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An example of pedigrees is as follows. My wife and I were both raised in Oklahoma. Both sides of our family tree traced her and I both back to two different indian tribes. It is 5 generation on her 6 on me. We decided to send in our Dna to this place that has all the tribes markers for DNA on file. I do not remember the cost but I think it was $300 each. It came back with no indian in our family tree. We were both 100% European. When I told my family they all laughed and didn't get excited about the error. My wife's family was different. They got mad and called us liers and said that place was wrong. Why don't a bunch of you guys get together and see. There is a place that it can be sorted out at. If two people have the two bloodlines and have kept them faily pure. You can see if their connected. One side will be mad the other will say it is a lie. Just warning ahead of time. All those stories may be a lie some may be true. I personally do not care what anyone believes. Mayfield or Boudreaux didn't have a monopoly on all the good dogs. There were good ones all over the place. Boudreaux and his friends beat Mayfield Twice. Did you guys know that? I was at one of the fights. Mayfield was one of the greatest conditioners back then. Did any of you ever wonder why Mayfield would send Pit General to Wimberly to condition. That is the biggest money fight and the most important fight. Yet Mayfield said he had to condition a bitch. Which was for less money and wasn't a big deal. I had a man who was a friend of Mayfield's call me ahead of the Pit General fight and He said. Bet everything you can the fix is on. Now don't go telling people I said the fix is on. I'm not saying the fix is on. I'm just saying I got a call. I decided not to even go after I got that tip. I like it when both sides have an chance. Just in case that was true and it might not be. Randy Fox
Randy i dont know why you dont want to say much about the bind billy dog and i understand you have a side to take and i said that no one can be sure about some dogs like tombstone, but i looked at what evidence there is ,and of course the audio tapes which also give you an insight but its all about opinions , and even with tombstone your say with conviction that gina was on maloneys yard and that there were no pure tudor bitches like baby there , but maybe they were , but who knows if gina was or wasnt , but when weighing up the evidence , and that includes the audio tapes i came to the conclusion that it was more likely that baby was the dam, but anything is possible.But today i listenend to the audio again and i had forgotten who
the man was that was supposed to have had gina on his yard when gina was supposed to be on maloneys yard but i can now tell you that it was bob wallace, and the man who told mayfield this on the audio was the man who campiagned grch 35 for most of his fights put up the forefits and conditioned the dog(no not rushin bill) this man also ,had involement in little bear and sweet pea and was from arkansa and bob was his friend and had told him about gina being on his yard at the time.Mayfield had never heard that before and tells this man that if bob wallace said that then he would believe it, as he would beilive just about anything bob had to say about anything like that , and if bob said something like that he would be confident it was true.Now randy you may be right, but when it comes to blind billy , theres no doubt, but you seem to avoid saying anything that might go against floyd ,but i dont think i have ever seen a post of yours either here or on any forum where you dont try to run mayfield down as you have done in your last post.
RANDY not all of us dropped from the sky yesterday , so to say things like mayfield had wimberly conditon pit general ,and trying
to somehow make it seem like he couldnt condition dogs so he had to have other people condition for him , when you know that don had many people help him condition his dogs, including wimberly and others, and he taught many of them how to condition dogs, but folks seem to forget that dont they randy, and the reason he had guys like wimberly help him condition his dogs , was becasue it was his full time work , mayfield had left the day job he had at a hotel in dallas and dog fighting was his income and don himslef tells about how he would work dogs around the clock with guys like wimberely and others when he had many dogs being conditioned at the same time, so nice try randy better luck next time with the smear job.

Now for sneaky dig number 2 , you say how floyd beat don 2 times and then say I BET YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT , as if mayfield losing a match was a state secret or that don never admitted losing a match when he did , and again don himself talks about his wins and his losses ,hell he lost to stinson and glover and others , so what its no secret randy , his record is out there and its not a perfect one but a darn sight better than most hell maybe even better than yours randy .

Randy you can hate all you like , you have been doing it for years to don, yet you stick up for a known sneak like maloney and just about the world and his brother can see that floyd lied about billy and eli but your avoiding the answer,which aint very game of you is it randy .

Sneaky dig no 3 saying there was a fix in with pit general, ok now i know of a fix in the bullyson sir match but if their was a fix in in favour of general , then you can only be talking about the 2 fights he had , one against fitzwaters duke and freddie jones black bart.Now im not saying you never got a call sayng that , but it doesnt make sense in this instance, but maybe
like many conversations we have , some folks want to make you think and do one think so they tell you another, and maybe if you were told that it was for a reason like that , but now im going to try and explain why a fix seems a riddiculous
statement to make, and you couldnt have chosen a less believable story than that one randy if you tried.

Now we have the beauty of hindsight as we all know about pit general and his fights , but in my expierience if i wanted to put a fix in for a sure thing, then i would firstly make sure that the dog i was matching into had already quit ,as the sir dog had already done a few times
before he was matched against bullyson.Now the duke dog was a very well bred dog , and was never known before to quit or make any bad moves, and duke took his death never taking his eyes off pit general so even though mayfield hoped general would win just like purdue and fitzwater hoped duke might win , when any kind of fix is made your going to make sure a dog isnt game enough to take his death if your looking for a fix .OK now lets get onto possible fix n02
and black bart v pit general, well this again could never have happened or been true , bart was a killing dog and had done just that in his two matches , and don wasnt sure just like against duke what the outcome would be , and bart was another well bred family dog , and he also took his death against general , so randy whether you ever did get a phone call
or not , the talk of a fix is utter hogwash , and rather than come up with things like that , you must have realised that was hogwash , for the reasons i have just explained that you must also have realsied it, if not at the time of this supposed phone call , but certianly today all these years later knowing how the matches went and what dogs they were , but i like how you always finish by saying and it might be true or it might not, lol randy you like to smear without the meat and potatoes added to it , but i say to everyone use your common sense and your nose in life and you wont make to many mistakes and you generally see the bullshit from the truth as with that story.