Clenbuterol

[tasoschatz]

Aerolin (salbutamol) is used to treat similar conditions with clen, for athletic purposes it is used as a weight loss aid, basically all these stuff help through thermogenesis. Mint tea is known for having similar effects with these drugs in humans and this is why only moderate consumption is suggested. I discovered it when I was a heavy smoker and was looking for ways to reduce the smoking effect and bronchodilators in general can help with this, lung damage that is. I haven't try anything of this nature in dogs, actually whenever I speak about drugs and supplements, my comments are always regarding humans and possible aplications in other mamals like dogs. That is also why some times I ask specificaly for experience or data from dogs and not general knowledge when experienced dogmen post in this forum.

[No Quarter Kennel]

I've never used it with dogs. I know some powerlifters - world class level us it.

Knew a world Champ once. Lifted in the 220 wt class. Weighed 248. Would drop that weight in 3 days. Mostly dehydration. Weigh in at 220. Less than 48 hours, with the help of Clan and IV fluids, he would be back to 245-48. Not healthy by any means - but a means to an end for someone elite in something. SO, I do know it's go some incredible anti-inflammatory qualities and it must have incredible water retention qualities as well.

He had on, half dollar sized tablet - round. He would eat a 1/4 of it after weigh in, A 1/4 next morning, lunch and supper - done.
Crazy shit I know - but it's what I know about it.

[Black Hand]

If clen was giving you the bad side then you probably did not increase your water intake enough and didnt take additional sups to combat insomnia. The more you dabble the more you will learn that one product is used to counter another. If you're taking something that will keep you up all night, then you need to supp with something that aids sleep.

and always drink lots and lots of water... carry a milk jug full of it and them cramps will go away same with muscle pumps.

As far as the dogs go though, never used it or tried it. You kind of have to be the Guinea pig for things like this. There has been thousands of ppl doing their own personal human experiments that are documented. With dogs, you have to do the math and record the results yourself but like with most things... if it works u probably wont be telling ppl publicly.

[R2L]

if it works u probably wont be telling ppl publicly.

if i ask a question on this board, i dont expect answers with things that don't work

people successfully use clen on dogs. i couldnt tell you whats the way though. im using it as a medicine. no one would use it as a steroid, but for more air.

[pig mad]

More air?

[Black Hand]

if i ask a question on this board, i dont expect answers with things that don't work

people successfully use clen on dogs. i couldnt tell you whats the way though. im using it as a medicine. no one would use it as a steroid, but for more air.

The margin between working and not working as with most things is relate to dosage. So when I say if someone takes the time to figure out what works, thats what it is in relation to and thats what you will have the most trouble finding. You will have to find the dosage in which will work with the dogs with less cons and more pro's. Which is why I said find the right math. We know what works with people... so you will have to do the mathematics on your own to figure out how it would translate to a dog. Clen is almost always used to cut weight though.

[Black Hand]

Its just pro's and cons. It can help air intake, but water intake is gonna have to be increased to avoid bad muscle cramps that hurt like a mthrfkr

[pig mad]

So if you use more water is it gonna make dog heavier or is the body gonna use it all?

[tasoschatz]

As a human I never had to worry about water intake etc, never had a problem. Insomnia , muscle terror etc would go away after a few days. I guess I did up my water intake but I think because of increased sweating due to higher body temp etc.

[R2L]

i dont notice anything wrong untill now, with the dog(42lbs) using 5 ug every other day.
i do add 200 ml water to his raw food and give him 200 ml water with some stuff in the morning.
im using it for 9 days now and i will give for 5 more days.
his coughing seems to be way less, didnt even hear anything the last 3 days, and i begun training him.
he seems to have a very good natural condition, whether the clen is helping him i will find out when i stop using it.
im also curious if the coughing comes back.
ill post an update in a day or 10.