FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ......

[Officially Retired]

So if someone posts a picture of GrCh Buck and says name this dog are you gonna get your panties in a bunch what's the difference nada hound by informal definition is any dog. Saying that someone using the word " hound" (witch means any breed that pursues game by sight or smell) is a huge insult is asinine hell I hardly use the term but this shit here is ridiculous. Do u know how many old men around here call any type of breed a hound are you going to be disrespectful and call them retarded or a fucktard I would hope not. Sounds like y'all have a pet peeve to me I thought this was a site for gentlemen not childish grown ass men who call people fucktards and retarded because they choose to say hound instead of pit bull or bulldog or dog.

Seems like you have you have your panties in the tightest wad of all ... and yes, I do think you're retarded if you believe these dogs are "hounds"; they're not.

Hounds are a specific type of dog, and bulldogs are not included amongst this group, and (yes) it's retarded to try to label them otherwise.

Calling Gr Ch Buck a "dog" is correct (as bulldogs are a kind of dog).
Calling Gr Ch Buck a "hound" (which is a specific type of dog Buck is not) is wrong. Period.

Further, there is a certain badge of honor implied in the word "bulldog," and people who care about their dogs make sure they give it to them.

Those who who don't give a damn don't feel it's important.

Based on what these dogs go through, to stay alive on a yard, and which places them in the group they belong in, they deserve to be called what they are.

[Officially Retired]

I call my dogs what I want to I raised them I feed them I clean up after them I sweat beside them i work them....stop worrying what the next man is saying or doing that is why it is hard to even own a APBT people dont know how to mind there own business everybody wants the attention of owning a pit bull the hype IMO only a fucktard hypes the fact he owns game bred dogs out of sight is out of mind.
Food for thought!

You can call them what you want, but that doesn't make you correct.

You can call a spider an "insect," but it simply means you're ignorant. Spiders belong to a different kind of arthropod group.

Calling a German shepherd a "hound" is just as retarded as calling a bulldog a hound.

There are many people who say ignorant, stupid shit on a daily basis ... and, if you enjoy being amongst that group, you're correct it is your right to be amongst said group of retards ... but it doesn't mean people who know better need to join that group.

Some people care enough about what they're talking about to attempt to speak with precision and make important distinctions

Jack

[FrostyPaws]

I call my dogs bulldogs around whomever when they ask what type of dog I have. When I say bulldog, the first thing they say ask is if they're English Bulldogs? I simply tell them no and just repeat bulldogs. That is the answer they get, and invariably they stop asking after receiving the same answer.

[bamaman]

I say hounds from time to time. I've heard it from a man who I believe has over 40yrs in this sport. I believe from time to time he calls them curs and mutts also. Anyone know of a guy who has Shannon River Terriers? Some of us who posted probably do....hint.

We all have different opinions and ways of going about things. Some do it to not deal with the negative attention received when saying bulldog or Pitbull or whatever. Others are more intense about bulldogging than others I agree, nothing wrong with that either. If you don't like it when referring to your dogs let them know. Hopefully the convo continues and bulldogging is the topic. Honestly I know what I'm working with & have got too much going on to worry about what somebody else calls my dogs, words ain't never proved shit.

But then again......... I was taught it ain't a BULLDOG until it proves it is. Kind of along the same lines as just cause you have dogs it doesn't make you a dogman. Certain things have to be deemed so. But like I said we all have our different ways, maybe good for finding who's on your side and who's across from you. LOL

Not intended for anyone in particular just a broad post on the matter.

Lol yeah I think I may know that guy !

[Eliman]

The only thing that gets under my skin is everybody has there opinion on how somebody else needs to conduct themselves but the guidelines don't apply to them you want people to show respect but you disrespect them in the process of the request and I'm the ignorant one lol every man is right in his own eyes have at it

[Officially Retired]

The only thing that gets under my skin is everybody has there opinion on how somebody else needs to conduct themselves but the guidelines don't apply to them you want people to show respect but you disrespect them in the process of the request and I'm the ignorant one lol every man is right in his own eyes have at it

I see I need to clarify everything for you. First, it was to point out that bulldogs are not hounds. This isn't an opinion, it is a fact.

