CESAR MILAN (The Dog Whisperer)

[Officially Retired]

That has got to make one think is she really worth it! Good thing is your alive all to often people dont think a dog can take someones life!

Oh, she could definitely have taken my life. Like I said, if she would have grabbed the side of my neck, she would not have slipped off, and I would have bled out quickly. (Makes me freeze up thinking about that.)

As far as that being a sign of how "worth it" Kitana was, she just wasn't my dog to shoot. She was also sick at the time, on pups, and her pups were sick because she had bad milk. So I am sure Kitana wasn't feeling well. She was distressed, her pups were distressed, and she saw "me" (the only stranger she wouldn't try to kill) "cross the line" and go toward one of her sick, screaming pups. I am sure it was an overload for her sick, angry-mama brain to see ... so she went for me.

To everything but her owner (and, for a time, me) Kitana was a vicious animal. However, against other dogs she was only a fair-ability dog for her weight. She did break one bitch's backend pretty bad ... but she also had to be picked up to a bitch for running out of gas ... so it wasn't like Kitana was an ace. She was ruthless, but she didn't have very good air. Speaking of air, and truly badass bitches, Wild Red Rose spotted the same bitch who had Kitana picked up several pounds of weight, weathered an early storm, and not only stopped that big bitch, but broke her friggen leg too.

Rosey was a slow starter, but she had TIRELESS STAMINA, INCREDIBLE body strength, and when she got going she was a WALL of a dog who would get you sooner or later, it didn't matter how long it took. People don't realize that Rosey is behind just about every Champion Kitana is behind ... and a whole lot more Champions Kitana is not behind ... from less breedings and less pups too (as Rosey died from cancer at 5). And like Missy, Rosey too was a sweet, sweet dog with people and puppies.

Honestly, I would take Rosey back all-day, every-day, before I would take Kitana.

Jack

[Officially Retired]

I'd bet the farm that man couldn't shush this bitch into submission!
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[EWO]

I think he is good with dogs. Most of the things he does work, but they are 'briefed' to fit into a 30 minute slot. I also believe anything that goes wrong gets a "Cut, take Two" just as Jack said.

Remember on TV we are solving lifelong mysteries in 30 minutes as well. It is TV.

As far as man dogs and man biters we had Fila Brasileiros for a number of years. When they are correct they are the sweetest, 100LB plus lap dogs but to a stranger they are a hell unleashed. They have been turned into a show dog over the years and a lot of that correctness has been lost, but replaced with a defensive driven territorial, front mouth biting fear biter. Sad demise for such a noble creature.

With that said, and a little off topic, at a bite work session I put on a bite suit and took hits from different breeds. The first was a 80lb. Malinois. He hit hard with a lot of speed and the bite felt hard. The next was a Fila. The intensity was incredible, the bite was hard, but the dog used his weight (140lbs) to pull a person in for a re-bite. Then a 40lb. pit bull. The speed over 15 yards was impressive and the bite was phenomenal. The next was with a 90lb. American Bulldog. The speed was close to the pitbull, the bite was close and the impact knocked me off my feet.

Back to the topic, three of the dogs were trained. It was a game. They went from killers to sp

[EWO]

to spastic puppies for a tennis ball. Three of these dogs were trained from puppyhood to adult hood to be this way. They are driven and this drive can be re-directed (which Caesar is really good at). The Fila has a natural bad disposition to strangers and it can be hidden with training and socialization but it can't be removed. The Dog Whisperer show makes one believe all the dogs can be fixed and this is simply not true.

I think he is a good trainer. I enjoy the show. EWO

I think he is good with dogs. Most of the things he does work, but they are 'briefed' to fit into a 30 minute slot. I also believe anything that goes wrong gets a "Cut, take Two" just as Jack said.

Remember on TV we are solving lifelong mysteries in 30 minutes as well. It is TV.

As far as man dogs and man biters we had Fila Brasileiros for a number of years. When they are correct they are the sweetest, 100LB plus lap dogs but to a stranger they are a hell unleashed. They have been turned into a show dog over the years and a lot of that correctness has been lost, but replaced with a defensive driven territorial, front mouth biting fear biter. Sad demise for such a noble creature.

With that said, and a little off topic, at a bite work session I put on a bite suit and took hits from different breeds. The first was a 80lb. Malinois. He hit hard with a lot of speed and the bite felt hard. The next was a Fila. The intensity was incredible, the bite was hard, but the dog used his weight (140lbs) to pull a person in for a re-bite. Then a 40lb. pit bull. The speed over 15 yards was impressive and the bite was phenomenal. The next was with a 90lb. American Bulldog. The speed was close to the pitbull, the bite was close and the impact knocked me off my feet.

