Have been told jeep doesnt go well with sorrells only as a battle cross not as a line so any truth to this has anyone had good go at it??
Also heard that banjo/sorrells tatonka did werent much chop any truth in this??
What other lines do or dont mix well???
It is hard to tell because people stick to what works for them, you know.Originally Posted by pig mad
If you make a failed cross once, chances are you dropped that idea quick lol
I think most of the successful crosses are ones that were dynamite from the get
Been told they work well but dont produce. Could that be just from poor breeding selection?
Somewhere in here I have a pretty deep post about "crossing" and (really) just the whole idea of blanket statements about "what works" in general.
I am in the process of moving right now, so I don't have a lot of time to post for the moment, but in general when you think about breeding dogs you need to think about individuals used as well as "general" truths. For example, Redboy/Jocko is a time-proven cross ... and yet I have seen some awfully suckass individual RBJ dogs. Of course, I have seen good ones, but just because a cross may be proven good "in general" doesn't mean that every time 'you' breed RBJ dogs you're going to get good ones.
And the same is true in reverse. Just because a few people may not have had succeeded with that cross (using "their" dogs) doesn't mean you won't succeed with the same basic cross using your dogs. For example (and I guess I should have posted this in the Sorrells' thread), but here is the pedigree of Gr Ch Milo, who not only was a badass dog, but who also sired multiple Champions bred to a variety of different bitches. I knew this dog personally, and the man who owned him actually matched against Milo ... who took a hateful beating ... but who turned things around and won (while displaying so much gameness in the process) that the old man bought him on the spot ... and then produced multiple winners with the dog ... who is essentially a watered-down Jeep/Sorrells' cross.
He wound up being THE top stud dog for the old man who had him ... so the moral to this is 1) different individuals within the same basic cross produce different results, which means 2) "other people's" efforts have ZERO bearing on how your efforts may turn out (and that works either way, good or bad).
So you will never know until you try ...
Jack
Thanks might have to give it a go
what jack said is so true and cant really say it better at all id like to just say 1 thing on the subject dont generalize blood lines in these dogs the older u get and wiser you get you will see why i say this cause what say jim does with his jeep/sorrels dogs or how his breedings turned out have no true grit on your possible results and achievements i mean if you get a good dog out that breeding are you gonna not keep it cause it failed as a cross in the breeding area on some buddy else's yard make your own history try your own breedings best thing to do is have good individuals from the get go.
Yeah i should have done it this time around instead i listened to others and put someone elses dog over her i regreted it straight away.
My male is trouble maker game trains hard but short winded he is the sorrell my bitch is trouble trains hard brilliant stamina but untested but comes from 1 of australias best lines of jeep outcrossed to banjo i wanted to do the breeding bad cause id like to see how good my bitch is next year she turns 2 in december but fell victim to the peir pressure hahaha oh well
I own this male and he is the truth. Him and his litter mates are looking great.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...?dog_id=444430
Do you use it for schutzhund?
Not yet. But we will see.
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