View Poll Results: Is the Formation of a Bond Vital to Success?

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  • Forming a Bond is Vital to Success

    34 62.96%
  • Forming a Bond is an "Intangible" Element, that may (or may not) affect Success

    17 31.48%
  • Forming a Bond has nothing to do with Success

    3 5.56%
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Thread: THE IMPORTANCE OF A BOND BETWEEN MAN & DOG (Yes / No)

  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    I dont know how to quote so I will answer your questions accordingly.


    The humans who cant comprehend and control there emotions are in a mental institute or in Jail. Not sure what that reply had to do with what I said, either you aint reading my post good or you just aint getting what I am trying to say.


    Expert Coaches and athletes, they are talking about HUMANS and NOT dogs/animals. Unless you are comparing a dogs intelligence to that of humans? If so that is so absurd and sounds like one of them AR comprehension right there.


    Yeah maybe I worded it wrong but I am sure the majority of the people that read it understood what I was trying to say. Let me clarify it more for those who did NOT understand it, calling the right weight and feeding good feed is scientific facts that actually help and enhance the dogs physical performance but its still a intangible because it does not mean the dog will win or succeed in his particular task.Get it now?

    Lazy mans bond? If you work 8-12hrs a day 5-6 days a week and you have 20-30 dogs , how much time can you spend bonding with each dog?

    In many cases sleeping with that man are you serious?
    i agree with you dogman, no dog will ever get in bed with me, just to form a bond ?...smh.i'm sure there are better ways to form a bond with a hound without gettn' in bed with it...lol

  2. #42
    Anyone who's never cuddled with their bulldogs don't know what they're missing. Do you HAVE to cuddle with a dog to form a bond? Of course not. But it sure doesn't hurt, not to mention, they're soft and furry and keep your feet warm -- what's not to love?

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    I dont know how to quote so I will answer your questions accordingly.
    I guess I missed this post here, but there are many things that you apparently don't know how to do ... like heed a previous warning for your mouth ... and like figure out a dog's chain weight ... or get the point.

    So let's have at it then.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    The humans who cant comprehend and control there emotions are in a mental institute or in Jail.
    And there are millions of people in jail, and millions of people in mental institutions, and there are BILLIONS who are "free" but who still do not have complete control of their emotions. No one does.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    Not sure what that reply had to do with what I said, either you aint reading my post good or you just aint getting what I am trying to say.
    Since you want to be so insolent, let me clarify that you ain't talkin' English too good pal ... and generally, if you don't understand the language well enough to use its words correctly, then you're probably not going to be able to understand the finer points those words are designed to convey either.

    It is not "I" who don't understand what you're trying to say, it is you who do not understand what I am trying to say.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    Expert Coaches and athletes, they are talking about HUMANS and NOT dogs/animals. Unless you are comparing a dogs intelligence to that of humans? If so that is so absurd and sounds like one of them AR comprehension right there.
    I realize we are talking about dogs, genius. What you can't seem to fathom is the fact dogs do have emotions and they do have intelligence. What you fail to comprehend is that, just because dogs do not have these traits at the level of a human, doesn't mean dogs do not possess any emotions or intelligence at all. They have plenty of both and are among the highest-rated non-human animals.

    Finally, this is the second time you tried to call me an AR person, and you're consistently trying to be a wiseass, getting into name-calling, etc., and you're taking this topic to a lower level, which I will not put up with.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    Yeah maybe I worded it wrong but I am sure the majority of the people that read it understood what I was trying to say. Let me clarify it more for those who did NOT understand it, calling the right weight and feeding good feed is scientific facts that actually help and enhance the dogs physical performance but its still a intangible because it does not mean the dog will win or succeed in his particular task.Get it now?
    You didn't "clarify" anything, actually, you just repeated the same ignorance as before.

    First of all, there is no "science" involved in getting the weight right (if you disagree, then by all means please show me the published research from accredited universities demonstrating the "science" of getting a dog's pit weight right). I am sincere on this: please show me one single body of "science" that has ever been conducted on getting the weight right that universally applies to all dogs or humans--or admit there is no such science.

    Now that we cleared the air of your ignorant usage of the word "science," in point of fact there is actually A MOUNTAIN of science demonstrating the emotions/reactions/intelligence that dogs have. In fact, many of the great foundational HUMAN psychologists, from Pavlov to Skinner, conducted much of their theoretical exercises on DOGS because of their similarity in emotions/reactions to us humans. In fact, have you ever asked yourself why DOGS (not goats, not sheep, not cats, nor any other kind of animal) are used BY POLICE to find drugs, to apprehend criminals, etc.? Because dogs are smart, they can learn, and they ARE LOYAL ... and these traits can be capitalized on by an intelligent fancier ... while they are ignored by the more typical dolt-like fancier.

    ALL of these traits are considered "intangibles" for this reason ... they "are there" but they cannot be quantified exactly.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    Lazy mans bond? If you work 8-12hrs a day 5-6 days a week and you have 20-30 dogs , how much time can you spend bonding with each dog?
    Have you ever considered the possibility that you don't have enough time to adequately care for that many dogs, other than feed and clean-up?



    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    In many cases sleeping with that man are you serious?
    Yes I am.

    And, in point of fact, James Crenshaw and other top dogmen (mind you, that's top dogmen, not wise-ass nobodies ) also slept with their charges ... and there are many top fanciers who will agree that this is one of the best ways to bond with any dog. Absolutely.

    Jack

  4. #44
    When in keep my dog (if it's one) lives inside the house and sleeps in my bed the whole keep.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by skipper View Post
    When in keep my dog (if it's one) lives inside the house and sleeps in my bed the whole keep.
    How did I guess this would be the case?

  6. #46
    LOL, this is also the absolute best way to have constant oversight over your dog. Dogs tend to get insane when there are rest days and they start working on their own, digging or running all day. This won't happen if you have him by your side.

  7. #47
    Some animals do not need anything but food and water lol.
    There have been some dogs that have been down right neglected not just emotionally but I mean really neglected. Parasites, not being fed, etc.Animals that still proved to be great even though they were neglected and their owners idea of bringing one in properly was starving them down! I think its all individual based and dogs on both end of the spectrum can be equally successful. So in return of you not going that extra mile could mean you having to cull what couldve been everything you ever wanted in an animal.

  8. #48
    If you ever had a shy dog you would know the importance of a bond. As i said earlier some dogs are just so confident you only have to feed and properly condtition him. But the bond you can form with a shy dog is amazing. You can take a dog that never would be able to step in the woods with and turn it into a dog that will do everything you ask for. Some people don't bother with shy dogs, but some of the best dogs i've had the pleasure of owning were shy dogs that needed that extra time and effort to turn em around. Let me tell you it was well worth it.

  9. #49
    I dont like to deal with shy dogs simply because of the mind state.
    I like a dog to think he is gods gift to this world.

  10. #50
    And I agree with you on your second statement. However, I like to give all dogs the opportunity to fully bloom out.

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