Incredibly good post. This is great stuff.

I see validity in Limey's stance, yet I can't completely agree or move to that side of the table.

My dogs have improved in every aspect after switching from kibble to raw a year ago. My old dogs look younger, all my dogs are more active and feel better, look better, their dental health is insanely better, their skin and coats are immaculate......heck, their breath is 10x better. Water consumption, stool status and ovarall appearance. Their freakin waste line is insanely smaller.

I'll tell you another thing I've noticed. I've got a couple of dogs that look to have still been evolving, in a better condition, a full year after switching. It makes sense since they were on a kibble their entire life. But I have dogs that are still transforming for the better.

Limey, as for your statement of raw appearance, giving me a "false sense of condition", the only thing I can say to that is that kibble gives me a TRUE sense of condition b/c they just do NOT look the same, feel or act the same.

The bottom line for me is just the same as with humans, myself included.
If I feel better, look better, do more than before and my quality of life is better than before, then how in the hell is what I'm doing bad? Doesn't matter to me if a guy gets up every morning and drinks a pint of gasoline. If he gets the aforementioned results.....guess what.......I TOO shall start drinking gasoline.......Hell..it's worth a try.