Should Showing EXTREME GAMENESS be Part of DOY Candidacy?

[Officially Retired]

And here's another question:

Should showing EXTREME GAMENESS qualify a dog for DOY Candidacy?


VOTE HERE!

Or forever hold your peace

[S_B]

Being an extremely game dog is what every bulldog should possess. Being extremely game and talented and facing the same adversaries is stepping it up to an elite level.

Extremely game dogs already have an award system in place GIS.

I think to carry the prestigious title of "Dog of the Year" that dog should be the exception to the rule. That dog should do what no other dog within that same calendar year has done. They aren't all going to be GR CH's who beat other GR CH DOY'S like GR CH TITERE. So IMO to truly be considered the DOY they should stand out in front of the rest of the candidates.

S_B

[Nut]

Why not. But I could never vote for showing gameness that I didn't witness.

[S_B]

Why not. But I could never vote for showing gameness that I didn't witness.

Exactly, that is why imo the performance record is what speaks to the quality of a DOY.

[Officially Retired]

Why not. But I could never vote for showing gameness that I didn't witness.

If you're not going to trust others' opinions on gameness, how can you trust their opinions on ability?

If people have produced better, winninger dogs than you ... might their opinions carry more weight than yours?

If 30 people at a huge convention ALL give a dog accolades for its extreme gameness, do you think this carries more weight than "your" opinion on extreme gameness?

Jack

[Officially Retired]

Extremely game dogs already have an award system in place GIS.

I think to carry the prestigious title of "Dog of the Year" that dog should be the exception to the rule. That dog should do what no other dog within that same calendar year has done. They aren't all going to be GR CH's who beat other GR CH DOY'S like GR CH TITERE. So IMO to truly be considered the DOY they should stand out in front of the rest of the candidates.

S_B

High ability dogs also have titles in place (BIS/CH/GR CH) ... yet they get DOY consideration too ... so why shouldn't the exceptionially-game dogs of our sport also have a title for their "over and above" displays of extreme gameness?

Yes, Titere did beat a 6xW/DOY ... but did he belly-crawl, after being a mile behind for 3 hours, losing half his blood supply, on two broken legs?

There are dogs who did these things ... don't you think they deserve Extraordinary Consideration also?

Jack

[Macker]

Jack I never mentioned this in the previous topic for DOY but the way I'd like to see it done is every year we vote amongst ourselves for these three categories and three prizes are given out (usually a small trophy), each year it is the job of the previous years category winner to provide the prize for the new winner but that bits not important.

We have :
The dog of the year award (the outright most awesome DOY)
Gamest dog of the year award (for a dog that showed to be deep deep game, usually dead game)
Kennels of the year (the kennels that showed and achieved a lot within the year)

The last one would be the hardest to come up with I think as a lot won't want to divulge too much and understandably so.

[MISTER]

Gameness is something we all want our dogs to have but many times a dog that shows extreme gameness is on the losing side of the contest. Some do show that gameness and come out the winner and either case are awarded GIS. Doy is reserved to that special animal who shows that ability to not really get put behind and win convincingly in each and every contest such as the Titere's, The Awesome Beasts, the Barracudas. Doy is reserved for those truly special animals who IMO don't have to show extreme gameness

[Officially Retired]

Jack I never mentioned this in the previous topic for DOY but the way I'd like to see it done is every year we vote amongst ourselves for these three categories and three prizes are given out (usually a small trophy), each year it is the job of the previous years category winner to provide the prize for the new winner but that bits not important.

We have :
The dog of the year award (the outright most awesome DOY)
Gamest dog of the year award (for a dog that showed to be deep deep game, usually dead game)
Kennels of the year (the kennels that showed and achieved a lot within the year)

The last one would be the hardest to come up with I think as a lot won't want to divulge too much and understandably so.

Another good idea, Macker.

I will amend the names and suggest we have the following:

Dog of the Year
Game Dog of the Year
Kennel of the Year

There has never been any designation for our gamest-of-game dogs, which (if this is the essence of the breed) is a travesty, really.

I guess this distinction can best be shown (IMO) by the fact that, yeah, Jeep beat Homer, but I would have walk passed Jeep every time my bitch came in heat and bred to Homer

Jack

[Pit Bull Committed]

I vote No but to me, extreme gameness is only one of the factors that could make a dog DOY. Also the title DOY should not be based on only performance but who were the opponents they went up against and maybe even who the person that's behind the dogs that they went up against.