.

Are there any living offspring left off of Ch Mr. Serious? I know JBoogy had a few but I've not seen him post in a long time and I am not on Peds any more.

[Officially Retired]

Give me till this evening ... gotta go to the USDA right now

[evolutionkennels]

Give me till this evening ... gotta go to the USDA right now

What a pain in the ass the usda is. Anyway, when I was in north Carolina... many moon's ago, I saw a deadgame crawling dog that should have been picked up. After the fact.. I asked how the he'll the dog was bred thinking it was a rbj dog. I asked and the dbag owner said it was a poncho dog. That was my first experience with a visegrip dog and to this day, haven't seen one stop. And That's why I added it to my program.

[Officially Retired]

What a pain in the ass the usda is. Anyway, when I was in north Carolina... many moon's ago, I saw a deadgame crawling dog that should have been picked up. After the fact.. I asked how the he'll the dog was bred thinking it was a rbj dog. I asked and the dbag owner said it was a poncho dog. That was my first experience with a visegrip dog and to this day, haven't seen one stop. And That's why I added it to my program.

You ain't lying. Drove an hour to the USDA and they claimed I used the wrong form, so had to drive back to my vet, get another form filled, and an hour back to the USDA again. So "pain in the ass" is an understatement

Jack

PS: Exceptional gameness has been a hallmark of these dogs ... do you remember which one you saw that day? Was it owned by Eloheem?

[evolutionkennels]

You ain't lying. Drove an hour to the USDA and they claimed I used the wrong form, so had to drive back to my vet, get another form filled, and an hour back to the USDA again. So "pain in the ass" is an understatement

Jack

PS: Exceptional gameness has been a hallmark of these dogs ... do you remember which one you saw that day? Was it owned by Eloheem?

It wasn't him. It may have been bred down from stuff you sold him.