Now you're saying it is ignorant to be disrespectful, so let me help you think accurately once more:

Ignorance = ignorance (being wrong and not knowing any better)
Being disrespectful = being disrespectful (not treating people with dignity)

They're not the same thing either

Now then, if you want to call me a hypocrite, for being a tad disrespectful, when I expect people to be respectful, then I am guilty as charged

However, being a hypocrite isn't being ignorant either, lol, so you have some real trouble understanding your words and applying them correctly

So, as a recap, here is what we've learned today:

Hounds are dogs.
Pit bulls are dogs
But pit bulls are not hounds and hounds are not pit bulls.

And it is IGNORANT to say or think otherwise.

Ignorance is not disrespect, and disrespect is not ignorance, and it is IGNORANT to interchange these words as if they mean the same thing.

However, making rules that you expect others to follow, and then not following them yourself, is HYPOCRITICAL, and I agree

Jack

[wrknapbt]

Calling a German shepherd a "hound" is just as retarded as calling a bulldog a hound.

Not to change the subject because I agree with the name BULLDOG is title that is earned not given to each and every American Pit Bull Terrier.

To call a GSD hound is not retarded as it may seem in it's country of final completion of standard it's called the Deutsch Schäferhund as most dogs in that country are called hund or pronounced hound as it refers to a dog. Even in the sport of Schutzhund all dogs are given the titles when earned of Portection Hound (Schutzhund) Schutzhund I , II , or III once the testing and titles have been earned.


My stance on the title BULLDOG is that it has to be earned not given to each and every dog that someone walks up with and there is only one way to earn such a title and let's face it most owners do not have the intestinal fortitude to see if their dogs deserve this title. So to me for some to call their POS a BULLDOG is a insult.

[Eliman]

I could give a damn what any of you think of me not matter what I say its gonna be wrong

[bamaman]

I live in a area where thier is not a lot of jobs so their are a lot of thieves and murderers. My best friends granddad got murdered and robbed and he was 86 and we buried him Sunday.Its a beautiful life here for a outdoorsman if u can afford it..I always say mutts because it keeps the dog thieves at bay and doesn't attract much attention from anyone..And I never crop my dogs ears so if anyone does luck up and find me its not as obvious.But for a small town atmosphere we rank nationally in violent crime..But just giving a different view of why some may say mutts.Lots of dog thieves here.

[Officially Retired]

Not to change the subject because I agree with the name BULLDOG is title that is earned not given to each and every American Pit Bull Terrier.

Agreed.

To call a GSD hound is not retarded as it may seem in it's country of final completion of standard it's called the Deutsch Schäferhund as most dogs in that country are called hund or pronounced hound as it refers to a dog. Even in the sport of Schutzhund all dogs are given the titles when earned of Portection Hound (Schutzhund) Schutzhund I , II , or III once the testing and titles have been earned.

Interesting. But that is Germany, and you're talking a title. Also, I believe the German word "hund" is more akin to our word, DOG, and is not referring to the "specific kind" of dog, Hound.

Dogs are separated into groups, with hounds being a certain group of dog, in which the APBT does not belong.

My stance on the title BULLDOG is that it has to be earned not given to each and every dog that someone walks up with and there is only one way to earn such a title and let's face it most owners do not have the intestinal fortitude to see if their dogs deserve this title. So to me for some to call their POS a BULLDOG is a insult.

I hear what you're saying, and I agree but disagree.

I agree to call a dog a BULLDOG is to bestow a sense of honor on the animal, but they are still called "bulldogs," regardless.

For example, I may say to you, "How many bulldogs you feeding?", meaning your yard of dogs in total, and you may say, "Twenty."

Now as we go through your yard, you might be saying this one's name, and that one's name, telling me how it's bred, etc. ... and then you may come upon one in particular and say, "Now this one right here's A BULLDOG!", implying he is a cut above the rest as to his proven gameness.

So the word, "Bulldog," is used by dogmen to speak of their dogs in general, but it is also emphasized when we step up to one who's really impressed us.

Jack