Quote Originally Posted by No Quarter Kennel View Post
You are correct in your entire reply and I agree, 100% with your reply.

For these dogs to prove this type of gameness is, yes, incredible. But to shift gears, when is enough enough and you should pick that dog up. Personally, call me a softy, but I just can't let my dog get to that point. I really don't think I can. This is a dog that, if he does survive, will remain in hiding for the remainder of his life, which is fine for him, but a hassle for any legal living citizen. Can't share it with anyone really without risk. If you do pick him up, you never knew he was THIS game, but you have a dog with little to fewer handicaps. If you leave him down and he survives this, you KNOW what kind of game he is, but you have a dog with half a head and health issues to manage.

Just rambling and I'm not a psychopath, so no doubt, this type of thing with these dogs makes me question anything done with them in this regard. Then you have the other side of the coin. THESE DOGS WOULD NOT EXIST if this had never been experimented with/trained/schooled/bred for, etc.

AH, the double edged sword cuts both ways so deep.

Very, very well said NQK.

To put a punctuation mark on that, yes, the story of Ozzie's Ch Homer is a hallmark and testimony to the gameness of these dogs ... but was it "really better" to let him go out all the way ... and actually die ... or would it have been BETTER to pick that fabulous little dog UP ... and maybe not have such a great story to tell ... but to have the best little dog you could possibly have STILL ALIVE to breed to for the future

Jack


PS: And speaking of gameness, not only was Ch Hammer an extremely game dog ... who never committed a turn in his life (and neither did his son Poncho) ... and not only did he beat Lou Lewis' Chainsaw in 1:58 to win his own Championship (and I'll leave it up to the reader to figure out how Chainsaw got his name--as that's what Hammer looked like he ran into, after he won) ... but Ch Hammer's brother Jesse (2xW, 1xL) died in the act of crawling-back to his opponent at just over the 2:00 mark.

That is true, 100% gameness ... to die in the act of crawling back.

It can't possibly get any gamer than that