Back to the topic, three of the dogs were trained. It was a game. They went from killers to sp

[ragedog10]

Oh, she could definitely have taken my life. Like I said, if she would have grabbed the side of my neck, she would not have slipped off, and I would have bled out quickly. (Makes me freeze up thinking about that.)

As far as that being a sign of how "worth it" Kitana was, she just wasn't my dog to shoot. She was also sick at the time, on pups, and her pups were sick because she had bad milk. So I am sure Kitana wasn't feeling well. She was distressed, her pups were distressed, and she saw "me" (the only stranger she wouldn't try to kill) "cross the line" and go toward one of her sick, screaming pups. I am sure it was an overload for her sick, angry-mama brain to see ... so she went for me.

To everything but her owner (and, for a time, me) Kitana was a vicious animal. However, against other dogs she was only a fair-ability dog for her weight. She did break one bitch's backend pretty bad ... but she also had to be picked up to a bitch for running out of gas ... so it wasn't like Kitana was an ace. She was ruthless, but she didn't have very good air. Speaking of air, and truly badass bitches, Wild Red Rose spotted the same bitch who had Kitana picked up several pounds of weight, weathered an early storm, and not only stopped that big bitch, but broke her friggen leg too.

Rosey was a slow starter, but she had TIRELESS STAMINA, INCREDIBLE body strength, and when she got going she was a WALL of a dog who would get you sooner or later, it didn't matter how long it took. People don't realize that Rosey is behind just about every Champion Kitana is behind ... and a whole lot more Champions Kitana is not behind ... from less breedings and less pups too (as Rosey died from cancer at 5). And like Missy, Rosey too was a sweet, sweet dog with people and puppies.

Honestly, I would take Rosey back all-day, every-day, before I would take Kitana.

Jack

I have one that is a man killer she was fine up until her first litter of pups,after that she would wag her tell and lead one to belive everything is fine then nail you! It cost one uncle the tip of his digit. Now he was warned she is not to be approached for any reason,b.u.t as he himself is great with dog he fall for the wagging tail!
He got lucky as this bitch will hit you up high arm pit or grone.she is great with everyone inside the family but outside of that she's scratching to win!
I happen to like some of the tools ceaser use the shush thing i use to break her focus off other humans it only work till they move or speak! And i also make her lye still around my three year old now will i ever trust her alone with her? Excuse my french but FUCKS NO, I just think that as a owner of a human aggressive dog you should never allow that gaurd down.
When im away from home she is locked in a steel cage like the ones you see at the zoo to transporte lions and bears in! Do i think Ceaser could help her not in a life time thats just wow she is my lil evol priness! Love his show and really like the one when that lab lit into his ass and they said his blue dog or Daddy were the ones that would bite someone!
Do i agree with a pack of pitbulls? Hell NO, b.u.t I have yet to see him hurt by his pitbulls. Yes they get into it with each other as they should it's part of their breed nature!

[ragedog10]

Also did Kitana throw pups like herself (man eaters)?
With our bitch we are very careful as to the temperment of the studs we put her under. Her offspring are very loving all except one, whom I think should have gotten A lot more attention. He can be very ruff at times and very protective when on the chain! Now Ceaser for sure can work with him as

[jawman]

Punishing a pit bull for being "dog-aggressive" is like kicking a cat for going after a mouse.

If a person doesn't want a dog-aggressive dog, then he should not select a combat dog for a pet

so true

[BigEazy]

Yes, he is great with animals. If you would pay attention to details, he states that it's the bully breeds. He feels that it's the bullies that also attack people. They rehab the dogs that are successful during the rehabilitation process.

[Officially Retired]

Also did Kitana throw pups like herself (man eaters)?
With our bitch we are very careful as to the temperment of the studs we put her under. Her offspring are very loving all except one, whom I think should have gotten A lot more attention. He can be very ruff at times and very protective when on the chain! Now Ceaser for sure can work with him as

She did throw a few that were suspicious of strangers, but none that was a straight killer like herself.

My dogs are typically just friendly period (although some Coki dogs would go ballistic after children). Bandana would straight go apeshit at a kid, like it was a dog.

Poncho and all his sisters were absolutely wonderful with children, puppies, young dogs, and all my bitches were totally cool with me (and girlfriends) handling their pups.

Many of my bitches would try to nurse another bitch's pups.

Really don't like super-agressive dogs at all ... and never seen one that I really liked either. With one exception: Stormbringer. He was dangerous if you gave him a bone. Other than that, very nice-tempered animal.

Jack

[Officially Retired]

This Video makes Cesar look like an idiot, IMO.

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