Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack View Post
That's okay, disagreements in ideology are what create interesting discussions





Boy, we sure do disagree here. Potential can't be physically touched? So, if you have an IQ of 160, and great mathematical aptitude, you're saying I "can't touch this"??? What about with blunt trauma force to the head? That would be a pretty heavy "touch" that would ruin your intellectual potential ...





You are confusing several things. First of all, genetically being pre-disposed to "being Buck" is a whole different ballgame than having his genetic potential ruined. I agree with the fact that, genetically, Buck = Buck, and nothing will change this. But the issue we're talking about goes much deeper than that

Furthermore, there is a difference between Buck simply "not realizing" his genetic potential and someone ruining it. For example, if STP decided not to match Buck, the dog would have therefore "not realized" his potential, but that potential would still be intact. However, if STP decided to 4-dog Buck every weekend ... over and over again ... breaking his teeth off ... breaking his bones ... and (ultimately) breaking Buck's spirit in the process ... then STP would have actually ruined Buck's genetic potential. In other words, Buck would still be Buck ... genetically ... however, potential-wise, physically/mentally Buck be incapable of achieving his potential for greatness anymore.





Again, we totally disagree. Michael Jordan not only had genetic potential, he fully realized it. His older birthdays marked the passing of his window. Had Michale Jordan got shot, or crippled, then YES his genetic potential would have been ruined. That doesn't mean his "genetics" would be altered; it means his POTENTIAL to achieve greatness would have been permanently destroyed. Not realizing potential, and destroying potential, are two different animals ... totally separate from original genetic code.

Jack

love reading EWO and Jack disputes, I tend to side with both of them great posts guys. Don't kill me but potential and reality is two different things. Example between 300BC-300AD Egyptians built pyramids were their genetic makeup different from you or I. The answer is no but they reached their full potential of craftsmanship, can any archaeologist of today explain how they achieved such great craftsmanship with the resources that were available. No, there are hundreds of hypothesis on how ( reason being they didn't have to because their minds are not program to think like they did) but could have they if put into that position maybe. My point is Gr Ch buck genetically is no different from Poncho what makes him different is his DNA. Buck DNA will always be the same but his potential would have been shattered if put into incompetent hands. The reality of the old warrior is that he reached his full abilities because he was nurtured to do so.