mixing blood lines

[Officially Retired]

Yeah i should have done it this time around instead i listened to others and put someone elses dog over her i regreted it straight away.
My male is trouble maker game trains hard but short winded he is the sorrell my bitch is trouble trains hard brilliant stamina but untested but comes from 1 of australias best lines of jeep outcrossed to banjo i wanted to do the breeding bad cause id like to see how good my bitch is next year she turns 2 in december but fell victim to the peir pressure hahaha oh well

You see, that right there is why you should do the breeding: your ideas vs. someone else's

You not only are mixing "general bloodlines," but you are selecting particular individuals, you are putting your own unique stamp on that breeding (for better or worse). Your idea is to match your hard-training male to a long-winded bitch, and this may yield far different results from "someone else's" reasons for mating their individual animals.

I am actually a living example of this

When I was going to breed my own Hollingsworth's Miss Trinx to Mason's Ch Hammer (which produced Poncho, Missy, and Ruby), "everyone" told me that I shouldn't do the breeding, because (they said) Ch Hammer "couldn't produce." Yet, when I thought about how game Ch Hammer was, and that he came from an all-game litter (where his brother Jesse 2xW died crawling for #3 at 2:10) ... and then I thought about how game the Hollingsworth dogs were "in general," and the individuals in the Sabre/Lady In Red breeding in particular, I ignored the bad advice "everybody" gave me ... and made the breeding anyway ... based on MY OWN ideas and beliefs ... and, as it turned out, that was the single most important and far-reaching breeding I ever made ... and now, 20+ years later, there are more Champions and winners down from the 3 dogs "I" produced from that breeding than there are from all the breedings "everyone" (who told me not to) have ever done, put together.

So the moral is simply this: do your own thing and make your own choices. Period.



Jack

[Black Hand]

You see, that right there is why you should do the breeding: your ideas vs. someone else's

You not only are mixing "general bloodlines," but you are selecting particular individuals, you are putting your own unique stamp on that breeding (for better or worse). Your idea is to match your hard-training male to a long-winded bitch, and this may yield far different results from "someone else's" reasons for mating their individual animals.

I am actually a living example of this

When I was going to breed my own Hollingsworth's Miss Trinx to Mason's Ch Hammer (which produced Poncho, Missy, and Ruby), "everyone" told me that I shouldn't do the breeding, because (they said) Ch Hammer "couldn't produce." Yet, when I thought about how game Ch Hammer was, and that he came from an all-game litter (where his brother Jesse 2xW died crawling for #3 at 2:10) ... and then I thought about how game the Hollingsworth dogs were "in general," and the individuals in the Sabre/Lady In Red breeding in particular, I ignored the bad advice "everybody" gave me ... and made the breeding anyway ... based on MY OWN ideas and beliefs ... and, as it turned out, that was the single most important and far-reaching breeding I ever made ... and now, 20+ years later, there are more Champions and winners down from the 3 dogs "I" produced from that breeding than there are from all the breedings "everyone" (who told me not to) have ever done, put together.

So the moral is simply this: do your own thing and make your own choices. Period.



Jack

Same miss trinx that produce ch barbarian when bred to bandit?

[Black Hand]

Same miss trinx that produce ch barbarian when bred to bandit?

NVM, I just looked at the ped. Says so right on there.

[Black Hand]

I agree though. Plenty of breeding's just don't pan out within the same blood, let alone out crossing. It could more than likely be the individuals that dont mix and not the family of dogs or vice versa. Maybe you have a particular success not many else have had based on the individuals you used. Selection selection selection.

[CRISIS]

good thread.....

[Officially Retired]

Same miss trinx that produce ch barbarian when bred to bandit?

Yes

[Officially Retired]

good thread.....

[FarmersChoice]

yup the best way to see if a breeding works is to do it otherwise you will never know and dont let someone tell u how to breed your dogs otherwise you shouldnt be breeding them in the first place im not trying to be harsh but i think its true although we all like ppl to admire what we breed it is up to you to make any breeding valid for yourself and or others for that matter

[pig mad]

Its not a matter of them telling me what to breed in the end i do as i want just hear it enough times it starts to leave doubt and coming from big players in the sport makes you wonder if they are right i thought couldnt be right made the post to get confirmation either way..