Good post yourself EWO.

And yes, many times the owner loses for his dog, but sometime the overall better dog can lose too.

For example, Ken Norton beat Ali. Then Ali barely beat Norton on a return match.

For whatever reason, Ali just had trouble with Norton ... but yet Norton got devastated by Foreman, who lost to Ali.

Historically, Ali is 10x the fighter Norton ever dreamed to be ... and toyed with fighters who KO'd Norton ... yet, style-wise, Ali just struggled with Norton.

On and on it goes ...

Jack