Buck or Yellow

[STA8541]

Buck was a, great dog, in many ways. The only thing I never really liked was his breeding. What I mean with this is, what was his "true" breeding.

Totally get it. I don't like it when they hang papers on a dog. Never really understood it. Competitive edge, I guess, but...if I'm really confident as a breeder I don't worry so much about what other people might do with "my" recipe. Let's face it, most people don't know what they're doing anyway lol; Vince Lombardi once said I'll give you my playbook, tell you what I'm going to run, & you still won't be able to beat me. Because he believed in his method & knew what he was doing.

You need to know that for a little while I had buck (B4 J. of STP fame took him)

You had hands on the great Buck?! That's fantastic.

just before STP got him (which he saw him that night in fact) and I wasn't keeping him anymore, that event was again told to P.P. and he told ME "great breeding...sire, etc.." as this was now a respectable event that you were able to say it bordered on Championship quality announcements. Then all of a sudden things changed, lol great breeding blah blah blah but the sire was really XYZ instead of ABC.

Lol, isn't it always the way? Salesmen, right? My understanding is the guy that bought him was looking for a "Maloney dog," so Pat obliged him by "providing one." A classic case of why you should never tell a breeder beforehand you want "this" type of dog. If that historical information is incorrect please feel free to correct it!

This still took nothing away from the dog's greatness, in fact STP actually went ahead and said I will only talk about what I saw him do, which in reality he was over his Official W count.

That's completely honorable by STP, I never heard that. More than 7 wins?! Incredible.

If you were someone dead set on papers and breeding he was not the dog for you but he sure was a dog to build a yard with.

Couldn't agree more.

I Prefer to know that you can breed my dog to a telephone pole and you'll get game splinters... But some folks want to know from which forest the tree came from that brought us that pole.

I tend to be more of a "good dogs are where you find em" type, but if you're a breeder I completely understand about wanting to know the true lineage of a dog, because you can't reasonably expect to obtain good, long-term results from your breeding program otherwise (vs. being basically a "one-hit wonder" where the pairing just nicked without much forethought by you & you are incapable of breeding "more dogs like that"). Inbreeding/linebreeding rests on knowing just who the dog's parents are...can't do it any other way! So both sides have a point, I think it just falls more to where you are on the scale: breeder or competitor.

GREAT post by you, thanks so much for sharing. Stuff like that makes being aboard here worthwhile.