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[R2L]

Several studies have examined the benefits of post-exercise maltodextrin supplementation in dogs that perform prolonged exercise. Dogs that were given 1.5-2.0 g carbohydrate/ kg body weight post-exercise in the form of maltodextrins were able to recover, on average, about 50% of pre-exercise glycogen stores within 4 hours of exercise and about 85 % of pre-exercise glycogen within 24 hours, while dogs fed but not supplemented recovered less than 40% of their pre-exercise glycogen after 24-hours."

So by feeding ONLY maltodextrin, you get about 85% pre-exercise glycogen in a 24 hour period. Once the other carbs from the food is processed, you will get 100% glycogen replenishment every day.

Nice post, maltodextrins can be bought as pure or powder or something?

[scratchin dog]

Nice post, maltodextrins can be bought as pure or powder or something?

Maltodextrin is an artificial sweetener that can be found in Splenda and some other sweeteners. It can also be found in ready made products such as K-9 Superfuel. You can save some money and buy it in bulk to make your own after workout drink.

http://www.bulkfoods.com/whole-foods.asp?wholesale=4129

[FrostyPaws]

Taso, we're not talking about humans though. We're talking about dogs. Dog nutrition and human nutrition aren't the same, so you can't think about it the same. A dog's body works at a much more efficient level than a person's. Not to mention that Reynolds runs his own sled dogs, runs these tests on actual working dogs from his own kennel along with other mushers from Alaska.

So, as long as you continue to think about it in human terms, you will continue to try and make the same connections. Those connections aren't the same as dogs and people.

Maltodextrin is actually a complex carbohydrate that is used as an artificial sweetener.

[tasoschatz]

Frosty, I agree that I think in human terms, that is because that is all I know about.
According to my knowledge regarding humans, all the sugars in the body end up in two types of carbs, glucose and fructose. For example sucrose, table sugar, is a combination of both bonded together etc. Same goes for flours etc etc. What I tried to say is, why a dog replenishment is up to 85% within 24 hours with maltodextrin only and potentialy 100% with other carbs added? I know about humans that glucose goes to muscle first, then liver and then in to fat, I know that fructose goes to liver and then fat and I know that if you use fructose only and the liver is "filled up" then no matter if your muscles are empty and no matter what you will feed, fat storage is next. So, having this info in mind I wonder what happens to dogs that makes them in need of two or more carb sources to completely refuel.

[FrostyPaws]

Taking a cue from this thread, I did an experiment on a dog I've been working.

He weighed 40.1 lbs before his work today. He was put on the jenny for 30 minutes today. He had two spells of where he walked for 2 minutes, each time, while on the jenny. At the end of that half hour, he had ran 4.89 miles at an average speed of 9.6mph.

His weight after he cooled down? 38.14 lbs. That is just a half hour work out for this particular dog, and he lost that much water weight. Hopefully that will give people an idea of just how much water a dog can potentially lose if he's a serious working dog. Obviously, lots of dogs don't work that hard so they won't lose that much water, but it is something that everyone should pay extremely close attention to if they want to have the dog running at it's optimum level come show time.

REPLENISH your fluids!

[Officially Retired]

This is great information, thanks for taking the time to measure & post

[R2L]

nice post/eperiment. but is it all water that he lost? aint the dog directly burning his fat too.

[Officially Retired]

Not only fat, but calories in general.

Still, when dogs slobber (as they tend to when they're hot), I am sure the vast majority of the weight they lose is water ... after all a dog is 70% water

[tasoschatz]

Nice info Frosty, that is what I like in nice and cosy forums like this one, exchange of info without egos and bs.
If I may go a bit theoretical, only to express a thought of mine, we know that dogs do not swet, so no water lost for cooling purposes. We know that in humans a gram of glycogen holds 2.5 - 3 gr of water, so for every 4 grams of weight lost 1 gr of glycogen has been used, could this be a way to calculate how much glycogen the dog used and use it for replenishment purposes? Of course I might be completely stupid and make an ass of myself, but it just came to me and decided to express it.

[R2L]

http://nutri-science.net/site/turbolyte