Quote Originally Posted by BRICKFACE View Post
if I was a MOD I would have locked this thread b4 it turned this ugly...smh

Well, sometimes ugly is necessary.

Sorry about that, if it offends some people, but when a man stands up and screams something's "the best" he should at least have THE FACTS to back it up.

The whole point of this resource, Search Engine, and Statistics Page, is to separate FACTS from "claims" ...

Sonny couldn't stick to the facts.
Again, all you gotta do is plug-in 5xW on the search engine ... then raise the bar to 6xW ... then 7xW ... then 8xW ... and watch those RBJ dogs disappear off the map ... while the Eli, Eli/Carver and a few others remain on there. Again, this database has nearly 40,000 dogs in it now, and the facts are right there to be seen as to WHICH dogs are the baddest of the bad.

All Sonny had to do is 1) roll out that list I asked him for, or 2) admit such a list was puny compared to other crosses, retract his statements, and admit he was wrong.

Yeah, RBJ dogs are a good, solid line ... but they're NOT the killingest.

I was able to admit Sonny was right on another topic last year (which moment he always tries to re-live), but the FACTS are against him here.
Unfortunately, Sonny does not have the ability to a) admit he was wrong or b) shut up.
Instead, he wants to call me a "liar" (when I have listed actual facts and actual dogs), and a "fool" (even though the facts are against him, not me).

I agree, we should be able to have a civil dialogue about dog quality.
Normally, intelligent, honest people just roll-out the facts, compare them, and let the chips fall where they may.

I have been trying to do this all along, produce FACTS for an interesting debate, and Sonny keeps changing the subject to something else.
Until finally he just wants to "go there," call names, and dredge-up that past.
But I am down for that too, as (once again) the facts are with me, not him.

Jack