Sandman won 11 and was hooked for 12 when he keeled over on the chain. Devastating animal touch of rbj ..through ch.poncho son of boots.
http://www.machobuck.com/Machobear%20II%20X%20Ch.LC.htm
Sandman was littermate to ch.lc.
Now... From that breeding to bear... There is 5 that will come out this fall. one named demon is the best they've seen in Arkansas and north texas.
Touch would be a good word, as it's only 6%.
Here is the pedigree of Gr Ch Sandman, on this database, so we can all see/assess it properly:
Looks like there's at least 50% Bolio/Carver in there through Walker's TBoy/Gabe/BBRed.
Not to mention the 38% Virgil.
Carver and Bolio dogs have repeatedly produced 7-14x winners with NO RBJ in them.
The thing I am trying to stress is that RBJ dogs can't get there with no Eli/Carver in them.
The dog you posted, if he won 11x, is essentially just another multi-winning Carver cross (50%), with 38% Virgil, and with only a touch of RBJ (6%).
Jack
Preaching to the choir as all my stuff is half Bolio tombstone. That dog came to mind when you said that more than 5x have no rbj whatsoever.. given my propensity to debate .. I had to find an 11x with some in there, even if it was a touch.Originally Posted by CA Jack
. And he was the real deal. Downtown shaped him for his last one.
LMAO, okay, gotcha
BTW, I just edited my post as added the Sandman dog to the database.
It will be interesting to see how this works for you!
LMAO, okay, gotcha
BTW, I just edited my post as added the Sandman dog to the database.
It will be interesting to see how this works for you!
They aren't mine, I wish they were
Here is another interesting anecdote, regarding dog quality, and bloodline superiority:
Right now, I am going back-and-forth with Fat Bill on the subject of Holligsworth's Riot versus Ch Zabo.
This touches on the gameness of RBJ dogs versus Hollingsworth dogs ... as well as multi-winning capability.
Fat Bill matched directly into both Fletcher Chavis and into Hollingsworth/Butch Davis with his 4xW Ch Zabo.
Fletcher Chavis' pure RBJ dog, in his hands directly, was snuffed and quit in a mere :22. (I am trying to get the ped now.)
Meanwhile the 100% pure Hollingsworth's Riot went nearly 6x that long, finally losing in 2:02, but Riot killed Zabo too.
BUT, here again, ultimately the Eli/Carver dog Ch Zabo won and brought home the money ...
Some interesting patterns here, folks
Jack
This is another pretty legendary dog http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...php?dog_id=922
Agreed.
If I bothered to list all of the Eli/Carver-type dogs, that have won 7 (or more) fights, it would DWARF the stats of any other cross made.
And the legendary Art is just the tip of the Iceberg ... not to mention he's the sire of the dog who whipped Jocko's 4xW brother Ch Argo
Yard is full of eli carver dogs.
Next topic please.... Close this one down.
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